Charles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1307 posts, RR: 5 Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15032 times:
I was just looking outside my balcony and saw a Qantas A332 pulling in to the spot where the Qantas birds usually sleep (see pics below). I knew they were going to replace the 744 on QF25 (Auckland-LAX) with the A332 but I was under the impression that it would be later this year. Needless to say, this was a very pleasant surprise!
The plane used was VH-EHB, an A330-202 that was delivered to the airline on 23 Jan 2008. Can you say new-plane smell! I have to say it does look neat parked next to the 744s, especially Wanula Dreaming!
Regards,
Charles
Qantas A332 at LAX as QF25 first flight 2 Mar 08
Qantas A332 joins 2 744s at the usual spot where they sleep
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14961 times:
Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 1): Damn! Thats a looooong flight for an A330
Only 170 nm further than SYD-BOM where QF also uses the 332.
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14920 times:
I love the new livery.
How many QF aircraft does LAX see every day? In either direction, because there is a JFK-LAX-SYD flight, no? Which I assume means one going east-bound stops in LAX and one going west-bound does as well. That's at least two QF birds I know of every day at LAX, but there are 3 in that image.
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Brucek From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14892 times:
What's the Y seatting config on the QF A33's? I have never fown in an A32/3, but the older A300's had a config of 2-4-2 or 2-5-2, I can't remember. I would hate to be in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 config for that length of trip, but 2-4-2 would be good.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14864 times:
Quoting YULYMX (Reply 4): Is the plane going to Aukland? or Sydney... Aukland is in the range... sydney ???
as stated by the OP these are replacing 744 on some AKL-LAX returns . IIRC the flight originates in MEL
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 5): That's at least two QF birds I know of every day at LAX, but there are 3 in that image.
Daily AKL-LAX ( mix of A330 and 744 )
Daily MEL-LAX 744ER
Daily ( I think ) BNE-LAX 744
Multiple daily SYD-LAX some with continuation to JFK ( min 2 SYD-LAX daily but some days 3 x )
That makes a minimum of 5 QF a/c at LAX each day if I have it right
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DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14794 times:
Does QF have ETOPS180 or ETOPS207 for the A332? IIRC, with only ETOPS180 they would have to take a more northerly routing than with ETOPS207. Granted, not much, but every additional mile flown is additional fuel burned.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14792 times:
Quoting Brucek (Reply 6): 2-4-2 or 2-5-2, I can't remember. I would hate to be in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 config for that length of trip,
2-5-2 would mean some nasty seat widths on an Airbus narrowbody (save for the 380). 2-4-2 is the standard for regular Y. I've seen some charter carriers (Air Transat) that use 3-3-3, but I doubt QF could get away with that sort of configuration on AKL-LAX.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14782 times:
Quoting Brucek (Reply 6): What's the Y seatting config on the QF A33's? I have never fown in an A32/3, but the older A300's had a config of 2-4-2 or 2-5-2, I can't remember. I would hate to be in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 config for that length of trip, but 2-4-2 would be good.
No A300s or A330s have had 2-5-2 seating. Some charter/leisure carriers have 3-3-3 seating on Airbus widebodies and a few scheduled carriers used 3-3-3 in earlier years, including AF A300s and some AF A310s used on shorthaul routes Europe, mostly domestic flights in France. I can't think of any major scheduled carriers that have anything other than 2-4-2 on Airbus widebodies now.
Most DC-10s and L1011s had 2-5-2 seating although for the first few years of service most were 2-4-2, although some also had cramped 3-4-3 seating including BA's early L1011-1s used within Europe. Some DC-10s and MD-11s also had/have 3-4-3 seating, mostly those operated by charter/leisure carriers, although Finnair has 3-4-3 in the rear cabin of their MD-11s (more spacious 3-4-2 in the forward Y cabin). UA and AA also have 2-5-2 on their 777s, and DL did originally although they later switched to 3-3-3 like most 777 operators (apart from those with tight 10-abreast 3-4-3 like EK, some AF 777-300ERs, and the 777-300ERs now being delivered to KL, and a few others.)
