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Which Foreign Airlines Hiring American Pilots  
User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7905 times:

Hello

Just curious to know which airlines are hiring american pilots abroad. ie. Where is it easiest to get hired and be sponsered by a visa or work permit ? Im looking at possible solutions for getting hired with 6-700 hours and 50-60 multi turbine. Any word on who is in desperate need abroad ?



Sean

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User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7853 times:

Not sure if desperate but:

Kingfisher
Indigo
Air Deccan



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User currently offline767driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7844 times:

Emirates
Cathay
Korean Air
JAL


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7806 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Im looking at possible solutions for getting hired with 6-700 hours and 50-60 multi turbine. Any word on who is in desperate need abroad ?

To be honest, you'd be hard pressed to even get anyone to look at you. First of all, you'll need a type rating in something like a 320, plus time on type. There are airlines in India, such as Indigo, that have a cadet program. You put up $40,000+ get a type and 300 hours on type. Then you might be offered a job.

Airlines such as CX and SQ have cadet programs but they're not for expats. KAL is hiring FOs but you'll need more time and you pay for your own type rating.

Now if you are a Captain and have a type rating or enough of hours it's no problem.


User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7771 times:

Just looking at a company that does Expat hiring for companies abroad (http://www.wasinc.net/employment.aspx), it looks like you need a few thousand hours and time in type. I'd reccomend looking at some of the various Cadet programs.


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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6199 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7614 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):

King, The major airlines around the world won't give you a sniff with those low hours, maybe Jet Airways cause they have a training type of program. But CX/EK/SQ etc., no offence but way out of your league at this point. Even VN with ATR's requires 2k with a type rating. Check out pilot forms and you can get more info, A.net is not the best place for this info, trust me!

ASSFO



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User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7565 times:

thanks all
not trying to get on with a major overseas, possibly just a regional. Didnt know if regionals are hiring over there as low of mins as they are over here. Just seeing whats available. I obviously understand CX and SQ aren't gonna look at me at all. Even tho the SO position at CX only requires 1000 hours, but from what I heard really takes 2-3 K even to be looked at


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7546 times:

Orient Thai with poor salary and dubious visa/work permit arrangements if you can get MD80 or 747-100/200/300 rating.


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User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7478 times:



Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 7):
Orient Thai with poor salary and dubious visa/work permit arrangements if you can get MD80 or 747-100/200/300 rating.

::
REQUIREMENT
CAPTAIN
- Should have at least 8,000 hours inclusive of 3,000 hours as PIC
FIRST OFFICER
- Should have at least 3,000 hours inclusive a minimum of 1,000 hours in type

Preferential will be given to those applicants for the B747 fleet with wide body commercial jets in international operations.

n ot gonna work


User currently offline767driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7457 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Just curious to know which airlines are hiring american pilots abroad. ie. Where is it easiest to get hired and be sponsered by a visa or work permit ? Im looking at possible solutions for getting hired with 6-700 hours and 50-60 multi turbine. Any word on who is in desperate need abroad ?

Plenty of regionals are hiring with your time. Why not go to a regional for a year or so and get the requirements for the foreign carriers?


User currently offlineA380BWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7385 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 3):
There are airlines in India, such as Indigo, that have a cadet program. You put up $40,000+ get a type and 300 hours on type. Then you might be offered a job.

You dont need to go to India if you have this kind of money. There are plenty of flying schools (you have already passed that stage to go to a flying school) who are offering jobs in a commercial airline if you have attended their program. Best advise would be try regional airlines. I have spoken to some of the pilots on this topic in the past before and this is the best way to get your foot in the door. Try US airways express. Not much of a salary but if this is what you are looking for.


User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

USair express? Do you mean PSA or Piedmont? or Mesa? A lot of airlines fly under the "express" banner.

User currently offlineA380BWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7311 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 11):
USair express? Do you mean PSA or Piedmont? or Mesa? A lot of airlines fly under the "express" banner.

That is correct. Try one of these regionals. They are always looking for the pilots and f.o's as salaries are probably the lowest in the industry and while at work we always see new pilots being hired recently. Good Luck.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7205 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 8):
Preferential will be given to those applicants for the B747 fleet with wide body commercial jets in international operations.

At least when I read pprune a year ago or so, those hours had nothing to do with reality.

Not sure if they smartened up after the Phuket crash and a near miss with a Nok 737-400, unlikely with Orient Thai though...



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User currently offlineSUPRAZACHAIR From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7079 times:



Quoting 767driver (Reply 9):
Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Just curious to know which airlines are hiring american pilots abroad. ie. Where is it easiest to get hired and be sponsered by a visa or work permit ? Im looking at possible solutions for getting hired with 6-700 hours and 50-60 multi turbine. Any word on who is in desperate need abroad ?


