TatTVC From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12016 times:
because of the go-around button! A friend of my parents was a Captain on the MD-80s @ Delta for a while, and coming into DFW one time they had to go around, so naturally he hit the go-around button (he hadn't heard the stories yet!.) The throttles go all the way to full power, the nose shoots up, the airplane rattles and roars like never before... he said he had no clue what the airplane was going to do next and it scared the crap out of him!* After that, he swore he'd never hit that button on the Mad dog again! But really, for the most part AFAIL it's from the McDonnell Douglas abbreviation.
*Not to suggest of course that he didn't know what he was doing; he was a great pilot and flew everything in Delta's fleet as he climbed the seniority list. But apparently the go-around button on the MD80/90 is something else!
JettaKnight From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11451 times:
Wasn't the MD-80 the first aircraft launched with the 'MD' designation?
Ph-tvh From Netherlands, joined May 2001, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11355 times:
Quoting TatTVC (Reply 6): coming into DFW one time they had to go around, so naturally he hit the go-around button (he hadn't heard the stories yet!.) The throttles go all the way to full power, the nose shoots up, the airplane rattles and roars like never before... he said he had no clue what the airplane was going to do next and it scared the crap out of him!*
Dont tell me he never practiced go-arounds in the simulator?
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1622 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11319 times:
Quoting JettaKnight (Reply 7): Wasn't the MD-80 the first aircraft launched with the 'MD' designation?
The MD-80 was originally launched as the DC-9-55 in 1977. However, prior to service entry it was changed to the DC-9 Super 80 series, which included the -81, -82, -83. In 1983, the MD moniker was adopted to refresh the company image following AA 191. The MD-88 is the only variant of the MD-80 family that is not listed as "DC-9" on its type certificate.
So it was the first aircraft to be given an "MD" title. But the first to be launched as such was the MD-11.
Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2158 posts, RR: 15 Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10792 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 9): But the first to be launched as such was the MD-11.
DeltaDAWG From United States of America, joined May 2006, 602 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10765 times:
Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 9): The MD-88 is the only variant of the MD-80 family that is not listed as "DC-9" on its type certificate.
MD-90, IIRC I thought it too was not listed as DC-9?
TatTVC From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10586 times:
Quoting Ph-tvh (Reply 8): Dont tell me he never practiced go-arounds in the simulator?
I'm sure he did. I was young when I heard the story and haven't seen or heard from him 10+ years, but the definite point was that the mad dog went crazy when the go-around button got pressed. I guess the simulator didn't quiet accurately portray what would happen! Besides, as amazing as simulators are, there's no substitute for the real thing (even though simulators are AMAZING!! Just got my first ride in ANC last summer at Fedex and it was sooo cool!!)
-TatTVC
Mdorbust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10517 times:
Quoting TatTVC (Reply 6): because of the go-around button! A friend of my parents was a Captain on the MD-80s @ Delta for a while, and coming into DFW one time they had to go around, so naturally he hit the go-around button (he hadn't heard the stories yet!.) The throttles go all the way to full power, the nose shoots up, the airplane rattles and roars like never before... he said he had no clue what the airplane was going to do next and it scared the crap out of him!* After that, he swore he'd never hit that button on the Mad dog again!
An entertaining story, but most likely not true.
The MD-80 is a very quite plane up front, even under full power.
Hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3024 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10497 times:
Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 11): MD-90, IIRC I thought it too was not listed as DC-9?
Yes, both the MD-90-30 and the Boeing 717-200 are on the DC-9 type certificate and not listed as DC-9-xx.
SuseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9982 times:
Quoting Ph-tvh (Reply 8): Dont tell me he never practiced go-arounds in the simulator?
It's not like the simulator can simulate the "shake and raddle" of the cabin. Like the dude said, it isn't that he didn't know what he was doing, he was just surprised by the way it "felt."
Rampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1755 posts, RR: 11 Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8711 times:
Quoting Warszawa (Reply 17): Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Not rocket science really.
It's just that simple? Gee and this whole time I thought there was some kind of story or folklore behind it.
Well, in that case, i'll call em the Monkey Dung 80's.
I too was hoping for something deeper. Not a flippant restating of the abbreviation. I figured that. But why "mad" and why "dog"? Anything with the personality of the aircraft? Or the pilots that flew them?
