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Air Transat Emer Landing At FLL Due To Bad Food  
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12845 times:

It's a good thing they didn't need the services of either Robert Hays or Doug McClure  wink 

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americ...03/05/emergency.landing/index.html

An Air Transat flight made an emergency landing last night at FLL due to..........possible food poisoning that made at least eight passengers ill.

Tom at MSY


"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12800 times:

geez how long is a PUJ-YEG flight??? Like 6+ hours????

I wonder who will pay for these canadian health care bill from the hospital?


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12775 times:

They Probably got off the flight and went to the hospital...

A Hospital?!...What is it?!

It's a big building with patients but thats not important right now...


I hope everyone is ok.


User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12739 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 2):
They Probably got off the flight and went to the hospital...

A Hospital?!...What is it?!

It's a big building with patients but thats not important right now...

Legendary. That made my day BlueElephant.  Smile


User currently offlineFLLspoter From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12707 times:

Was Leaving FLL this morning at 705 and she was still at the H-Gates.

Joe



FLL justs gets better and better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12709 times:

Food? On an airplane? Served by the airline? What's that?  rotfl 

"Captain, how soon until we can land? We've got to get these people to a hospital"

"Well, I can't tell".

"You can tell me, I'm a doctor"

"Well, not for another two hours".

"You can't tell me for another two hours?"

Okay, honestly, how many of you out there did NOT run through the entire movie "Airplane!" when you saw just tht TITLE of this thread?



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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12615 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
Okay, honestly, how many of you out there did NOT run through the entire movie "Airplane!" when you saw just tht TITLE of this thread?

I certainly did! Especially since we were watching it the other day at work. Nothing like watching Airplane! at the airport.


User currently offlineSafeFlyer From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12497 times:

Airplane jokes aside, I wonder if their food poisoning would haven been from what they had in the Dominican or on the actual aircraft. I mean, seems to me as a lot more than 8 passengers would have gotten sick from the airline's food had it been contaminated. Plus, a lot of food poisoning cases take at least 12-24 hours before symptoms start showing up. Not that I'm defending TS... for anyone who's ever seen the kind of sandwiches or wraps they serve to Economy passengers.  Wink

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12479 times:

PUJ-YEG has a flying time of 7:35.

According to CTV News, "the eight sick passengers, six adults and two children, apparently became ill after a meal they all ate prior to the flight."

Source:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ess_080305/20080305?hub=TopStories



Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineSafeFlyer From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 627 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12404 times:

The article says they kept both passengers and crew on the plane after the quarantine was lifted because the runway was undergoing maintenance until 4:45?!? Wouldn't the crew time out way before then? Something fishy here. As far as I know, you can't keep passengers on an aircraft without a crew.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12321 times:

Wonder if it was the choice between the chicken or the fish that created the problem?

The crew wasn't affected because had the "lasagna"....  Wink


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12320 times:

According to the TS website, the plane left PUJ at 2118 local, arrived in FLL at 2318 local, left FLL at 0426 local and arrived in YEG at 0824 local. Total duty time was 13:06.

Absolute duty limitation is 17 hours, but they are compensateda accordingly if they exceed 15 hours.



Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineAuroraLives From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12298 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 1):
I wonder who will pay for these canadian health care bill from the hospital?

The vast majority of travellers would have trip medical insurance (usually less than $1/day) to cover exactly this type of scenario. Anyone would be completely silly to travel without it.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8691 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12270 times:



Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 9):
Something fishy here

I thnk they could have at least taken off. Runway mx my arse. They could have let them take off.

Kinghunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12271 times:



Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 7):
Airplane jokes aside, I wonder if their food poisoning would haven been from what they had in the Dominican or on the actual aircraft. I mean, seems to me as a lot more than 8 passengers would have gotten sick from the airline's food had it been contaminated. Plus, a lot of food poisoning cases take at least 12-24 hours before symptoms start showing up. Not that I'm defending TS... for anyone who's ever seen the kind of sandwiches or wraps they serve to Economy passengers

And they landed 1,5 hours after taking off - that's not enough to take off, serve food, get ill, and divert me thinks.



I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12249 times:

Most have been very sick not to suck it up to YEG... bathroom must have been Busy  Smile

User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12154 times:



Quoting Matt (Reply 11):

But the crew were active since morning when they left YEG... they do a back and forth??


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12119 times:

Oh no, the crew that left PUJ had a layover there. It would be too long of a flight to do a turnaround. However, from YYZ, YUL, YHZ, for example, the crews do turnarounds. From Western Canada, they have layovers.


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12092 times:



Quoting Matt (Reply 17):

??? they fly here once a week from YEG that would be a long layover.... are you sure it is around 6.5 hours going down

a bit longer than YUL-ZIH


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12053 times:

They don't stay in PUJ for a whole week! There are flights from other Western Canadian cities to PUJ on other days of the week. Plus, deadheads to other cities are often involved (to POP, for ex.) to minimise down time for crews. Believe me, crew scheduling thinks of all those things. That is not to say, however, that 3- or 4-day layovers never happen. They do.

I myself worked as a flight attendant for two Canadian charter airlines (including TS) and I once had a one week layover in ATH. Those are very, very rare, however.

And yes I am sure that the YEG-PUJ is not a turnaround. With a 6:35 flight down, 1:00 hour on the ground and 7:30 flight back, it's too long and too close. Although the MAX time (in case of delays) is 17 hours, no pairings are scheduled to exceed 13 hours, if I remember correctly.



Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3408 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12053 times:

I wonder how long it'll be until this becomes fodder for a late night talk show monologue???


"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12040 times:

YUL-ZIH is 6:00 and back is 4:55. Plus 1:30 on the ground in ZIH. This is probably a turnaround flight...


