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OS Back In The Black Numbers After Years In Red  
User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

source:

http://www.kurier.at/geldundwirtschaft/140466.php

3,3 million EUR plus, last year this time they announced: 129,9 million EUR minus.

or for the higher intellectual level.  Wink

http://derstandard.at/?id=3261389

(not so the standard-forum below the article Big grin)

[Edited 2008-03-12 09:00:30]

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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

Where is OS succeeding?

I guess giving up some long-haul helped a lot (didn't they drop SYD?).

Where are they making money?


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

FocusEAST

They are doing very well in this market.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineTIALATI From Albania, joined Sep 2007, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Hell yeah,

On the Focus East strategy they are charging OS fares with the operating costs of VO.

Hence it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise the difference.  Smile


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2904 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 1):
didn't they drop SYD?.

Yes, they only codeshare with TG to SYD via BKK now.


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

I am happy to hear they are finally making some money. They offer the best Y class service on long distance flights in my opinion.

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2805 times:
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It's good that OS is making money finally again. Now, if they could get Alitalia and Swiss in the black as well. I would love to see more of OS in the U.S.

User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2751 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 6):
Swiss in the black as well.

You have got to be kidding me.....Swiss is more profitable than LH at the moment Wedgetail737  Wink


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4906 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2716 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
Yes, they only codeshare with TG to SYD via BKK now.

Even though its been a while since OS stop serving SYD its sad having to loose another great european carrier... I would have to say not long til BA pull out of the SYD route and codeshare on QF metal... Probably when the A380's come online...

EK413



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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Nice to hear that OS is back in the black.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 6):
Now, if they could get Swiss in the black as well.

You really should review your ideas about that airline.

http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0312_q4_2007_business_report_e.pdf


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

I don't see a future of AUA under the LH umbrella,since four hubs on such a small geogaphical area are not sustainable.
AUA still has a "waterhead" in huge administrative overhead ,while operating costs seems to become quite competetive.
It would be better for OS to search a teamin with a US or Asian carrier in order to use Vienna airport as a tru alternative.
Should LH buy OS,I don't see how VIE,MUC and Zurich could co-exist efficiently



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User currently offlineLHRBlueSkies From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 493 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Good for OS! They seem to always be going through a roller-coaster ride, in the black, then red, then black, then red!!

However they are a great little airline, have a place in Star, and deserve continued success....be interesting what they plans for continue expansion are..?



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User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2597 times:

The real problem of OS is the

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 10):
"waterhead"

in the Government, ÖIAG or even in some Management positions within the airline itself etc.


User currently offlineLHSTR From Germany, joined Mar 2001, 226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

To be honest? This is an awful result for 2007!

If you did not make a huge profit in 2007, 2008 will be a desaster with the economy turning down, high oil prices, low dollar, more competition, etc...


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2450 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 10):
don't see a future of AUA under the LH umbrella,since four hubs on such a small geogaphical area are not sustainable.

Many people said the same thing about 3 hubs so close together when LH first showed interest in investing in LX. ZRH is only 141 nm from MUC and 154 nm from FRA. Obviously those concerns were unfounded based on recent LH and LX results.


User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2361 times:



Quoting TIALATI (Reply 3):
On the Focus East strategy they are charging OS fares with the operating costs of VO.

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Right but, so does Lufthansa with its City Line, Augsburg Airways, etc low cost brands. For now I'll try Austrian. I heard they finally dropped that "alacarte" ham and frozen bun.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2263 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 6):
Now, if they could get Alitalia and Swiss in the black as well

Swiss???? Did you read the recent threads about Swiss or the numbers they released? Swiss made a profit of more than $500mi last year and is more profitable than the mother LH.
Swiss More Profitable Than LH

Regarding the OS numbers it is nice to see that they are black. But when you see the profits of other airlines and taking into account of the good economy they are very disappointing.


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

It's the price they pay for standing alone. Probably their costs are too high as they need to pay for all by themselves (while for example Swiss and Lufthansa can profit from each other's services). Also I can imagine that it costs something to have 3 brands (Lauda Air, Austrian Airlines and Tyrolean Airways) with a high amount of different aircraft in the fleet.

I love OS though, their service is fantastic and far superior to LH and LXs and you need to fly the Fokkers as long as you have the possibility to hide from these Airbusses. Their route-network to the East is fantastic. I hope their numbers continue to improve.



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User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2212 times:



Quoting RJ100 (Reply 17):
Tyrolean Airways

ahem..... Austrian arrows  Wink Big grin


User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

On the fleet side atwonline.com reported that OS will exchange one CRJ by one F100, withdraw 2 further CRJ and 2 DH8-300 and buy 4 ex-SAS DH8-Q400....

KA.



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2088 times:



Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Thread starter):
source:

http://www.kurier.at/geldundwirtschaft/140466.php

3,3 million EUR plus, last year this time they announced: 129,9 million EUR minus.

or for the higher intellectual level. Wink

http://derstandard.at/?id=3261389

(not so the standard-forum below the article

I wonder how much of in influence the sale of the A330's and A340's had on this figure?

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2078 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 20):
I wonder how much of in influence the sale of the A330's and A340's had on this figure?

Regards,
Wings

I dunno, but now they are also selling their stake in TUI Austria.


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