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XJ To Open Small MX Base At MLI  
User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1523 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I saw in the local paper here that XJ is going to open up a small maintenance base at MLI starting June 5th. The lease is for three years, and I guess we'll see how things work out after that. I hope this is a good thing for XJ and that they keep it around for a while. We need things like this at MLI as things have become quiet for a while. Our passenger numbers are doing well, but I still think we need more destinations to compete with PIA, CID, etc. In other news, it appears that things are heating up for service to Washington, DC. I'm interested to see who, if anyone, takes the bait, and how long it will take before this becomes reality.

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User currently offlineTWAL10114ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Maybe Access Air will make a comeback? LOL  Wink

In all seriousness though, that's good news for MLI. Having grown up in MLI I know how big things like this can be for the airport. I just wish we could return to the days of seeing the TWA D9S glide in from STL or the HP 73S lumber in from PHX.


User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3381 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Might be good news for MLI, but I have to wonder why they didn't just incorporate the SF3 maintenance into the new DSM hangar. Or the "old" RJ85 facility in CVG... Or in DTW...Or in MSP...

Seems a bit inefficient to me.

JMHO...



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Mabye things are picking up and they'll paint another Saab 340. Smile


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3146 times:



Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 2):
I have to wonder why they didn't just incorporate the SF3 maintenance into the new DSM hangar. Or the "old" RJ85 facility in CVG... Or in DTW...Or in MSP...

They gave up the leases on the CVG and MSP hangars in bankruptcy.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

This is for the Mesaba CRJ-200 maintenance - the 2 that were delivered new (1 went to Compass for a while) and the 15 that are in the process of coming over from Pinnacle. MSP-MLI is almost all Mesaba flying now.

MLI is an all -200 city for NW. One can assume this will mostly be for RON maintenance.

Remember that XJ RONs generally does not RON aircraft at the hubs.

DSM is getting the new -900 MX base.


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3381 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2978 times:



Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 4):
They gave up the leases on the CVG and MSP hangars in bankruptcy.

I had heard that, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the info.

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):

MLI is an all -200 city for NW. One can assume this will mostly be for RON maintenance.

Remember that XJ RONs generally does not RON aircraft at the hubs.

DSM is getting the new -900 MX base.

I read that it was for CRJ's, but the article I saw had an SF3 in the picture, thus the slip (slaps forehead).

I realize that DSM is for the -900's. I'm just saying that if they took the time/resources to build that facility, they should have incorporated their plans for whatever the MLI hangar will be used for into it. DSM has plenty of -200 traffic in/out of it as well. This would be even "easier" (for lack of a better term) if all they are going to do is general RON maintenance as opposed to any kind of heavy check.



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

DSM is the -900 maintenance facility and will get -900 service from all 3 hubs (+DCA at times). The

XJ's -200's will all be based out of MSP. Since XJ does not RON CRJ's at MSP they need a line station to perform overnight maintenance. MLI fits the role well as it is an all -200 station. The DTW & MEM is flown by 9E.

There is not much effort to get this done as they will be leasing a vacant hanger. DSM will RON '900's, MLI will RON -200's and CWA RON's SF3's.


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2796 times:



Quoting Acey559 (Thread starter):
In other news, it appears that things are heating up for service to Washington, DC. I'm interested to see who, if anyone, takes the bait, and how long it will take before this becomes reality.

I've always thought UA could do more with their stronger midwest mid-sized airports like CID, MLI, PIA, OMA, etc and feed their IAD hub. This would capture some DC O & D and also connections to Europe and the Northeast/South that could bypass delay proned ORD. Seems like a win-win situation to me, not sure why they have not thought of this yet.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1523 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2732 times:



Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 8):
I've always thought UA could do more with their stronger midwest mid-sized airports like CID, MLI, PIA, OMA, etc and feed their IAD hub. This would capture some DC O & D and also connections to Europe and the Northeast/South that could bypass delay proned ORD. Seems like a win-win situation to me, not sure why they have not thought of this yet.

I've been griping for a while that MLI needs to have a bigger eastern presence. If you look at our destination map, there is a considerable gap between East and West. I think a DC flight will do very well, especially with all the military personnel and Rock Island Arsenal employees we have here. I really hope this happens, but of course the next question is who do you think will pick it up and to which airport? DL has a fairly large presence at DCA, and UA obviously owns IAD, but I wouldn't rule out FL going to BWI, especially since Bruce Carter loves FL, he might give them first dibs. At any rate, something like this is a long time coming, and I really hope it becomes a reality. Oh, and how was Florida, by the way?  Wink


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

The current cost of fuel makes marginal routes like MLI-DCA/IAD unattractive due to the deteriorating economics of 50 seat RJ's.

