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Question About Non-rev On Delta.  
User currently offlineJoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

Hi All,

The airline I work for has a new agreement with Delta allowing us to purchase Zed tickets. We used to only be able to get ID90s. Well, having to make a last minute trip to PBI, I thought I'd give it a shot since I've never non-reved on Delta before and the flights make much more sense to PBI.

My questions would be: Since I'm not a Delta employee (obviously) and not a Sky Team employee for that matter, I assume I'd rank near the bottom of the stand-by list, right? I'm curious, though what my ranking would be as compared to say, Buddy pass travelers or parents of employees etc.

Also, what's the upgrade policy for non-revs?

If there's any Delta insider out there that could help me out, I'm just looking at DL1478 on March 12th SFO-ATL and then DL546 on March 13th ATL-PBI.

I know you can't give out exact numbers but how do the flights look for someone like me?

Thanks very much!

JP


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User currently offlineN757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

First, you will be after everyone if you work for a carrier that is not DL, DL Connection, Skyteam. Also, you will come after the buddy passes. My experience with the ID90/ZED is that instead of your actual employment date, the agent will use the date of travel. So, it pretty much sucks.

Upgrade for employees goes by priority type, then seniority.

You might want to reconsider 1478. 546 looks OK.
N757KW



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User currently offlineJoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

N757KW,
Thanks for that info. Looks like I'm definitely going to get myself a back up. Those nasty little ZED tickets are certainly not cheap. At 300 bucks I'm almost better off buying an actual ticket.

Can you suggest another flight that I may have better luck on?

Regardless, thanks again and wish me luck!

JP

[Edited 2008-03-10 13:30:44]


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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1134 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6220 times:



Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 2):
Thanks for that info. Looks like I'm definitely going to get myself a back up. Those nasty little ZED tickets are certainly not cheap. At 300 bucks I'm almost better off buying an actual ticket.

according to the zed/m chart & mileage at 2684(zone 4) via ATL, the fare should be much less than $300.


User currently offlineN757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6178 times:

Well the earlier flights have more seats open. I thought $300 was a little much for the ZED fare too. I paid less to go to ATL-ICN, but that is a little different.


"What we've got here, is failure to communicate." from Cool Hand Luke
User currently offlineJoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6140 times:



Quoting CV880 (Reply 3):
according to the zed/m chart & mileage at 2684(zone 4) via ATL, the fare should be much less than $300.

Oops, you're right. I looked at it wrong. According to our employee travel website it comes to $194.80 r/t. I read it as $294.80. It's been a long day.

So, what about Thursday morning flights SFO-ATL? Look any better?



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User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6129 times:



Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 2):
Thanks for that info. Looks like I'm definitely going to get myself a back up. Those nasty little ZED tickets are certainly not cheap. At 300 bucks I'm almost better off buying an actual ticket.

there is nothing better than a confirmed seat...



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User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 648 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

I love Pass Rding on DL cause they have those Screens in the Gate area that tells you when you've been cleared and also what number you are on the list. Once you see your name with a seat number you just walk up to the Gate Podium and she scans your bar code and out pops a boarding pass with the seat. This was all before I had kids now I by confirmed seats on any airline or I take Amtrak when I go to Texas from OKC.


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User currently offlineSFODL888 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

The redeye out of SFO always goes out full. I would suggest DL46 the 6:00 am SFO-ATL flight in the AM. That flight have a big no-show factor. It usually always leave with open seats even if it is overbooked. I work that flight practically every morning. DL68 the 8:00 am SFO-ATL tends to be always full due to the time. No one can get up for the 6:00 am flight and always arrive late so we rebook then on DL68 for $50.00. You will be going as an S4 priority with the date of travel as your seniority date. This means you'll go right after Buddy Passes. Current loads as of right now for DL46/13MAR is +20 out of 184 and DL68/13MAR is +8 out of 262 if you want to go out in the AM.

[Edited 2008-03-11 08:18:45]

[Edited 2008-03-11 08:19:11]

User currently offlineJoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5974 times:

SFODL888-

Thank you very much for that info. I really appreciate it. Looks like trying for the 0600 flight would be my best bet.
Wait, does +20 mean it's oversold by 20???
If you're working Thursday morning maybe I'll see you. You can't miss me, I'll be at the very, very bottom of the standby list!  Smile
Take care!

JP



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User currently offlineSFODL888 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5945 times:

I will be there. +20 means that there are 20 open seats. And of course when you're in ATL, you have your options of PBI/FLL/MIA.

User currently offlineVgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1514 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

What everyone else has said is true for you. DL priority is based on the employee's priority code, then seniority date. In summary, employees have the choice of S2 or S3 priority... parents of employees travel as S3B, buddy passes are S4... and you would come after that.

Buddy passes, parents and employees get the employee's hire date for seniority... you'll receive the current date of travel as your priority, so you'll be pretty much at the bottom of the barrel. If a flight cancels or if there's bad weather you might get stuck...



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User currently offlineFlyguyPBI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

Non Rev space into PBI is hard to come by. I'm 26 years seniority ( original DL, not PA or Western) and sometimes I can't even get on board to commute for work. Even with the 763's back for season , seats are hard to come by. So I usually use another station, mostly FLL or MLB.

If you are trying to get to North Palm Beach County.... you might want to think about using MLB ( Melbourne) its a little drive, but you will have much better luck over PBI. I Think we have 4 mainline and 2 connection flights now. It is a great little airport and I love flying from there.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5816 times:



Quoting SFODL888 (Reply 8):
The redeye out of SFO always goes out full. I would suggest DL46 the 6:00 am SFO-ATL flight in the AM. That flight have a big no-show factor. It usually always leave with open seats even if it is overbooked. I work that flight practically every morning. DL68 the 8:00 am SFO-ATL tends to be always full due to the time. No one can get up for the 6:00 am flight and always arrive late so we rebook then on DL68 for $50.00. You will be going as an S4 priority with the date of travel as your seniority date. This means you'll go right after Buddy Passes. Current loads as of right now for DL46/13MAR is +20 out of 184 and DL68/13MAR is +8 out of 262 if you want to go out in the AM.

This is a very important suggestion. The earliest morning flights are almost always the best to try for. As said, morning flights have a high no-show factor, and even if you don't like getting up that early, you ain't getting to PBI. The same is most likely true for the return. As the day goes on, flights fill up more and more because of cancellations, delays, people showing up late, etc. Very critical suggestion.



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