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Have Any A340s Been Scrapped?  
User currently offlineTriniA340 From Trinidad And Tobago, joined Nov 2005, 95 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

I have heard a rumor that A340-300 MSN 016 [Ex-BWIA] has been scrapped, though I don't know if this is true. The last I know is that it was stored in Arizona.
Anyone know for sure what is the fate of this airliner?? I have seen this aircraft flying in to land at POS almost every other day for over two years. Would be sad if it was, in fact, parted out....


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States, joined Jul 2005, 8010 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8738 times:

There was the Ethiad A346 that was w/o at TLS and I think that IB A340 that overran may have been scrapped, but i could be wrong.


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User currently offlineRJ777 From United States, joined Dec 2000, 900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

I don't think the Etihad one had any actual miles on it!
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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 10707 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8689 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
There was the Ethiad A346 that was w/o at TLS and I think that IB A340 that overran may have been scrapped, but i could be wrong.

Don't think they've decided whether to repair or write off the IB 346 involved in the UIO incident. Apart from that one, there have been 4 A340 hull losses.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...024%&cat=%1&sorteer=datekey&page=1

I don't thinkany others have been scrapped after simply being retired but I'm not positive. Can't recall any other A.net threads referring to A340s being parted out.

User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8694 times:

Didn't SN (Sabena) have a 340 frame years ago lose all its gear landing in BRU, or was it salvageable?


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User currently offlineMrBrightSide From United States, joined Jan 2008, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8694 times:

There are five A340 birds that are no longer serving - e.g. written off:

AF A342 - consumed by fire at CDG back in 1993 or 1994.
AF A343 - overshot at YYZ in 2005
EY A346 - crashed in barrier during FT test prior to delivery, 2007
IB A346 - overshot at UIO in 2007
UL A343 - terrorist attack by Tamilian Tigers in 2001

Sadly, these five birds will never see the skies again, but probably ending up as cans of Coca Cola  Sad


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User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6309 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8177 times:



Quoting MrBrightSide (Reply 5):
AF A342 - consumed by fire at CDG back in 1993 or 1994.
AF A343 - overshot at YYZ in 2005
EY A346 - crashed in barrier during FT test prior to delivery, 2007
IB A346 - overshot at UIO in 2007
UL A343 - terrorist attack by Tamilian Tigers in 2001

- Air France A40-300 F-GNIA destroyed by fire on the ground at CDG in Jan. 1994

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- Srilankan A340-300 4R-ADD destroyed by terrorist atack on the ground at CMB in July 2001

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- Air France A340-300 F-GLZQ crash landed at YYZ in Aug. 2005

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- Iberia A30-600 EC-JOH crash landed at UIO n Nov 2007

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- Airbus A340-600 F-WWJC Destroyed on the ground at TLS during an engine test in Nov. 2007, prior its delivery to Ethiad
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The fate of the two last A346 mentionned above is not yet defined : Broken up or back to service ?

Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 4):
Didn't SN (Sabena) have a 340 frame years ago lose all its gear landing in BRU, or was it salvageable?

This incident occured in August 1998 to SABENA's A340-200 OO-SCW : The right hand maingear collapsed after a normal touchdown on Runway 25L at BRU, ending a flight from JFK. The aircraft slewed left off the runway. It was repaired and went back to service. The aircraft is now F-OHLP with Royal Jordanian.

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User currently offlineGorgos From Greece, joined Dec 2007, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

How was the tail clipped in that sabena 340??

User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6309 posts, RR: 64
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8073 times:

Quoting Gorgos (Reply 7):
How was the tail clipped in that sabena 340??

The answer is in the comment under the picture ....

This is what happens when the right main gear of a big aircraft collapses on landing, ejects backwards and takes half of the right horizontal tailplane with it, while the rest of the airplane does a 180° turn on the ground until it comes to a stop.

[Edited 2008-03-09 08:36:34]

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States, joined Oct 2003, 8387 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8065 times:



Quoting Gorgos (Reply 7):
How was the tail clipped in that sabena 340??

Just read the text with the picture


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User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 1917 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8065 times:



Quoting Gorgos (Reply 7):
How was the tail clipped in that sabena 340??

I seem to remember that the landing gear or a piece of it bounced on the tarmac and hit the horizontal stabilizer...

I might be confusing with another incident though.


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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom (England), joined Oct 2001, 3889 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8050 times:



Quoting Gorgos (Reply 7):
How was the tail clipped in that sabena 340??

Isn't that from where the landing gear departed the a/c and hit the rear stab ?. It's quite a common place to get damaged by landing gear vacating the airframe. Similar damage also occured to the BA 777 too.

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IIRC this airframe is owned by LH now who are using it as a spares source prior to it being scrapped.

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User currently offlineGorgos From Greece, joined Dec 2007, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8032 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Just read the text with the picture

Thanks  blush 

User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6309 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8000 times:



Quoting TriniA340 (Thread starter):
I have heard a rumor that A340-300 MSN 016 [Ex-BWIA] has been scrapped, though I don't know if this is true. The last I know is that it was stored in Arizona.
Anyone know for sure what is the fate of this airliner??

