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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10034 times:

At home , we put down Bleach and we brush with a toilet brush,. we wipe the seats with strong disinfectant wipes which can be thrown away. No aeroplane toilet as ever been as sparkling as my own potty. Who cleans them and with that?? That coloured water that ops up in between flushes is useless for cleaning.

[Edited 2008-03-09 06:27:07]

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 9976 times:
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Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):

From what I have seen and experienced: hey use a normal sponge or so with a little water and whipe over every surface and thats it basically! So, NEVER touch anything in there and NEVER barefeet in there!!! And wash your hands properly afterwards... Its pretty disgusting  scared   vomit   yuck 

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User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9862 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
NEVER barefeet in there

I cringe when i see some unsuspecting passenger walk around bare foot, or even socks only. I can just picture Gus Grissome wandering around with the DNA finding 'blue light'. It would light up the cabin. I'm including spit, piss, vomit, snot-the whole bodily fluid family.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9855 times:
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Quoting ReidYYZ (Reply 2):
I can just picture Gus Grissome wandering around with the DNA finding 'blue light'. It would light up the cabin. I'm including spit, piss, vomit, snot-the whole bodily fluid family.

Isnt his name Gil Grissom? Big grin

Oh yeah and you will find a lot of weird things there on the ground, walls, everywhere....

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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9860 times:

Dad had to retrieve a gun from a DC-8 lav in YWG once. RCMP wouldn't do it. Bare-handed. Ugghh.....


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9852 times:
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Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 4):
Dad had to retrieve a gun from a DC-8 lav in YWG once. RCMP wouldn't do it. Bare-handed. Ugghh.....

Disgusting! your poor dad! I hope he had a chance to wash his hands afterwards!!!!

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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9828 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 4):
Dad had to retrieve a gun from a DC-8 lav in YWG once. RCMP wouldn't do it. Bare-handed. Ugghh.....

Disgusting! your poor dad! I hope he had a chance to wash his hands afterwards!!!!

Pretty sure he didn't get near Mom until he washed ...  rotfl 



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9800 times:
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Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 6):
Pretty sure he didn't get near Mom until he washed ... rotfl

 rotfl   rotfl   bigthumbsup 

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9788 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
At home , we put down Bleach and we brush with a toilet brush

Bleach is a corrosive and not allowed to be used on aircraft. Also, you may only use items and products approved by the manufactre. You can not just go down to the store and buy any off the shelf cleaners.

[Edited 2008-03-09 10:33:18]


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User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9545 times:

I had heard (so I don't know how true it is) that the cleaners take a mop and start with the ceiling and mop it, then the sink, then the toilet and finally the floor when cleaning the can.
But I also know never to go in their barefoot or drink any of the water from the sink. Always ask a F/A for a bottle of water, they will understand.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9430 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
At home , we put down Bleach and we brush with a toilet brush,. we wipe the seats with strong disinfectant wipes which can be thrown away. No aeroplane toilet as ever been as sparkling as my own potty. Who cleans them and with that?? That coloured water that ops up in between flushes is useless for cleaning.

Your "potty" doesn't have 100 to 300 strangers using it everyday.

Your "potty" isn't cleaned by someone who doesn't know how the use a sit down "potty".

Your "potty" is not made out of stainless steel which is easy to disinfect but doesn't look clean even when they are new.

Lastly the "blue water" is not used for cleaning, it is used to control odor and to break down the solids so the holding tank will drain completely.


User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1131 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9426 times:



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 4):
Dad had to retrieve a gun from a DC-8 lav in YWG once. RCMP wouldn't do it. Bare-handed. Ugghh.....

I had to recover some mopes keys  yuck  no tip..no thank you no good...the captain said after tha he would tell the next person that dropped something in the toilet that the item was flushed out of the aircraft.

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 9):
had heard (so I don't know how true it is) that the cleaners take a mop and start with the ceiling and mop it, then the sink, then the toilet and finally the floor when cleaning the can.

Never seen that,I was a cleaner a long time ago and we used some sort of commercial disinfectant from a squirt bottle,standard glass cleaner on the mirror,I personally never saw anything too bad but I did hear of some guys dealing with "explosions"

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 9):
But I also know never to go in their barefoot or drink any of the water from the sink. Always ask a F/A for a bottle of water, they will understand

words to live by Big grin

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 8):
Bleach is a corrosive and not allowed to be used on aircraft. Also, you may only use items and products approved by the manufactre. You can not just go down to the store and buy any off the shelf cleaners.

on some service checks we dump crushed ice and vinegar into the toilet,another operation I worked for used a product called Honey Bee


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9398 times:

Back when I did it we would slide on some gloves, go around all the little holes and pry out the garbage, empty out the garbage can, grab a cleaning rag and a spray bottle of cleaner (approved cleaner, still kills bacteria and whatnot), start around the door and walls, do around the sink, down around the floor, around the toilet, the toilet lid, the seat, and finally inside it. Rag was then placed in a plastic bag, and gloves thrown in with the garbage. Then we would restock the soap, paper, etc. as needed, and sometimes spray some air freshener if needed.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9377 times:



Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 11):
On some service checks we dump crushed ice and vinegar into the toilet,another operation I worked for used a product called Honey Bee

Very standard and right out of most AMM's. The ice cleans the impellers (much like you do with your garbage disposal) and cleans the plumbing. The vinegar breaks down the waste material (again not a bad idea for your disposal)



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9319 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
we wipe the seats with strong disinfectant wipes which can be thrown away.

