6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 22 Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4399 times:
OK, I have a question.
I have heard about two A320 operators (which will remain unnamed), that both operate the same A320 with the same seat capacity.
When they operate on the same sector, one takes a slight payload hit, but not the other?
Can anyone explain this?
Also, which engines on the A320 provide longer range?
And finally, I notice that there are multiple 'variants' on the A320... 320-216, 320-232 etc.
what's the difference, if any, between them?
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4378 times:
The IAE unquestionably offers more range, but at an emissions penalty.
The variants are based on offered engine. A -23x is an IAE powered bird while a -21x is CFM.
Some carriers may not operate the full MTOW plane.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
Quoting 6thfreedom (Thread starter): I have heard about two A320 operators (which will remain unnamed)
Are you referring to AF and BA ?
Air France and British Airways are the only two operators of the earliest variant of the A320 : the A320-100.
Actually, I should say "were" the operators as BA recently retired from service all its -100.
AF is still operating 13 of them. Except from the only "visible" difference (they have no winglets), they have a reduced payload and MTOW compared to the -200.
Quoting 6thfreedom (Thread starter): And finally, I notice that there are multiple 'variants' on the A320... 320-216, 320-232
Those are not A320 "variant". On all the Airbus the two last digits indicate the type of engine used on the aircraft, while with Boeing, they are the "customer code" of the airline operator :
A320-111 = A320-100 with CFM56-5A1
A320-232 = A320-200 with IAEV 2527-A5
A330-202 = A330-200 with CF6-80E1A4
A330-322 = A330-300 with PW4168
Etc ....
For Boeing :
-28 is the code for Air France (ex : B747-428)
-36 is for British Airways
-30 is for Lufthansa
etc...
TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3694 posts, RR: 34 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
The MTOW of the aircraft is a customer option. The aircraft may be physically identical but different operators use different MTOW. Higher MTOW cost more when you buy the aircraft, but the biggest reason is landing fees. Airport landing fees and parking charges are all set by MTOW.
For example on the A319, the MTOW is 75 tons, but on a BA A319 it is 64 tons.
The B757 MTOW is over 125 tons but on BA it is 99.7tons.
This can save a fortune on landing fees, but may occasionally mean a take off weight problem.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4039 times:
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 5):
Not all airports. quite a number charge on a per passenger basis...
PFC fees are generally set apart from landing fees
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