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Ten Ways To Get Kicked-off A Plane!  
User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9285 times:

Hi to all,

I came across this article of the Times and thought it worth sharing:

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...nd_style/travel/article3552313.ece

They mention ten reasons, but I am pretty sure you have another few worth adding!  Wink

Regards!


Who says airports are boring places?!
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User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9237 times:

A few years ago a student was kicked off a Maersk Aircraft in VIE on the CPH bound flight, because people onboard and finally the FA's thought that he was looking suspicious "Al-Kaida like" with his long beard etc. so they called the Police special forces (called "Kranich" in VIE) to get him off the Aircraft shortly before departure.

[Edited 2008-03-16 05:55:10]

User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9118 times:

Funnily attempt having sex is in the list but ejaculating in someones hair is no problem on AA flights:
Passenger Gets Shot In The Head During High Jackin (by Zentraedi Mar 16 2008 in Civil Aviation)



There's still a long way to go before all the alliances deserve a star...
User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

Ok I get it. Don't carry any thing looking like a croc. or lizzerd. No Sex of any kind, magazines or other, No swearing on the plane, that is for the Captian only. And for God sake DON"T TALK durning the saftey breifiing.

Whats next. Oh ya .. No odors for the lavs durning flight. You might be thrown out of the aircraft...

This is getting a little much people.


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

... what's a lizzerd...? Is that like a rept-aisle...?  crazy 

Riv'



I travel, therefore I am.
User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7766 times:



Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 4):
what's a lizzerd...? Is that like a rept-aisle...?

nice one!

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 2):
Passenger Gets Shot In The Head During High Jackin

link is bad: here is the new one:http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/2008/03/woman-files-law.html

good title though!



Student - KELN
User currently offlineAyubogg From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7518 times:

Regarding the one about the passenger who was thrown out of the flight for reading pornography, I always wondered about this:

It's been a while, but I'm sure I've seen magazines of the type (Playboy, Penthouse, etc.) in magazine stands in airports. One would guess that the purporse of selling magazines and other periodicals out by your gate is so that you have something to read during your flight. I'm not saying that "reading" your Playboy openly during your flight should be accepted, but it could send the wrong message to sell these types of magazines in airports. We must also take into consideration what type of content this passenger's magazine had. It could be of an erotic nature without necessarily being graphic (Playboy is not really "hardcore" porn in my opinion). But regardless, this article can finally answer my question of why airport magazine stands sell publications of mature content.

Regards,

-Ayubogg



Alba gu bràth
User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7388 times:
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Hey I was on a DL flight December 26th - where a couple was in the bathroom when we landed.
Hope nobody got hurt!


User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7242 times:



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 5):

Maybe this will be a wake up call for those hotties out there not to dress so loosly. Ha ha. I am kidding, don't go and get your ramp vests in a wad.



Booooo Lois, Yaaaa Beer!!!
User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

I have to say I agree with a lot of them.

Getting kicked off for :

1. Singing soccer hooliganism. Definitely.
2. Smell, definitely.
3. Crocodile, no, but the pax argued and it was a safety issue. Definitely.
4. Wearing an offensive t-shirt. Hard to quantify, but when there is actual swearing etc, definitely.
5. Tight short skirt. This one is more difficult. There should be a policy, if not then there is an issue.
6. Sex. Yep, if it's visible then it's offensive.
7. Kid chanting, hmm, better than screaming, but you should be able to control/distract your kid or you should stay home.
8. Read porn. Get off. I like porn, but there is a time and place.

Most of these things are anti-social behaviour. I am a live and let live person. Don't share your music, odour, ghastly child or anything else with me and I will do the same.



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User currently offlineSkyguyB727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6651 times:



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 5):
link is bad: here is the new one:http://startelegram.typepad.com/sky_talk/2008/03/woman-files-law.html

It's odd. The article mentions that the woman is suing AA, but it makes no mention of her suing the alleged perpetrator.


User currently offline44k From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6487 times:



Quoting SkyguyB727 (Reply 10):
It's odd. The article mentions that the woman is suing AA, but it makes no mention of her suing the alleged perpetrator.