So do I. Seats, lids, sink, mirrors, handles, tidy the floor. Restock the paper (tissues, t.p., paper towels). I bring my own wipes (Costco sized at that).

Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
No aeroplane toilet as ever been as sparkling as my own potty.

Maybe not as clean as yours, but clean enough and sparkly enough. Not bad for a few hundred or more uses during a flight.

Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
Who cleans them

On my flights, I do.

I feel at least the lavs should be nice, clean and as fresh as they can. I also bring a citrus spray, makes them smell 100% better.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9232 times:



Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 9):
Always ask a F/A for a bottle of water, they will understand.

Only if they have plenty (usually only enought for business/first + crew, the rest is from the onboard water)... otherwise you are being one of the "precious" people who drinks bottled water to be fashionable when tap water (in most western countries at least) is completely safe and fine.

As for the toilets...they are pretty gross! During a flight at least a few airlines I know use anti-septic spray which is also an odour remover... usually sink, taps and toilet seat are cleaned, many crew will also clean other things like the door latch etc (which is probably the dirtiest part of the lav since there are many disgusting people who don't wash their hands!)



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User currently offlineAV8orWALK From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 9159 times:

I fly WN the most, so I know that Southwest FA's seems to prefer the "opened coffee package hung on the coat hook" to rid the lav of the foul smell. It seems to work. The coffee is packaged in it's own filter, that just so happens to emit a much more tolerable aroma than the alternative.

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User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8992 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 15):
Only if they have plenty (usually only enought for business/first + crew, the rest is from the onboard water)... otherwise you are being one of the "precious" people who drinks bottled water to be fashionable when tap water (in most western countries at least) is completely safe and fine.

Being as I have done the sterilization of the aircraft potable water a few times and know what is involved, i have made it policy to tell my friends and loved ones not to drink water/tea/coffee (the boilers on aircraft don't actually boil the water) on any flight unless they know that the water came out of a bottle and not the aircraft tanks.

That is all I will say.

pAnmAn.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8942 times:
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Quoting Panman (Reply 17):

Being as I have done the sterilization of the aircraft potable water a few times and know what is involved, i have made it policy to tell my friends and loved ones not to drink water/tea/coffee (the boilers on aircraft don't actually boil the water) on any flight unless they know that the water came out of a bottle and not the aircraft tanks.

I dont drink coffee or tea on board! Only soft drinks like water, coke etc etc! And I know why  Wink

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User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8938 times:

Singapore Airlines girls do a full toilet clean in flight mid way through, and they do a really good job of it! I was very impressed to learn this. They put on those thick gloves and all, and go for it!

nice work!  Smile


User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2872 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8883 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 18):
Only soft drinks like water

Sparkling water? :P


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8874 times:
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Quoting Elite (Reply 20):
Sparkling water? :P

Oh yeah, not the one from the lavatory or the galley Big grin Or was is sparkling wine I am drinking  duck 

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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8728 times:

At NWA, ours toilets/counter/floor are cleaned with a disinfectant, and "regular" glass cleaner for the mirror.

Quoting AV8orWALK (Reply 16):
so I know that Southwest FA's seems to prefer the "opened coffee package hung on the coat hook" to rid the lav of the foul smell.

I think this is fairly universal... You can usually find a coffee packet in most NWA lavs as well....



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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8651 times:



Quoting Ansett767 (Reply 19):
Singapore Airlines girls do a full toilet clean in flight mid way through, and they do a really good job of it! I was very impressed to learn this. They put on those thick gloves and all, and go for it!

nice work!

Most airlines do this.

Quoting Panman (Reply 17):

Being as I have done the sterilization of the aircraft potable water a few times and know what is involved, i have made it policy to tell my friends and loved ones not to drink water/tea/coffee (the boilers on aircraft don't actually boil the water) on any flight unless they know that the water came out of a bottle and not the aircraft tanks.

That is all I will say.

pAnmAn.

Be ultra-cautious if you want - but there are literally hundreds of thousands of passengers and crew, myself included, who step off the tens of thousands of flights a day, having freely partaken of aircraft tea, coffee, and tank water, and are completely unaffected by these naughty little bugs that the more paranoid amongst us live in fear of.



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8076 times:



Quoting NWAESC (Reply 22):
You can usually find a coffee packet in most NWA lavs as well....

Coffee packets (ground coffee) are a great way to mask/get rid of odors.