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12014 times:

Thank you matt... Yes from YUL all winter flight to the South with Transat from YUL are up and down... even west coast of mexico... and margarita in venezuela

User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11981 times:



Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):
But the crew were active

No, I don't know the details, something to do with a YYC-YEG double stop which adds time on the clock. There was a PUJ layover so they were fresh as daisies when they started off.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11953 times:

TS airline pairings (and other charter airlines' as well...) are very imaginative. I remember a few years ago doing parings out of Western Canada that looked something like this (it's not a REAL example).

Mon. YVR-PUJ (night in PUJ)
Tue. Deadhead to POP (night in POP)
Wed. POP-YYC (arrive Thu.)
Thu. in YYC (night in YYC)
Fri. Deadhead to YXE (night in YXE)
Sat. YXE-YQR-PUJ (2 nights in PUJ)
Sun. (in PUJ)
Mon. PUJ-YVR (arrive Sun.)

Something like that...



Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
25 ReidYYZ : Disregard reply 23 i thought I was posting after #16, but got distracted before i hit the 'preview the post' (Civ-Av moves way faster than Tech/Ops, w
26 AirEMS : Just my .02 I wonder if maybe one or two pax got sick and then some other pax who had seen this got sick too... we call them sypatheic vomiters again
27 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : It is quite amazing how the D.R. has turned into a tropical getaway from western Canada. My wife is from Alberta and she points out how Hawaii was th
28 Matt : You're absolutely right. I used to be that it was mostly people from Eastern Canada (and they still do...), but now people from Western Canada are tr
29 Viscount724 : One news reports says the 8 passengers were all members of the same family and had eaten at the same restaurant a few hours before the flight.
30 Scotland1979 : Yeah, I read the news this morning about this. Eight of them are members of family. It has to do what they ate or/and drank. It was not airborne that
31 SLCUT2777 : I think it is one of those geographical anomalies when I point out to people that POP and PUJ in the D.R. are actually an hour closer to SLC than OGG
32 Matt : You're absolutely right... YYC-HNL: 3126 mi YYC-POP: 3193 mi As for FLL, it's still a very popular destination among Canadians, especially from Ontar
33 Viscount724 : On a nonstop basis, YEG-PUJ (2950 nm) is 163 nm further than YEG-HNL (2787 nm). From YVR, PUJ is roughly 900 nm further than HNL.
34 YULYMX : From YYC or YEG to HNL is alot longer because of winds... compare to YYC to POP-PUJ
35 Viscount724 : Westbound winds PUJ-YEG could probably be just about as strong as westbound winds YEG-HNL depending on time of year and where the jetstreams are. TS
36 YULYMX : true but YEG HNL is more WSW and seems directly into the wind... maybe it is my perception...PUJ-YEG seem more NWN less west wind???
37 ArcrftLvr : I certainly did. Damn you OPNLguy, you stole my line. I wonder if the dialogue between Ops and the FAs went something like this: Dr. Rumack: Elaine,
38 Post contains links Scotland1979 : Recently - got info about possible slipped poison in one of them before they left for Canada http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ess_080305/2008030
39 YULYMX : That is bad... Even in vacations you got to watch your drink
40 NeilYYZ : I'd say especially on vacations. I'd hate to get sick in a Caribbean country. If they were indeed poisoned I think they were lucky to get their treat
41 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Pretty much the Mountain Time Zone is the break even point for distance to the D.R. resorts and Hawaii resorts from North America. Actually a number
42 SLCUT2777 : Especially a country like the D.R. Cuba would be MUCH safer for medical care I wouldn't want the bill that Health Canada would likely refuse to pay.
43 NeilYYZ : Hopefully they had enough foresight to take out travelers insurance.
44 A380US :
45 SLCUT2777 : I would even advise any Canadian flying over U.S. airspace to do so. In this instance a flight from the D.R. or any other Caribbean "Fun-In-The-Sun"
46 NeilYYZ : I get travelers insurance through the bank anytime I'm leaving the country for a period of 48 hours or longer. It just makes good sense and isn't all
47 Threepoint : They likely had adequate out-of-province traveler's medical insurance, but it's just as likely they had neglected to buy the USA option. For non-Canu
48 Threepoint : Don't rule out Cuba's top-notch medical reputation, as pointed out in the following excerpt.
49 YULYMX : Wouldn't you be cover by a Gold Card or the insurance plan at your work place....it all depends on your plan...[Edited 2008-03-05 18:42:13]
50 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : I have no financial confidence whatsoever in the U.S. medical system. It has been effectively destroyed by the greedy Trial Lawyers (& their Bull$hit
51 NeilYYZ : I don't do Cuba. Although if it were an absolute emergency I guess I'd go there to save my hide. Nor do I. Had a friend get sick down there without i
52 SLCUT2777 : I think you can get this coverage at all Sears stores in Canada. At least the couple Michael Moore had depicted in Sicko was getting it there. Let's
53 NeilYYZ : I've honestly never heard of that. I guess you might be able to if you were to have a Sears credit card. Don't forget that Sicko really made the Cana
54 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : My wife (raised in Alberta/lived 7 years in B.C.) has so informed me. Politicians except the fringe-left NDP try to get away with as spending as litt
55 Post contains images Plunaaircanada : A few days ago my mother was waiting on ER from 8:30 am and was finally attended at 1:30
56 Threepoint : That means little when we read this with no supporting context. How many other patients were there at the time, and what was the nature of your mothe
57 AR385 : I remember an AR flight in the late 80's LIM-LAX during the Cholera epidemic in South America that started in Peru. The flight got catered in LIM and
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