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YYZ: Spotting The Transatlic And India Flights  
User currently offlineCA228 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7391 times:

Hi A-netters,

Here's a photo diary of a recemt visit to YYZ, where I saw a number check-ins and planes for transatlantic and India flights.

At Terminal 3 around 15:30

1) SATA International's A310 flight to Lisbon

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley276.jpg

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SATA's A310 awaiting for return to Lisbon in 3 hours

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2) Aerosvit Ukrainian Airlines to Kiev

Notice that all the pax at check-in look like they are going to India - doesn't look like too many people are going to the Ukraine? This airline must have really good prices to India! Don't know about the wait time in Kiev, though....

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I love the moving image of the 767 on the counter screen

3) Aeroflot Russian Airlines to Moscow in 2.5 hours

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Rather quiet, wonder how full is the flight!

4) KLM check-in for Amsterdam

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The KLM 777 awaits for the turnaround to Amsterdam in 2 hours

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5) Air France A330 to Paris - now boarding

The check-in has closed. KLM and AF share the same check-in but it is all KLM now.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley313.jpg

6) Pakistan International Airlines check-in to Karachi (nonstop flight)

The check-in has closed as flight is to depart in 1 hour, but I wonder how tight is the security at check-in while it's open. CX also shares this counter for their flights to HK. I couldn't see the plane though; must be on the other side that is hidden from view.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley311.jpg

7) New monorail train connecting T3 and T1

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8) Jet Airways check-in to Brussels and Chennai

The security looks tight here. Before able to proceed check-in, these guys are checking the pax passports against the pax list. There are about 4 other security staff walking around the area. One guy is at the front of the line directing traffic to open check-in counters. I suppose these are private security hired by 9W. Definitely more tighter than your typical European airliner, but not as severe as El Al!

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Jet Airways plane awaiting on airbridge for return to India in 3 hours (with AZ and OS). The AZ flight is to depart in 30 minutes at 17:35 and the OS flight around 18:00:

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9) Austrian Airlines check-in to Vienna (flight to depart in 1 hour at 18:00)

I love those red OS uniforms

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley411.jpg

OS 763 loading

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10) Lufthansa check-in to Franfkurt (closing, as only 30 minutes to departure)

I love those LH photos on the boards, especially those of the FA's

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley419.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley462.jpg

11) AC A330 to Vancouver at 18:00

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/changexplorer/YYZspottinggymgreekgreyheatley487.jpg


Question for YYZ A-netters: does anyone know where El Al's check-in is in T3?

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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

I believe that El Al check in at the one end of T-3 in the international section in the morning.


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User currently offlineIlyag From Israel, joined Jan 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7166 times:

I took LY105 a few years back from YYZ, when it was doing a stopover there on its way from LAX to TLV. I was actually coming on AC from MSP and they sent my bags to AC885 going to TLV. LY's check in was at the very end of T3, next to SU. They also took me to the offices behind the check in counters to identify the bags. Overall, T3 seemed to be very nice, even though it was packed with budget travelers at the evening. T1 was still a huge mess back then with lots of construction around it.

User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7016 times:

Different, I suppose!!

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8534 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6827 times:
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Interesting, a bit different to the usual report - I'm not sure it really qualifies as a TR though.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6552 times:



Quoting Ilyag (Reply 2):
T1 was still a huge mess back then with lots of construction around it.

The more things change the more they stay the same.



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User currently onlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3513 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6520 times:

Great pics of the check-in desks at T1 and T3. I like looking at the different types of pax on these flights. KLM, SU and AeroSvit get a lot of CNX pax especially to southeast Asia. There are not enough pics like that on A.net. Great job!

When I flew LY to LAX from YYZ in 2004 their check in was in the 500's (where KLM is) at the farthest end. After check in they direct you down a hallway (accessed to the far left of the #540 check-in desk) with your bag for x-ray and "questioning". They also have armed guards near the check-in desks. This was just for the flight from YYZ to LAX. Imagine what it is like when your checking in for the flight to TLV!