Quoting YULYMX (Reply 4): Is the plane going to Auckland? or Sydney... Aukland
It's AKL-LAX, 5652 nm. SYD-LAX is 6507 nm and I'm sure is well beyond economic A332 range.
Someone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 2782 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14771 times:
Quoting Brucek (Reply 6): What's the Y seatting config on the QF A33's? I have never fown in an A32/3, but the older A300's had a config of 2-4-2 or 2-5-2, I can't remember. I would hate to be in the middle seat of a 2-5-2 config for that length of trip, but 2-4-2 would be good.
330, 340, 310 and 300 has the same cabin width and standard Y config is 2-4-2 on all of them. Although some charter/lcc has a 3-3-3 konfig, but that's equal to torture
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8264 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14733 times:
Quoting MEL (Reply 2): With a view like that I would be on the balcony 24 hours a day.
- Me too!
Quoting MEL (Reply 2): Those QF A330-200s sure look ugly in my opinion
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21495 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14685 times:
Victor009 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14453 times:
I guess the A330 was used because one of the QF 747 is gone tech in DEL, I read a post here that a SIN -MEL bound 747 from europe was diverted to DEL and QF have sent a replacement aircraft with techinicans.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9077 posts, RR: 13 Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14343 times:
Quoting MEL (Reply 2): With a view like that I would be on the balcony 24 hours a day.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7160 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14293 times:
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3036 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14270 times:
Quoting Victor009 (Reply 17): I guess the A330 was used because one of the QF 747 is gone tech in DEL, I read a post here that a SIN -MEL bound 747 from europe was diverted to DEL and QF have sent a replacement aircraft with techinicans.
AA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13975 posts, RR: 59 Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14236 times:
I just checked LAX-AKL for a random date in May of this year, the flight shows as a 744..Now I know Yahoo is not the know all be all, but it's typically accurate. Any idea on the possible switch between the two aircrafts?
Azncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14190 times:
Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 21): I just checked LAX-AKL for a random date in May of this year, the flight shows as a 744..Now I know Yahoo is not the know all be all, but it's typically accurate. Any idea on the possible switch between the two aircrafts?
Qantas stated last year that LAX AKL LAX will be mixed between B744 and A332.
IMHO It's very hard to make an A330/340 look ugly!!
Quoting Victor009 (Reply 17): I guess the A330 was used because one of the QF 747 is gone tech in DEL, I read a post here that a SIN -MEL bound 747 from europe was diverted to DEL and QF have sent a replacement aircraft with techinicans.
This may be the reason for A330 at LAX????
No, The A332s were on Qantas timetable for QF25/26 since at least September last year, My next trip Down Under will be on one of those brand new beauties.
Quetzal From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14169 times:
Quoting Charles79 (Thread starter): The plane used was VH-EHB, an A330-202 that was delivered to the airline on 23 Jan 2008.
VH-EBH.
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25 Zkpilot: yes they do still have the new plane smell... been on one of them recently no crossover at doors3 however so a pain in the butt to get from one aisle
26 Brucek: Thanks to everyone that replied. I couldn't recall what the A300 was, it's been a while. maybe it was the Dc-10 that I recall 2-5-2. Bruce.
27 Brucek: Would it make any sense using the A330 as QF107/108 LAX-JFK-LAX, given that I assume that the B744 is not full? This would mean a schedule change for
28 Viscount724: I think one of the primary reasons for the LAX-JFK-LAX operation is cargo so the 744 seems like the best option.
29 NZ107: How does that cabotage system work? The flight originates from Australia, regardless they could just change the flight number if required, right?