Plenty of regionals are hiring with your time. Why not go to a regional for a year or so and get the requirements for the foreign carriers?

Exactly. As has been said, almost all of US regionals are hiring with the time you have or close to it. Foreign airlines have higher minimums and generally require you already possess the type rating.


User currently offlineMTSUATC From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6950 times:

Don't quote me on this but a guy I went to school with is flying 747's for JAL. He's still a FO, I'm not sure how many hours he had probably a couple thousand, I know he did instruct for a while. But he said that the flights to the US have to have an english speaking pilot on board. Whether its the FO or Capt

User currently offlineMTSUATC From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6924 times:

before anyone flames me I know that english is the universal language for aviation, but a lot of japanese pilots dont speak it very well or understand ATC instructions very well.

User currently offlineKingAirMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

So i suppose no one like kingfisher express or anyone else is hiring expats? I really do not want to work for a regional in this country.. Owell, guess i might have to pay my dues...

User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1428 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6769 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 17):
kingfisher express

I doubt it since an airline with that name doesnt exist  Smile

I am telling ya, try your hand in India, not only will you get what you want to do best, but you can get tons of exposure from this country. I would highly recommend it.

Regards
Nitin



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User currently offline767driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6624 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 17):
So i suppose no one like kingfisher express or anyone else is hiring expats? I really do not want to work for a regional in this country.. Owell, guess i might have to pay my dues...

Regionals aren't the best place to work, but they have off valuable experience. You could hop right into a 90 seat jet, work there for a year and move on (assuming the pilot shortage still exists, which I'm sure it will). Go fly the smaller jets which are more forgiving (and fun), gain some experience, then move on to the heavier iron.


User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4476 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

From todays Turkish news; "The number of foreign pilots down to 93, from a high of 220 in 2005 in Turkey." Last year over 600 students in flight schools in Turkey.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6605 times:

Ryanair has some American pilots, though, from what I understand, most of them came to Europe with the USAF, married a local woman and decided to stay in Europe after their enlistment ran out.

Jan


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6587 times:

Not too long ago Netjets Europe was on a hiring binge. They were offering to hire people with zero experience/training and pay for all the trainning. You may want to check that out.

User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6199 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6575 times:



Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):

Your total time is good, but if you can beef up multi time you will have just about every American regional interested in you. The only two that wouldn't give you much of a look would be Republic Group and Horizon. Send me a PM or E-mail for some more information.

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineJgarrido From Guam, joined Mar 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6481 times:



Quoting MTSUATC (Reply 16):
before anyone flames me I know that english is the universal language for aviation, but a lot of japanese pilots dont speak it very well or understand ATC instructions very well.

I'll vouch for that and not just the Japanese but many other foreign airline pilots. They may be very good pilots but their English skills often lack, especially if you need to communicate something "non-standard".

I've heard "round-eyes" flying for JAL/JAZ, ANA and KAL. I don't know the requirement, but I know 2 people who were flying ATRs out here for Cape Air and now fly jets. One fly's for COA the other for ExpressJet.


25 Flying Belgian : I know Jet Airways has a lot of ex-Continental captains (must be TRI/TRE) on the 777 sector. Jet is quite busy with their Indian pilots trainings. FB.
26 Burnsie28 : Ones that I know for sure have: Qantas Korean Air JAL ANA Cathay Pacific (in fact they have a pilot base in San Francisco) Asiana China Airlines Mexic
27 AA767400 : I know 9W hires Americans Pilots. One of AA's 772s First Officer was hired with them, and now flies the 77W. Get to see him at JFK sometimes when he g
28 Gr8Circle : Yeah...I flew on the 9W 773 last year and the captain was an American....
29 FlyUSCG : Care to elaborate or give any other suggestions. pilot a) 600 total, nearly 300 of that multi/turbine received from working at a regional (you can fi
30 CXA330300 : You could try with some of the bush flying/smaller regionals in Southern Africa-perhaps checking with SA Airlink (J41s for example) might do you some
31 Penguinflies : Don't just believe what you see when you read current minimums on a website. Sounds like you should pound the pavement of the internet. An airline may
32 KingAirMan : No , I do not speak a language, but id be very interested in the SA express route if you have anymore info
33 FlyUSCG : Why don't you just work for an American regional? I know people already asked you that but I don't think you answered. You can upgrade in a couple ye
34 KingAirMan : I hear Somalia is quite pleasant this time of year...
35 TheGreatChecko : Go fly in Alaska, you'll definitely pay your dues, but you might like it a bit more. PenAir, ERA, and Frontier Alaska are all hiring. Checko
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