[Edited 2008-02-12 11:42:54]


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User currently offlineCytz_pilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6468 times:

Thanks for the pictures. It's rather impressive how much you can now see of the tarmac from the terminals without even checking in. The last time I flew into or out of YYZ was through boxed-up utilitarian Terminal 2, 3 weeks before it shut its doors. Ugh!

 Smile Cheers!

Chris


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6419 times:



Quoting CA228 (Thread starter):
Don't know about the wait time in Kiev, though....

VV142
dep YYZ 18:50 arr KBP 11:25+1
VV 151
dep KBP 14:40 arr DEL 00:30 +1

so i guess the transit time is 3hrs and 15mins, not too bad

VV152
dep DEL 05:55 arr KBP 09:30
VV141
dep KBP 13:00 arr YYZ 17:00

on the way back, its 3hrs 30mins.



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User currently offlineCa228 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

Thanks everyone for the comments. I knew this report is a bit different than the rest, but I'm glad that people find it interesting. I find it very interesting to see what nationality of people dominate the pax list of international carriers, for example like the Aerosvit and KLM. It gives you an idea about how much the route relies on connection traffic and where the cheap airlines are to go to places like India and the Middle East.

Yes, after some renovations at T3, you can see the tarmac a lot better. They knocked down the wall that was behind the old AF and KLM check-in counters, so that area now faces a window with a fantastic view of the tarmac, and the new corridor now has a row of check-in counters on each side (where the new KLM/AF and PIA/CX check-ins are).
The monorail trains connecting T1 and T3 also gives you a nice view, especially at the train terminal at T3 where you get another view of the tarmac that you couldn't get inside the T3 terminal.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17065 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6089 times:

Nice TR, if you can call it a TR

The pics are really good.


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



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User currently offlineCakentennis From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

Did you get an idea of how many O&D passengers boarded the 9W flight for BRU? It might tell us if 9W is becoming popular in Belgium.

User currently offlineCA228 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5982 times:



Quoting CA228 (Thread starter):

I passed by the 9W check-in area several times over a one hour period, and I didn't notice anyone who is not of Indian descent, so on that particular flight I would say a large majority would have been going to straight to India (unlike SQ's JFK-FRA flights where there is a good number of transatlantic-only pax). Unless I'm not looking at the right places, 9W's fares to Brussels is not that attractive out of YYZ. Their fares to India are very competitive though. Even cheaper than LH.


User currently offlineDFWMzuri From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5975 times:



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
Interesting, a bit different to the usual report - I'm not sure it really qualifies as a TR though.

Different, yes, but I really enjoyed it.

[quote=JAGflyer,reply=6]Great pics of the check-in desks at T1 and T3. I like looking at the different types of pax on these flights. KLM, SU and AeroSvit get a lot of CNX pax especially to southeast Asia. There are not enough pics like that on A.net. Great job!

Nothing like people watching at a good International airport.


User currently offlineCakentennis From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5921 times:



Quoting CA228 (Reply 12):
I passed by the 9W check-in area several times over a one hour period, and I didn't notice anyone who is not of Indian descent, so on that particular flight I would say a large majority would have been going to straight to India (unlike SQ's JFK-FRA flights where there is a good number of transatlantic-only pax). Unless I'm not looking at the right places, 9W's fares to Brussels is not that attractive out of YYZ. Their fares to India are very competitive though. Even cheaper than LH.

Poop! , and they want to be an internationally recognized brand !  Yeah sure


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5277 times:



Quoting CA228 (Reply 12):
Unless I'm not looking at the right places, 9W's fares to Brussels is not that attractive out of YYZ. Their fares to India are very competitive though. Even cheaper than LH.

I think 9W uses BRU as a hub for a number of flights from N.America to India.....so their main objective is to pick up passengers who will fly thru' to India....

Quoting Cakentennis (Reply 14):
Poop! , and they want to be an internationally recognized brand !

And they most certainly are well on the way....what's your point...?


User currently offlineCakentennis From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5159 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 15):

And they most certainly are well on the way....what's your point...?

Isn't it obvious? If 9W would care to advertise their product rather than relying on the customer base they have set up in India, they could actually be a well known brand out of BRU and could give carriers like CO and AA a run for their money.


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