Well, who's gonna pay her more.. ridiculous...  Yeah sure


User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

How was it in a recent survey of wealthy woman on MSN. A very high percentage claim to be member of the mile-high club or wanting to join. I don't see how it is possible these days. Perhaps they have their own private jets!


747SP
User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3769 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6091 times:



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
1. Singing soccer hooliganism. Definitely.

I don't know if singing about someones underwear counts as hooliganism. Annoying, yes, but not hooliganism.

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
6. Sex. Yep, if it's visible then it's offensive.

I'd like to add "and/or audible" to that sentence.  silly 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5994 times:



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
2. Smell, definitely.

I agree completely with this, but somehow I also feel it is unfair to the 'victim'. Too many times I have been sitting beside someone who smelt bad, but unfortunately I feel that in many cases it is something out of their own control. For instance, just think of those hot summer days, running from one terminal to the other, trying desperately to get to your gate on time (for example), or that you have just arrived from a 12 hour flight and doing the last leg of your journey, or simply -like I believe happens to many- you are terrified of flying and sweat like a pig. To all of these, I feel quite sorry, as I am sure it is completely against their will to be molesting others.

Obviously, a completely different matter is lack of hygiene. This is definitely a reason to get kicked off but, then again, how to you tell the crew?

Another reason I believe is delicate but a true problem for people is being very oversized.



Who says airports are boring places?!
User currently onlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5472 times:



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
4. Wearing an offensive t-shirt. Hard to quantify, but when there is actual swearing etc, definitely.



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
5. Tight short skirt. This one is more difficult. There should be a policy, if not then there is an issu

You should be able to wear whatever you like, however you like it. If you look like an ass, it's your problem, not the airline's. As long as you can't see genitals, it's alright with me.

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):
8. Read porn. Get off. I like porn, but there is a time and place.

I regret having to say this but once again I disagree. It's a question of freedom, you should be able to read whatever you like whenever you like. The passenger sitting on your side or the crew of the airplane isn't compelled to read what you're reading, so I don't see how it can affect them. As long as you keep a correct attitude (i.e: as long as you don't masturbate, to be quite clear) it should be fine.

If someone is sitting on your side and feels offended, they'd just have to look away. Or ask you politely if you could read something else. But definitely not kick you out of the plane.


What happens next ? You can't listen to rock n' roll music because it's considered deviant ? You can't say fuck on the phone because it's a swearword and it might offend somebody ? How stupid is that ? As long as you don't directly insult somebody, I don't see why you should get thrown off the plane.



Cheers
User currently onlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5431 times:



Quoting AF1624 (Reply 15):
You should be able to wear whatever you like, however you like it. If you look like an ass, it's your problem, not the airline's. As long as you can't see genitals, it's alright with me.

Though I might add that I miss the time when flying had to be done with a lot of class. I always dress up in a suit when I fly, but that's because I like it ... Which allows me to understand someone might prefer a short skirt to look beautiful or some Bermudas (does this word exist in english ? Huh, you know, big shorts) to feel more comfortable.



Cheers
User currently offlineMoriarty From Sweden, joined Jan 2006, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5157 times:

I love the article! Big grin

That said..


Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 9):

I disagree. At least some. For instance:

- If half the crowd in a rather short flight sings and cheers I can live with that to some extent. If they act hostile or are being rude I would expect the crew to rectify the situation but throwing them off? Only if there was a security issue. And yes, If I got the local team supporters celebrating a victory with loads of alcohol and singing on a 10 hr flight I would seriously doubt their right to use that kind of transportation at that time. Everything has to be judged from situation to situation in the correct context. For instance - I one happened to be on the same flight as a famous Swedish choir and they started to sing during taxi (and in the check in queue as well!). It was a weird experience when the whole check in line started to sing (didn't know they where a choir at first). All in all, it was a funny thing. But I guess they sang better than the dudes mentioned in the article

- Smell.. tough one. Of course bad smell can be annoying. And we've banned smoking for that reason (among others). But can we ban people because they perspire? If a person smell that badly though I guess it has more to do with that persons relation to personal hygiene rather than if he/she had to run for the gate. I think it is hard... I mean, why draw the line there? I can think of perfumes (or excess use of them) that would be really annoying. And what about gases... hard to nail the guilty sometimes maybe.