User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Good news for MLI ... I still think of it as my home airport even though I live minutes from ORD. I assumed they'd be using the old Air Wisconsin hangar (which I believe was formerly the old Mississippi Valley Airlines hangar), but the article said they'd expand an existing building on the cargo side (the east partition of the north, terminal side of the airport - where the DHL DC-9 parks every morning). Does John Deere still lease the old Air Whisky hangar?

Quoting Acey559 (Reply 9):
I've been griping for a while that MLI needs to have a bigger eastern presence.

They've needed it for a looooooooooooongtiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime. Their farthest east coast destination for a long time was Chicago ... haha ... then Cincinnati, then Atlanta.



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User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1523 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2678 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 11):
Does John Deere still lease the old Air Whisky hangar?

I'm not exactly sure where the old Air Whisky hangar used to be. Deere's hangar is on the south side right next to Elliott Aviation, although it sounds like they'll be building a brand new hangar where 13 and 9/27 intersect. I don't know what's going to happen to their current hangar, but I'm sure they'll find something to do with it.

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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2629 times:



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 10):
The current cost of fuel makes marginal routes like MLI-DCA/IAD unattractive due to the deteriorating economics of 50 seat RJ's.



Quoting Acey559 (Reply 9):
I think a DC flight will do very well, especially with all the military personnel and Rock Island Arsenal employees we have here.

They'd be travelling on MIL or GOV fares, which generate far less revenue than real world traffic. Combine that with the cost of fuel, and using a limited commodity (DCA slot) on such traffic doesn't make a lot of financial sense.


User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3889 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Interesting that XJ opens ANOTHER mx facility for a small fleet of 200s. Overnight mx is done now in CWA and can be done in DSM when the facility is open in the fall. Do we really need another one? Unless of course the company will focus the saabs in CWA/RHI, the 900s in DSM and the 200s in MLI with the other mx facilities filling in every once in awhile.

In the intra company announcement it mentions how perfectly located MLI is to all THREE hubs and how this facility will meet the needs for our growing CRJ fleet. Why the need for a mx facility for a 17 strong fleet that is based only in MSP and flies primarily from that hub? Hmmm... do I smell more 200s for XJ?


AZJ


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2508 times:



Quoting Acey559 (Reply 9):
Oh, and how was Florida, by the way?

Florida was great, nice to have a change of scenery for 2 weeks! I had forgot what grass looked like  Smile

Service on Delta was great too! (CID-ATL-PNS-ATL-CID)


User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2443 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 14):
Why the need for a mx facility for a 17 strong fleet that is based only in MSP and flies primarily from that hub? Hmmm... do I smell more 200s for XJ?

Even a fleet half that size could justify a small mtc base. Any city that gets a couple of overnights with cheap hangar space is good. If it is served by more than one hub, even better. Depending on the Mtc program each plane needs a layover check every five days and a more involved service check about once a month. That is more than enough work to keep a small nights only crew working.


User currently offlineFlymli From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Deere still leases the old air wisconsin hangar so that is not available for airline maintenance. Deere however is building a new hangar this summer so their hangar will be available to an airline in about 20 months. Alot can change during that time frame. The Deere hangar can easily house 3 CRJ-200's and it might be possible with minor modifications to house 2 CRJ 900's. Stay tuned. As far as the D.C. service is concerned, the first army from Atlanta is moving to the Arsenal Island with a variety of 3 star and 2 star generals as well as several hundred military personnel so yes, there is a big puch to get some kind of service to the D.C. metro area. Very hard for Reagan slots but will push forward.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2393 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 14):
Why the need for a mx facility for a 17 strong fleet that is based only in MSP and flies primarily from that hub? Hmmm... do I smell more 200s for XJ?

Perhaps contingency planning against the Pinnacle situation. Is that a whip-saw I hear?

More likely that there will be more than 36 -900's in the fleet with the way things are going, taking up more space in DSM.

I wouldn't be surprised to see NW shed some -200's if they can find a way to terminate leases after this summer if fuel stays at its current level.


User currently offlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1523 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2272 times:



Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 15):
Florida was great, nice to have a change of scenery for 2 weeks! I had forgot what grass looked like Smile

Service on Delta was great too! (CID-ATL-PNS-ATL-CID)

Sorry it took so long for a reply, I've been super busy with vacation and school, etc. I'm glad you had a good time and that your DL flights were good! I said the same thing about the grass when I got off the plane in SAN. I can't wait for it to finally start warming up here too, although today was a pretty nice day in DBQ!  Smile


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