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The Many CO 737-800 Configuratons!  
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

I was just checking out the seat maps on the CO website and I was surprised to see FIVE different configurations!

-800,
-800 (16/141),
-800 (16/144),
-800 with (18/132) Mid-Cabin Lavatory,
-800 (20/132) with Mid-Cabin Lavatory,

Does CO plan to standardize these at all?

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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16858 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2879 times:



Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
I was just checking out the seat maps on the CO website and I was surprised to see FIVE different configurations!

-800,
-800 (16/141),
-800 (16/144),
-800 with (18/132) Mid-Cabin Lavatory,
-800 (20/132) with Mid-Cabin Lavatory,

Does CO plan to standardize these at a

You made a mistake, the four configurations are;

14/141
16/141
18/132
20/132

All of CO's 737-800s and 737-900s are getting two extra First Class seats, the reconfiguration is in process which means some are in the new configurations (16/141, 20/132) and some are still in the old configuration (14/141, 18/132).

All 14/141 aircraft are being converted into 16/141 and all 18/132 737-800s (Mid-cabin Lavs) are being converted into 20/132 configuration, all new deliveries will be in the new configurations.



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2872 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
You made a mistake, the four configurations are;

14/141
16/141
18/132
20/132

Well, I just cut and pasted the configurations from the CO website. I think there was a post on here recently about how messed up parts of the CO website are...

Anyway, thanks for the info!


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16858 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Try this:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Continental_Airlines/information.php



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

Yeah, I thought about seatguru, but I figured, "hey, why not just check it out directly on the CO website?"  Smile

User currently onlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2638 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 1):
20/132

Does CO always have four FAs anyway on the B738, so that management doesn't want to keep 18/132 so only three FAs are required? This seems to be a hot topic with US carriers...

Are the mid-cabin lavs staying for good on the B738?



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2601 times:



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
Does CO always have four FAs anyway on the B738, so that management doesn't want to keep 18/132 so only three FAs are required? This seems to be a hot topic with US carriers...

For ease of scheduling and swapping, CO has 4 on all 738s. This means they can swap with any other 738 or even 739 without issues. And it does happen. I was scheduled to be on a 738 in the old config of 18/132 and when I got on it was a 739, which had the same 18F at the time, so since I was upgraded I didn't notice until half way through the flight when I looked at the safety card.  Smile



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User currently offlineCoolGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 414 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

How easy or hard is it to move the mid cabin lav? Is that something closer to removing a row of seats and adding more legroom or more like a D check?

User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Moving a mid-cabin lav takes a considerable amount of effort. The mid-cabin lav aircraft are to stay as they are highly desirable on transcontinental flights. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised to see CO add additional mid-cabin lav 738's.

User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

14/141 no longer exists, most are 16/141.

Of those that aren't, a bunch are 20/132, with the midlav. The rest (new deliveries) are 16/144, with the 2 lavs at the back reconfigured to allow for an additional 3-seat unit. The rest of the standard 737-800s will be converted to this arrangement (16/144), as well as those with the midlav (20/135).

Quoting Spyderz (Reply 8):
In fact, I wouldn't be suprised to see CO add additional mid-cabin lav 738's.

This was abandoned around 2004. No additional ships will get the midlav except for the new -900ER deliveries. However, the existing ships are in no danger of being reconfigured as there are a number of transcontinental routes that routinely sell all 20 F seats on the plane, and so the layout is valuable.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

If anything you might CO go 20/138 in the future with the 3 lav birds, and compress the first few rows of Y to make it work. They compressed the first few rows of the 735 to reconfigure them recently, dropping pitch to 30" or so. Blech.


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User currently offlineCOalways From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

737-900s have 5 FAs

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6):
For ease of scheduling and swapping, CO has 4 on all 738s. This means they can swap with any other 738 or even 739 without issues

The 737-900s have 5 FAs


User currently offlineJEdward From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2237 times:



Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
-800,
-800 (16/141),
-800 (16/144),
-800 with (18/132) Mid-Cabin Lavatory,
-800 (20/132) with Mid-Cabin Lavatory,

Yes that appears to be correct.

CO would currently appear to operate 5 different configurations of the 738 with 5 different seat maps.

I don't think everyone here caught the subtle change...



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User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

738 14/141: No longer exists

738 16/141: 2 lavs in the rear on left side

738 16/144: 2 lavs in the rear one on each side + reconfigured aft galley allow for the 3 extra main cabin seats. There are 2 additional F/A jumpseats at door 2R. The majority of CO738s will have this configuration.

738 18/132: No longer exists

738 20/132: Mid-cabin lavatory

All have winglets and all are staffed with 4 F/As


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