- Wearing offensive t-shirt? Nah.. Everyone has the right to express themselves. And if it comes to that level where it is a crime to express such things (like being rasist or whatever is illegal) it's all about taking legal actions against that person no matter if they're flying or not. Reading the f* word seems particular chocking and offensive in some countries. I would personally offer the person the opportunity to covers herself/himself up if it was a truly offensive message.

- Same goes for being under dressed. Of course people need to dress themselves for the situation. It's ok with a bikini on the beach but not when sitting in a restaurant. But stretching the limits for dress codes, is it reason to throw people of planes? Not as a lone reason I think.

- Porn and sex. As said, there's a time and a place for everything. Agreed.

I would say that all those examples cannot be taken out of context. I would think that most of them are connected to more than breaking some code: arguing, not respecting other passengers or listening to the guidelines of the aircraft crew etc.

People are different.

[Edited 2008-03-17 04:22:43]


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User currently offlineHypersonic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5010 times:

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 14):
Another reason I believe is delicate but a true problem for people is being very oversized.

True, especially when the offensive odour isn't from stale armpits, but rather a pungent case of 'bum sweat'..
- Thats the worst - having to endure the stench of a greasy unwashed ass for a few hrs.... *Gag*

*grin* sorry, couldn't resist that one

[Edited 2008-03-17 04:46:57]

User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4188 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 14):
Too many times I have been sitting beside someone who smelt bad, but unfortunately I feel that in many cases it is something out of their own control. For instance, just think of those hot summer days, running from one terminal to the other, trying desperately to get to your gate on time (for example), or that you have just arrived from a 12 hour flight and doing the last leg of your journey, or simply -like I believe happens to many- you are terrified of flying and sweat like a pig.

Not to mention summer flights where you board and the airplane hasn't been kept cool while sitting for a few hours in the heat of Vegas or the heat and humidity (even worse!) of Florida...I'm particularly looking at YOU, American...while no one wants to sit next to the hygenically challenged, I usually do try to cut people a little slack on this one. It's actually more understandable than sitting next to someone who's bathed in cologne.

Quoting AF1624 (Reply 15):
What happens next ? You can't listen to rock n' roll music because it's considered deviant ?

Well, unless you really have the volume cranked the person next to you can't hear your rock, or rap, or whatever. On the other hand if you're reading Playboy and the centerfold falls open, it's there for eveyone to see, including any small children walking by. While I defend the rights of publishers here, I just don't see the need to sell porn (hardcore or softcore) in airports or permit it on planes. There's a time and a place, and a narrow, cramped little tube just isn't it.


User currently offlineAS777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4001 times:



Quoting Hypersonic (Reply 18):
True, especially when the offensive odour isn't from stale armpits, but rather a pungent case of 'bum sweat'..
- Thats the worst - having to endure the stench of a greasy unwashed ass for a few hrs.... *Gag*

Dude,
I think I just threw up in my mouth!  yuck  That was funny though!

I agree with the list, there is a time and place for everything. Sure everyone has rights etc...but it's all about respect. I would understand if you were in a more "open" area/space. But you are on a plane....can't get in a much more confined space with no possible hope for leaving at will.

Here comes the conservative out in me......if everyone respected everyone, the world would be a better place!  crazy 


User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

For me the porn thing is a no brainer. In most places it is an offense to show minors pornography and an aircraft cabin is definitely a public place.

We're probably going to agree to disagree on the singing one, but I wonder about why the other passengers are traveling. After all, they could be going to a funeral, rushing home to a sick partner. Why should they have to endure that?



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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3496 times:



Quoting AF1624 (Reply 15):
You should be able to wear whatever you like, however you like it. If you look like an ass, it's your problem, not the airline's. As long as you can't see genitals, it's alright with me.

Uhm...so bikinis and speedos are acceptable attire?

-IR


User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3481 times:



Quoting IRelayer (Reply 22):
Uhm...so bikinis and speedos are acceptable attire?

Depends on the bodyfat percentage of the wearer...  Silly


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