Pixpixpix From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
The Joint Application of AA and El Al for codesharing still does not seem to have been approved by the DOT. AA preannounced that it was making the application in a Dec 4 2007 press release.
Does anyone know where this stands right now? or have ideas about why it has been delayed?
AJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 708 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1445 times:
The first operation of AA/LY codeshare is tentatively planned for 4/30. Hopefully this will be loaded into Sabre by 4/20.
Phase one of the codeshare will be the following markets...
AA*(LY) = TLV-EWR/JFK/LAX/MIA
AA*(LY) = TLV-CDG/FCO/FRA/LHR/MAD
LY*(AA) = UK/EU-USA Markets to be determined by APR 2
LY*(AA) = EWR/JFK/LAX/MIA-Domestic USA Markets to be determined by APR 2
LY management has already joined the AA MIA oneworld/Codeshare Group in anticipation of the launch.
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10191 posts, RR: 62 Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1426 times:
Also: any update on the reports early on (after the merger was announced) that El Al would be moving over with AA in Terminal 8 at JFK? FlightStats and the PA both continue to show El Al operating out of Terminal 4. Will El Al, in fact, be moving to Terminal 8, or will it stay in Terminal 4, where it apparently just opened a new King David Lounge?
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1405 times:
Wasn't ELAL considering joining SkyTeam?
Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10191 posts, RR: 62 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1398 times:
Possibly, although I doubt any alliance would ever admit El Al, as they wouldn't want to piss off any potential Arab member airlines whose governments (sans Jordan and Egypt, of course) don't recognize Israel's existence, or right to exist.
Then again, people said the same thing about Taiwan, and yet reportedly China Airlines is negotiating to get into SkyTeam. However, even China-Taiwan relations aren't as bad as Israeli-Arab relations.
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1392 times:
Possibly, although I doubt any alliance would ever admit El Al, as they wouldn't want to piss off any potential Arab member airlines whose governments (sans Jordan and Egypt, of course) don't recognize Israel's existence, or right to exist.
Good Point! I hadn't thought of that.
Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
Pixpixpix From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1331 times:
Quoting AJMIA (Reply 2): The first operation of AA/LY codeshare is tentatively planned for 4/30
Do you know if this is still pending approval? There is no record of approval on the DOT site, but perhaps they post notices late (or not at all)
LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2104 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1302 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 5): Possibly, although I doubt any alliance would ever admit El Al, as they wouldn't want to piss off any potential Arab member airlines whose governments (sans Jordan and Egypt, of course) don't recognize Israel's existence, or right to exist.
Well should those airlines have a problem with it they would be welcome to leave the alliance. Nevertheless I don't know if the LY network would really benefit any alliance. Codeshare agreements and close partnerships with ailines eg AA probably bring more benefit to LY and also the other airlines who partner up with them oposed to a full alliance membership.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 3): Also: any update on the reports early on (after the merger was announced) that El Al would be moving over with AA in Terminal 8 at JFK?
I doubt it LY has just completely renovated it's King David Lounge at JFK's Terminal 4 last summer
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