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19 Years Ago Today: Eastern Airlines Strike  
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7791 times:

19 years ago today, majority of Eastern Airlines employees went on strike. Long picketing lines were formed in front of the traveling public at airports nationwide. As a result, thousands of flights were cancelled and Eastern lost millions of dollars in revenue. Few days later, Eastern filed for bankruptcy. I don't have the exact numbers but Eastern's number of daily flights were reduced dramatically. Picture this: from 2,300 daily flights to 50 daily flights. Indeed, 19 years ago today was a day to remember in aviation history.


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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2240 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7719 times:

Seems long enough ago that the name could be used again without undue influence.


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7693 times:



Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 1):
Seems long enough ago that the name could be used again without undue influence.

Let's leave the Eastern name to rest in peace. Let us not put it in the way of Pan American World Airways. I don't want to see the Golden Falcon on the side of a Railroad Box Car. >.<


User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5488 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7631 times:

Ah, yes, we could erect a monument to Charlie Bryan. He won!


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2355 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7592 times:

We were raped!

— Frank Borman, after capitulating to Charlie Bryan's wage demands


User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7545 times:



Quoting September11 (Thread starter):
19 years ago today, majority of Eastern Airlines employees went on strike. Long picketing lines were formed in front of the traveling public at airports nationwide. As a result, thousands of flights were cancelled and Eastern lost millions of dollars in revenue. Few days later, Eastern filed for bankruptcy. I don't have the exact numbers but Eastern's number of daily flights were reduced dramatically. Picture this: from 2,300 daily flights to 50 daily flights. Indeed, 19 years ago today was a day to remember in aviation history.

And providing the ultimate example of the stupidity of unions. There is no doubt, and no blame that can be shifted from Charlie Bryan's outfit for the death of this carrier. Ultimatly this is what dooms the American aviation scene. The unions have the power to kill the carriers - and the stupidity to do so.

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 3):
Ah, yes, we could erect a monument to Charlie Bryan. He won!

For those of you who don't know the story Eastern was going bankrupt. The unions refused to deal, so Eastern actually opened their books to show that they would in fact go bust if the pilots didn't back off their demands. Charlie Bryan used it to argue that Eastern could not possibly survive a strike, and strengthened his demands. Obviously the carrier then crashed and burned.

Any time you run your business as a war, instead of in partnership, bad things are inevitable.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17339 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7488 times:



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 3):
Ah, yes, we could erect a monument to Charlie Bryan. He won!

So where are y'all employed now? Where the heck is Charlie Bryan now?



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User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Hopefully rotting in hell.


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User currently offlineN801NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7381 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
Where the heck is Charlie Bryan now?

About the time of US Airways Chapter 11 and near death experience, The Washington Post ran a story about the various labor battles at Eastern. IIRC, the article stated that he was doing landscaping work, possibly in Florida.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7365 times:



Quoting Prinair (Reply 7):
Hopefully rotting in hell

Would that be with Frnak Lorenzo?


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6384 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7360 times:

Gee, thanks for reminding me of this day  Yeah sure

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 9):
Would that be with Frnak Lorenzo?

Lorenzo wouldn't even have been in the picture if not for Bryan



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7339 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):

Lorenzo wouldn't even have been in the picture if not for Bryan

IIRC EAL was sold to TAC in 1986. From that point on, assets were stripped from EAL and transferred to CAL. I don't think your time line is correct, unless you are trying to tell me that Frank had nothing but the best intentions for EAL, it's shareholders and employees?????

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...940DE0D6113FF932A15751C0A96E948260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=3


User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 691 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7192 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
IIRC EAL was sold to TAC in 1986. From that point on, assets were stripped from EAL and transferred to CAL. I don't think your time line is correct, unless you are trying to tell me that Frank had nothing but the best intentions for EAL, it's shareholders and employees?????

You are correct, Phil, but it was what happened priro to that which ultimately sealed the fate of the company.

Charlie Bryan was the cause. Bryan refused to deal with Borman, and then Borman had to sell to someone, unfortunately for us it was Frank Lorenzo. If Bryan had been more flexible, the airline would have survived on its own.

Lorenzo was a known quantity. It was known that he would basically dismantle the company and destroy the employees careers, yet Bryan refused to budge with Borman.


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2355 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7117 times:



Quoting Kellmark (Reply 12):
Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
IIRC EAL was sold to TAC in 1986. From that point on, assets were stripped from EAL and transferred to CAL. I don't think your time line is correct, unless you are trying to tell me that Frank had nothing but the best intentions for EAL, it's shareholders and employees?????

You are correct, Phil, but it was what happened priro to that which ultimately sealed the fate of the company.

Charlie Bryan was the cause. Bryan refused to deal with Borman, and then Borman had to sell to someone, unfortunately for us it was Frank Lorenzo. If Bryan had been more flexible, the airline would have survived on its own.

Lorenzo was a known quantity. It was known that he would basically dismantle the company and destroy the employees careers, yet Bryan refused to budge with Borman.

Overly simplistic and narrow in scope. The demise of Eastern had many reasons on all sides of the business. If Bryan's demands brought down the airline, then it was time for the airline to go. Not giving in, would only have prolonged the compounded problems it faced. But, Charlie makes a good target and story, even if everyone helped kill it.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6343 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7094 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
So where are y'all employed now?

Frank Borman bought the Ford dealership in LRU, where he spent the '90s, although I hear he's since moved to Tucson. He had some nice toys in his hangar, including a T-28 Trojan and a Mitsubishi MU-2...I used to put fuel in them. Too bad my lineboy days were over when he acquired his P-51...  Sad



Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7094 times:

i remember i was stuck in FLL for spring break and to find a ticket with DL to get back to YUL  Smile

User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3225 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

Yes I remember that Eastern strike, my parnets were planning a holiday in the US for that year but with Eastern out of the picture, they booked on BW and AA instead. On the day the strike took place an Eastern 727-200 remained stranded in POS as the crew left Trinidad on an AA flight to MIA. The poor plane sat quietly for about 3 months until the local authorities threatened to seize it for unpaid landing fees. Soon afterwards the fees were quietly paid and the plane flown away. That was thus the last Eastern plane in POS after some 16 years of service.

Sadly, 2 years later the combined action of the strike, high oil prices and the travel downturn due to the first Gulf War served to kill this great icon of American aviation.

TrinToCan.



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