BWIA's A343 9Y-JIL is to be leased to IBERIA.

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7991 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 13):

Source?

User currently offlineSCCutler From United States, joined Jan 2000, 4006 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

Not a bad record for the design, is it?

I truly hate to see pictures of aircraft as burnt hulks, and yet, in the back of my mind I recall that, while it is a burnt hulk, it is a burnt hulk of a plane which was essentially intact when it came to rest, and through the skill and training of airline professionals on-board, the frightened passengers watched the plane burn- from a safe distance!

Think about that next time you want to complain because your flight attendant isn't "hot enough" or is a little slow in bringing you your can of Orangina.

Finally, it is interesting to me how the exact same airframe can look sort of goofy and ungainly (A340), and yet be (arguably) the most graceful-appearing airliner (A330).

/7500


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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7924 times:



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 15):
Finally, it is interesting to me how the exact same airframe can look sort of goofy and ungainly (A340), and yet be (arguably) the most graceful-appearing airliner (A330).

Well it's all a matter of opinion. I personally find the A330 and A340 equally beautiful aircraft and I never tire of seeing the LH and AF Airbuses here in Atlanta!

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2482 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7799 times:



Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
IIRC this airframe is owned by LH now who are using it as a spares source prior to it being scrapped.

Airfleets has it as stored @ Goodyear


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User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6309 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7674 times:



Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
IIRC this airframe is owned by LH now who are using it as a spares source prior to it being scrapped.

The aircraft is owned by Debis Air-Finance.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 13):
BWIA's A343 9Y-JIL is to be leased to IBERIA.



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 14):
Source?

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A340/016.html

User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 1044 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5317 times:



Quoting MrBrightSide (Reply 5):
Sadly, these five birds will never see the skies again, but probably ending up as cans of Coca Cola

Sad. Maybe they will fly again but being served on the plane instead.
Blue


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 18424 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5276 times:



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 15):
Not a bad record for the design, is it?

Yes, it is, actually, for a new modern plane, but only 2 were due to flying related accidents, so then, no, it's not.  Smile


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User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1613 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5131 times:



Quoting SCCutler (Reply 15):
I truly hate to see pictures of aircraft as burnt hulks, and yet, in the back of my mind I recall that, while it is a burnt hulk, it is a burnt hulk of a plane which was essentially intact when it came to rest, and through the skill and training of airline professionals on-board, the frightened passengers watched the plane burn- from a safe distance!

I can think of at least three examples where intact aircraft came to a safe stop, but subsequent fires burned many or all the passengers due (in part) to faulty evacuation procedures:


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User currently offlineJe89_w From United States, joined Mar 2002, 2000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5023 times:



Quoting Swiftski (Reply 17):

Airfleets has it as stored @ Goodyear

Yep, I saw it parked at Goodyear about a month ago. It's all white and still has 4 engines but is missing its right winglet. It's parked next to one of BA's A320-100s, which looks like it's going to be scrapped as well.

User currently offlineJawed From United States, joined Sep 2006, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4697 times:
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It had about 150 feet on it  Smile Not quite a mile though  Smile

Quoting RJ777 (Reply 2):
I don't think the Etihad one had any actual miles on it!



User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1613 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4308 times:



Quoting RJ777 (Reply 2):
I don't think the Etihad one had any actual miles on it!

Sure did. But nobody denies it still had that new plane smell.


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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 1878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

MrBrightSide:
There is a bright side. They are coming back as Budweiser cans.


Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
26 Post contains images Ikramerica: that means that there might be a part of an A340 flying as a beer can in the catering cart of an NW DC9! Wrap your mind around that!
27 RB211TriStar: Sorry, not quite smart enough to quote the photo... but WOW. That's the first time I've seen a pic that showed the extent of the damage. Is that even
28 Post contains links Jdevora: From Latest On IB A346 At Quito? (by Kaitak Feb 18 2008 in Civil Aviation) looks like they are still thinking about it. Cheers JD
29 FlySSC: The idea that aircraft may have a "second life" as cans (Coke, Bud, or whatever you want) is fun ... but this is just another "legend". Aircraft are
30 Ztagged: So where does all of that scrap metal go?
31 Post contains images Leezyjet: Ah ok, cool. Somone told me just the other day it was LH, oh well !!. A lot of it is used to make circuit boards in everything from mobile phones to
32 N471WN: I just saw MSN 016 at Goodyear last week and it is clearly NOT being scraped but rather I saw them making skin modifications to the area under the win
33 Post contains links Viscount724: This 2007 article on aircraft recycling may be of interest. http://www.aels.nl/sites/aels/user_files/NewsArticles/ATEMArticle.pdf
34 Breiz: That might be of use to US Aw. which is desperate to find A340s these days.
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