Atlantaflyboy From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 11 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6945 times:
I have some questions regarding the DL 767-300ER "Mini"-Coach cabins.
On the "standard" (Non ex Gulf-Air) DL 763's there has been for some time (since the removal of the 2nd Biz Elite section) 6 rows of BE (36 seats) followed by a galley and then a mini-coach cabin. This mini cabin has always shown as rows 16-19 on ac left, 16-18 in the center section and 15-19 on ac right (Version "A" - see aircraft types & layouts section of the DL website).
I am now seeing 2 deviations to this seating plan and am curious as to why?
Version "B" shows rows 16-19 aircraft left, 16-19 in the center section and 15-19 aircraft right. This is the seating plan for my upcoming LHR-JFK flight (DL4) on Oct 24th).
Out of curiosity I was checking fares for a possible trip I might take to Cairo in August (DL10 out bound 8/12 and DL9 return on 8/23) On both flights they show the mini cabin in a Version "C" configuration rows 14-19 aircraft left, 16-19 in the center and 15-19 aircraft right. Interestingly this version also only has 34 BE seats (Row 1 C/E no longer exist).
Why such differences? Which seat plan is to become the new standard? Is one of the Version B-C options the one w/ the new slimline seats in Economy and the LCD monitors and possibly a candidate for the winglets?
I have included dates and flight #'s as reference so others may see exactly the differences that I speak of.
In Flight rest for the pilots if I remember right. DALPAs contract or the FAA require flights over a certain number of hours to have fully flat beds for th pilots to sleep in. DL yanked 1C/E out a few aircraft and installed a "cabin." There was a trip report at one point with a shot of the exterior of the cabin in it.
as for the coach seats I have no real idea. Could it be for Flight Attendant rest areas? How does DL handle F/A rest areas on board the 767s anyway?
Atlantaflyboy From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6529 times:
Well y'all have just about answered all my questions! I am assuming then that the addition of seats 14ab on the ac w/ 34Biz Elite seats are a result of eliminating the coat closet aft of 6ab perhaps? what rows does DL typically use for FA crew rest on the 763's?
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2694 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6079 times:
Anyone else think that DL could make an absolute killing turning that mini-Y cabin into Premium Y? Especially on their longer routes. Offer 2-3-2 still, but take out a row and offer lots more legroom, TVs (won't hurt weight because it'd only be that small section, and you'd be taking a row out), greater recline and footrests. They could charge a nice premium to make up for the lost seats, and offer the Y+ for an upgrade fee based on segment length. The highest level DL elites could get space available upgrades as well. With a product like that, and the amount of metal heading internationally everyday, DL could finally have a competitive Y product in the 763s. Does anybody know if DL has considered an approach like this? Or do they prefer to have just a C/Y config?
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5881 times:
When I flew NCE-JFK at Christmas, I was booked in 17G which on the seatmap was the second row of Y, but on board it was the third row - very odd. It was the same on the way back. I'm going again in April but this time 16G is the second row of Y (the first row is very uncomfortable, no legroom and the table is in the armrest making the seat narrower.
I don't know if I got the "upgraded" version of the 763 last time - the TV on the bulkhead had no red colouring so all the movies showed green (and very fuzzy). I thought they were putting in new TV's (hehe - "new" - have they not heard of AVOD PTV ?)
Pope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3562 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5): Anyone else think that DL could make an absolute killing turning that mini-Y cabin into Premium Y?
It could also be used as ploy to increase the mileage redemption requirement or yield on BizE travel. For example once you have a Y+ cabin, you could require someone purchase a Y+ fare in order to upgrade using miles or vouchers into BizE. Alternatively create a double upgrade redemption level requiring more miles to go from Y to BizE.