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Has Production of the B717 Ceased?  
User currently offlineAdman737 From Ecuador, joined Sep 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8802 times:

Is the 717 still being made today or did boeing just complete the order left over for the DC-9?

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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8803 times:



Quoting Adman737 (Thread starter):
Is the 717 still being made today or did boeing just complete the order left over for the DC-9?

Production ceased in May 2006 due to orders drying up.


User currently offlineAdman737 From Ecuador, joined Sep 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8773 times:

does that mean airtran can't order anymore?

User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8753 times:



Quoting Adman737 (Reply 2):
does that mean airtran can't order anymore?

Correct. Wasn't there a rumor of moving down some production line to LGB?



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31259 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8606 times:
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Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 3):
Wasn't there a rumor of moving down some production line to LGB?

Boeing wanted to move 737-700C and the C-40 production to LGB to keep the line open and relieve some of the pressure on Renton (this was when the 757 was still in production), however the machinists in Renton threw a fit so the plan was canceled (along with, eventually, the 757 and LGB).


User currently offlineW3ndytj4n From Indonesia, joined Feb 2006, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8557 times:

The last frame was rolled off on April 2006. Boeing 717 was the last commercial airliner built in Long Beach factory. There are 156 frames built. The last two frames were delivered to AirTran and Midwest Airlines on May 23, 2006.

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User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8360 times:



Quoting W3ndytj4n (Reply 5):
The last frame was rolled off on April 2006. Boeing 717 was the last commercial airliner built in Long Beach factory. There are 156 frames built. The last two frames were delivered to AirTran and Midwest Airlines on May 23, 2006.

What's being done in the Long Beach factory now?


User currently offlineAvi8tir From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8297 times:
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Quoting Multimark (Reply 6):
What's being done in the Long Beach factory now?

they've pretty much leveled most of what was the 717 line. They produced the MD-11 there prior to the 717. Its a shame to see it now compared to what it was 15 years ago. the northeast dirt area is what once was the heart of LGB!

They still produce the C-17 there but that line is at a different location on the field.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26025 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8268 times:

Much of MDC facilities are being redeveloped under a banner of 'Douglas Park' which will be a community consisting of light commercial development, offices, a hotel, retail shopping and about 1,400 family residences (homes, condos, apartments) plus a 13 acre park.


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User currently offlineMestrugo From Chile, joined Apr 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8160 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Much of MDC facilities are being redeveloped under a banner of 'Douglas Park' which will be a community consisting of light commercial development, offices, a hotel, retail shopping and about 1,400 family residences (homes, condos, apartments) plus a 13 acre park.

Sad end for an once mighty plane builder. If I'm not wrong, all DC-8s, DC-9s, DC-10s, MD-11s and MD-8Xs came out from here, right?


User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2164 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8146 times:

Sad to say, yes it has. The last two went to AirTran and Midwest as N928ME and N939AT. The place really should have more dignified end than a commercial/residential area.


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User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7325 times:

It the hangar or line with the FLY DC Jets still up? I always loved to the pictures of that!!!


-Carl



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User currently offlineGreg3322 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6762 times:



Quoting AirEMS (Reply 11):
It the hangar or line with the FLY DC Jets still up? I always loved to the pictures of that!!!

Yes, those buildings are still standing. There is a car commercial on TV right now filmed in that parking lot. You can't miss the FLY DC Jets sign in the background!

Greg


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6685 times:



Quoting AirEMS (Reply 11):
Is the hangar or line with the FLY DC Jets still up? I always loved the pictures of that!!!

A year or so ago the City of Long Beach was talking about declaring the "Fly DC Jets" sign a protected historic monument or similar. Not sure where that stands.

Photo below of Boeing LGB staff with the last 717 and the last commercial aircraft built at LGB shortly before it was delivered in May 2006. Boeing said it was the 15,599th aircraft (commercial and military) built at the LGB factory since 1941. About 10,000 of them were built during WWII, including 3,000 B-17s built under contract by Douglas for Boeing.

http://www.boeing.com/randy/images/fly_dc_jets_airtran_lg.jpg


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13442 posts, RR: 100
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6614 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Much of MDC facilities are being redeveloped under a banner of 'Douglas Park' which will be a community consisting of light commercial development, offices, a hotel, retail shopping and about 1,400 family residences (homes, condos, apartments) plus a 13 acre park.

Its a shame. But the reality is that Long Beach's cost of living is far too high to support aircraft production. With California's high worker's comp costs, the trend will be to move production out of state. Its a shame... but that is the trend.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6215 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Much of MDC facilities are being redeveloped under a banner of 'Douglas Park' which will be a community consisting of light commercial development, offices, a hotel, retail shopping and about 1,400 family residences (homes, condos, apartments) plus a 13 acre park.