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25 Post contains images WILCO737 : Oh yeah! but some passenger look a little puzzled when they see the coffee packet in the lavatory WILCO737 (MD11F)
26 BrianDromey : How do you guys know that the facilities the bottled water came from are any better than the potable water tanks? It never ceases to amaze me how so m
27 Falstaff : I have been in there with only my socks on. I know there is funk, but it doesn't worry me. I haven't got sick yet and the way exposure to germs makes
28 Post contains images Ansett767 : Really? Not just a 'wipe down'? As on LH, QF, UA, at the end of the flight the toilets aren't the nicest and smell a bit and I think they aren't clen
29 Post contains images QualityDr : Yes, it's Gil Grissom. Gus Grissom (sic) was an astronaut. Unfortunately, he was one of our early fatalities in space flight. RIP... M
30 USPIT10L : UA probably does it more than any other airline. I've never seen a coffee bag hanging in a lav at DL. We pretty much do what CanadianNorth says he do
31 Absimilliard : I also clean lavs and we use a soap called "ZEP". Its pretty much anti everything you can think of. Bacteria, smells, virus, dirt, etc. The stuff is p
32 NASBWI : All i know about cleaning the lav, is that FLIGHT ATTENDANTS dont do it !!! nor should they
33 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : has anyone on here noticed the smell of AA's lavs as of late? HORRIBLE and the blue water is now green water. Its unbearable at times...
34 Surfrider1978 : Heres one for you folks. Back in my ramper days I worked at LGB for startup (now defunct) WinAir. We had a fleet of 732's half of which had a flap and
35 Post contains images Dc10s2hnl : I have heard some humorous horror stories about this from the local Eagle and old-time Wings West folks... especially when there were inexperienced c
36 CEO@AFG : Have you had coffee/tea on a plane? Several times Have you walked barefeet into the lavatory cubicle? Yes, again several times Ever drink the water fr
37 Zkpilot : Well said Brian... in fact for our American friends here, you may be surprised to know that the bottled water industry in the USA is very loosely reg
38 MD11Engineer : Your FDad never heard about the trick using two plastic bin liners, one inside the other, pulled up to the shoulder, like a long rubber glove? Don't
39 USPIT10L : Yeah, I'm familiar with the "donut" system. DL's 733s had them (we don't get them here in PIT). Yes, I have had crap fly down on me from a lav, not o
40 NWAESC : On some A/C, there's a clip (defacto coat hanger) on the door. That's almost always where you'll find it.Other times, they, well, get creative. When
41 StarGuy : The busiest times for lav usage seem to be after the first meal service and after the second meal service before landing. We make sure that the lavs a
42 DALMD88 : The cleaning is done by the very low payed Aramark employees at my station. I don't think many are fluent in english. Most are pretty nice and do a de
43 Connies4ever : This would have been about 1962/63/64 or so. Don't know what kind of bin liners were in use way back then. Almost tge Dark Ages !
44 Connies4ever : This would have been circa 1962-64, almost the Dark Ages. Not sure what type of bin liners were in use then.
45 LXA340 : Well during the flight they are responsible for it. They at least need to make sure that enough towels, toilet paper etc is available. It depends on
46 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : The only bathroom flight attendants clean is the one they lock off on long haul flights for FA use only! I dont blame them people are ABSOLUTE pigs in
47 ESGG : On the other hand.. When nature calls, midflight over the atlantic, you don´t ask qustions. You use whatever suitable place you have for that purpose
48 CanadianNorth : Is that the clear liquid stuff, smells kinda like fish? I think we used to use that stuff as well before switching to a purple cleaner. Worked the sa
49 USPIT10L : Yeah, DL's cabin service has slipped just a bit since 2003-2005, IMHO. We now send two people to clean during the turnarounds, and the turnover at DG
50 Post contains images Bartonsayswhat : i see alot of block it off and let someone from the ground do it. "oh hey, ops just called. go get the big mess bin"
51 Mayor : When I worked in SHV with DL, we had several DC-9 flights that we had to clean. We had one guy that was squeaky clean all the time and his only cleani
52 Mayor : removed for double post[Edited 2008-03-12 08:54:59]
53 Turbulenc3 : So people have mentioned about aircrafts potable water and not to drink it. Ive read a few comments about bugs etc but why exactly is this, is there s
54 Post contains images WILCO737 : I dont knoy what exactly it is, but I heard from seveal people who got sick and blamed it on the water! And it doesnt taste very good if you drink it
55 StarGuy : Believe me if anything like that happened, the toilet would be locked off and wouldn't be used for the rest of the flight. The F/As wouldn't have to
56 Post contains images MD80fanatic : Don't hear much of this logic anymore. If I read anti-bacterial on anything, I avoid it like the plague.
57 Stickers : I always use a wipe to open the door. Saw a scientific study once on toilet door handles. You would be amazed at just how much "stuff" gets deposited
58 Absimilliard : I would not call ZEP a fish smell, but it has a particular odor! We used 2 types of the stuff. One was "pre diluted", green, had a strong smell and wa
59 Post contains links PWM2TXLHopper : Quoting Turbulenc3 (Reply 53): So people have mentioned about aircrafts potable water and not to drink it. Ive read a few comments about bugs etc but
60 StarGuy : I really wouldn't worry about the water on aircraft, thousands of aircraft carrying hundreds of thousands of passengers everyday all around the world,
61 Mayor : When I worked at SLC, they sent a sample of the potable water to a testing lab, once a week.
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