30 Ikramerica: Not to mention that they also would have an issue if the A332 was delayed out of JFK (regular problem in the summer). They would have to hold the 744
31 Quetzal: Also no premium economy on the A330, so pax continuing to JFK would need to go up or down a class.
32 Viscount724: It has to be a continuatioon of a flight that originates/terminates in Australia. Don't think it matters which one. QF international passengers can c
33 Zkpilot: NZ operates 772ER on the same route so no problems really. Not really... QF operates the flight for 2 main reasons: 1) prestige... First Class and J
34 Aussie747: Not only that J and F class loads on some flights are at 100% on these 744 flights. Economy loads are low. No question about it, a 744 is the perfect
35 NZ107: Will it create enough demand? I'd think it'd be easier to codeshare on those routes. Possibly ORD/ATL/DFW rather than LAS/SEA? IMO this could be used
36 AlitaliaMD11: I'd like to hear more about that. I'll be traveling with Qantas to Brisbane in August from JFK and if the A380 was operating MEL-LAX on August 14th I
37 Brucek: Thanks for all the replies to my question. Bruce.
38 Charles79: Thanks everyone for the responses! LOL, I do enjoy my view to say the least! It's very relaxing to work on my laptop while 744s, A346s, and 772s are r
39 Worldsurfer: The flights that i know off the top of my head are the 2 LAX-SYD daily flights(1 continues to JFK and back ) , then LAX-MEL ,LAX-AKL and some days LA
40 Heathrow: I think I would much rather a 744 for that trip, or even a 388 . I'll have to wait a bit on that one though. How many flights does QF have AKL -LAX? i
41 AJ: It's a -203 as well http://www.casa.gov.au/casadata/regs..._results=10&VHin=EBH&Search=Search
42 NZ107: QF 25/26 flies daily, MEL-AKL-LAX. In the past it has been routed SYD-BNE-AKL-LAX and BNE-AKL-LAX (and possibly more that I'm unaware of).
43 Zkpilot: Have to agree with the others...that is a spectacular view! and that part of LAX is close to the beach too if I remember correctly!
44 777STL: Some(all?) days there's a third daily -SYD departure as well. This one departs in the day, and QF12 and QF108 depart late at night.
46 Access-Air: Well all the talk and speculation about why the QF A330 flew the flight 25/26....How about this for a possibility..... Since Qantas had to take a 744
47 Manfredj: If we all contributed, could you set up a web cam for us all to be able to enjoy the view....
48 Timz: The direct route AKL-LAX stays within 180 minutes, assuming the usual alternates are available.
49 PresRDC: I will be on the A330-200 to AKL tomorrow (3/4) sitting in 5K. Should be interesting.
51 KLMD11L: Incorrect, The A330 was scheduled to serve LAX starting March '08 according to QF' timetable, Read my previous post (Reply 23), I'm not a QF employee
52 Zkpilot: It is scheduled and has been for some time...this was just the first one to do so. But thanks for the theory...if it hadn't of been scheduled then it
53 Access-Air: Thanks for setting me straight..... Cheers, Access-Air
54 Ikramerica: Just to be clear, QF has 2 daily LAX-SYD/SYD-LAX flights. Then there are the weekly flights. 149/008 once a week (Thursday). 149/150 once a week (Frid
55 AA767400: Would like to try that 332 on LAX-AKL! AA's 772s also have the same problem. Passengers have to walk to the aft galley and cut through the galley to c
56 N1120A: Not as long as one would think. AKL is significantly closer to LAX than is SYD or MEL It would look fine if the Qantas titles were done in a more att
57 Ikramerica: Except once a week, when it goes SYD-AKL-LAX on Saturday and LAX-SYD-AKL on Sunday. Flights 175/176. (or is it 174/175?)
59 QF175: Ummm try Brisbane... QF175 SYD-BNE-LAX (SAT ONLY) QF176 LAX-BNE-SYD (SUN ONLY) Later this month, BNE-LAX-BNE will increase to daily, which will resul
60 AirNewZealand: And will be operating via AKL once or twice per week to pick up overflow of QF25/26. Not true mate, The aircraft operate LAX-JFK for freight reasons
61 Zkpilot: Not massively faster (772ER is slower than 744). Longer ranged yes, but AKL-LAX is not huge... AKL-SFO or AKL-YVR on the other hand is quite a bit fu
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