Oh, thats all LGB needs, are more whiners and complainers about the noise next to an airport????? Are thet crazy??????
What will they do, advertize that property to NIMBY's only???

Sheesh...........

Access-Air



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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2391 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6115 times:



Quoting Mestrugo (Reply 9):
If I'm not wrong, all DC-8s, DC-9s, DC-10s, MD-11s and MD-8Xs came out from here, right?

A small amount of MD-80/90's were built in China. They were called Trunkliners.


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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5831 times:



Quoting Avi8tir (Reply 7):
they've pretty much leveled most of what was the 717 li

The 717 production is still standing (at least as far as a couple months ago). However, all the DC-10 mfg buildings have been completely leveled with the exception of just a few smaller ones.



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5556 times:



Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 19):
From my understanding, the sign was already declared a national landmark and cannot be removed or taken down and is why Boeing Realty is trying to lease these buildings and not tear them down.

I did some more research and apparently, Boeing Realty is attempting to lease the space for reuse per the following order with the city of Long Beach until a long term plan can be developed. It says it will be in effect for 10 years and requires the Fly DC Jets sign to be maintained.

www.longbeach.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=16508



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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5191 times:



Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 19):
DC-10s, MD-11s

It has been awhile since I've driven by on Lakewood (usually just passing by on the 405), but it always seemed to small to house a DC-10/MD-11. Of course, I've never seen one parked in front of that building. Only on the ramp on the west side.

*Oh yah, I did have the good fortune to hold short of a taxiway there a couple years ago in a -172 while the Italian AF KC767 taxied by right in front of me. His wingtip was just about on top of me. So cool!



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4951 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
Boeing said it was the 15,599th aircraft (commercial and military) built at the LGB factory since 1941.

Wow, that is staggering. That is 2/3rds of a plane every day for 65 years.


User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3236 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
A year or so ago the City of Long Beach was talking about declaring the "Fly DC Jets" sign a protected historic monument or similar. Not sure where that stands

That would be great to see it blazing for a long time to come!

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
Photo below of Boeing LGB staff with the last 717 and the last commercial aircraft built at LGB

I have to say that this picture is a very impressive one... Not only do you see the sign but the very proud people behind it.


-Carl



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3324 times:



Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 21):
It has been awhile since I've driven by on Lakewood (usually just passing by on the 405), but it always seemed to small to house a DC-10/MD-11. Of course, I've never seen one parked in front of that building. Only on the ramp on the west side.

Yup, but they were. Because the building was not tall enough, the DC-10s and MD-11 were all build except for the vertical stabilizer above the number 2 engine. There was a tail dock right outside of the front of the building where the tail was added and the final stage of assy before it was towed across Lakewood to the west side ramp. There should be some pics on the net of -10s and -11s without their tails staggered in that building and yes, it does look tight.


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User currently offlineAmccann From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

In my mind the Boeing 717 and Boeing 727 are the two most beautiful Boeing aircraft. T-tails have always had a place in my heart, including the Dc9s, MD80s, and MD90s. Its unfortunate to see the facilities of the once proud McDonnell Douglas aircraft company be converted to a commercial/residential park. Just what Long Beach needs is another neighorhood to complain about the noise the airport makes... they should all be forced to sign a contract stating they will not complain due to their KNOWN proximity to the airport.


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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

I believe the 717 has ceased production, I think about 2 years ago.


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25 Post contains images Columba : Well they could order the Chinese copy ARJ 21 I hope they will do that. Great picture btw !!!
26 TZTriStar500 : The main final assembly buildings 80 and 84 on the east side of Lakewood Blvd are still standing on which the Fly DC Jets sign remains and still light
27 Isitsafenow : Ok, it was the last one built but of the airTran and the Midwest 717 mentioned, does anyone know which was the last one DELIVERED? safe
28 FlyASAGuy2005 : WOW! I never realized how short of a life the MD-11's had with Delta!
29 IAHFLYER : After looking at the map of LGB, I noticed the terminal there looks well in a word or two.... needs improvement. I think that area would be good for t
30 Tdscanuck : They delivered on the same day (23-May-2006). Tom.
31 Hawaiian717 : The main building (the one with the old control tower on top) is a Cultural Heritage Landmark, and houses the airline checkin desks, some offices, an
32 Isitsafenow : Thx for that. Now I can say I flew on ONE of the last 717's delivered.....N928ME safe
33 Post contains images TrijetsRMissed : Well unfortunately for that airframe, yes. But that aircraft was the last one delivered from the 15 strong order made 10 years prior. DL delayed the
34 Dacman : Building 80 (DC-9, MD80/90, MD95 (717-200) and Building 84 (DC-8, DC-10, and MD11) are still standing. The "Fly DC Jets" sign sits atop these building
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