ANITIX87 From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 2610 posts, RR: 16 Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8603 times:
It looks like a dog from a head-on angle, especially this Alitalia one. MD is the same letters as Mad Dog. I guess they could have called Manly Donkey, but it doesn't look like a Donkey.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1622 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8484 times:
Quoting Travatl (Reply 10): Which was the dusted off DC-10-Super 60 project.
True, a lot of R&D done for the DC-10 Super 60 series benefitted the MD-11 project. But the MD-11 still encompassed many things the Super 60 did not. Winglets, glass cockpit, composite panels, engine type, etc.
Quoting DeltaDAWG (Reply 11): MD-90, IIRC I thought it too was not listed as DC-9?
Yes, as with the 717 too. But I said the MD-80 family specifically. Although they are so similar, I categorize the MD-90 as a "Mad Dog" as well. To really break it down, MD-90 and MD-95 were intended to be their own families. But thanks to Boeing, only two variants of the former and one of the latter ever saw the light of day.
Vatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 778 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7090 times:
Quoting Rampart (Reply 19): I too was hoping for something deeper. Not a flippant restating of the abbreviation. I figured that. But why "mad" and why "dog"? Anything with the personality of the aircraft? Or the pilots that flew them?
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 20): It looks like a dog from a head-on angle, especially this Alitalia one. MD is the same letters as Mad Dog. I guess they could have called Manly Donkey, but it doesn't look like a Donkey.
"Mad Dog" suggests a certain "attitude" that something like Manly Donkey or some of the other oh-so-eloquent suggestions above do not. And if there is anything the MD-80 has, it's attitude.
25 TrijetsRMissed: Indeed, especially on take-off climb. I think that name originated with AA.
26 Pilotboi: Okay, now that we've gone over the MD part, it's "80"s turn. Why did MD skip ahead to DC-9-80 from DC-9-50. Was it because the 80s were coming? Obviou
27 ThirtyEcho: You need to use spell check or go back and get your GED, your choice.
28 ImperialEagle: No, actually that would be "Mighty Dawg".
29 FlyASAGuy2005: A bit touchy aren't we? Take a chill pill... Another thing, which may be a bit off topic, what's with AA and "Super_____"
30 Hawaiian717: The MD-80 was originally marketed as the DC-9 Super 80. Douglas had done the same with the DC-8 Super 60. Alitalia also uses the Super 80 designation
31 Iceberg210: I believe that part of the reason that the MD-80 was called the 80 may have been that it was in succession to the DC-8 60 and 70 series so the next se
32 Viscount724: Swissair, the launch customer (along with Austrian) and first MD-80 operator, also called them Super 80s. Swissair and Austrian ordered 15 and 8 resp
33 TrijetsRMissed: I think that's the most logical explanation. Given that the year of the first flight and/or service entry for each aircraft, MD-81 through -88, seeme
34 Pilotboi: But there was never a 60 or 70 series - at least that I know of. Yeah, the years seem to match up a bit. Even the 90 and "95" (717). So that's who st
35 Xaphan: Because "P.O.S." was already taken. I worked the aircraft for years in Delta operations. It was a nightmare to balance. The only place you could load
36 FlyASAGuy2005: They also call their ATR's "Super" ATRs. Noticed that for the first time in PR.
37 CALTECH: Never ever heard of that one, not from pilots, techs, ops, or rampers. Mad Dogs because they didn't like you touching them, leave them alone and they
38 Toltommy: some of the DL MD-11 pilots I knew referred to the MD-11 as the "Mighty Dog"....
39 Widget1580: I have also heard the MD-90 referred to as the "mother dog" I don't know how true that is. -Travis
40 Xtoler: Damn, RJ111, you beat me to that one. Not only is Mogan David a fine Jewish fortified wine, but also an aircraft maker as well. Oh, MD stands for Mc D
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Yes, as with the 717 too. But I said the MD-80 family specifically. Although they are so similar, I categorize the MD-90 as a "Mad Dog" as well. To really break it down, MD-90 and MD-95 were intended to be their own families. But thanks to Boeing, only two variants of the former and one of the latter ever saw the light of day.
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