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AC//TLV - Return Of The "Old" Schedule  
User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

With the 767-300XM project nearing completion, YYZ-TLV will be returning to its "old"/original schedule effective on June 1st, 2008. The schedule was altered over the last couple of years to maximize aircraft utilization during the refurbishment process.

AC084 YYZ2355 TLV1750 (+1) - Effective June 1
AC085 TLV0020 YYZ0545 - Effective June 2

This will enable same day connections to/from TLV from the vast majority of AC's network.


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User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Is AC reverting to a daily YYZ-TLV flight during the summer, and 4 times a week during the winter?

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Hmmm...one of the few connection options for SAN travellers at YYZ!  Wink


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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2150 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
Hmmm...one of the few connection options for SAN travellers at YYZ!

Unfortunately YYZ/SAN is being scaled back to weekend only service this summer. I just don't get it!!


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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2085 times:



Quoting IAD380 (Reply 1):
Is AC reverting to a daily YYZ-TLV flight during the summer, and 4 times a week during the winter?

Actually daily during the summer season, and 5 times weekly during the winter


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1960 times:

On a side note, is YYZ-TLV mostly O&D, or does it have a large amount of connections?


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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1884 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5):
On a side note, is YYZ-TLV mostly O&D, or does it have a large amount of connections?

Vast numbers of connections which were minimized by the revised daytime flights. Very significant numbers of connections from the US as well as Mexico (MEX & CUN) and surprisingly Costa Rica (SJO). With a midnight departure to/from TLV, virtually every AC city is within same day connection range.


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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1871 times:



Quoting FLYACYYZ (Thread starter):
With the 767-300XM project nearing completion,

what is this project? Can you please tell me about it.

User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 782 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1855 times:



Quoting FLYACYYZ (Thread starter):
AC084 YYZ2355 TLV1750 (+1) - Effective June 1
AC085 TLV0020 YYZ0545 - Effective June 2

What's (mildly) funny is that CO uses 84 and 85 for EWR-TLV, though that's the daylight rotation for CO.

User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

What about connections for the sizeable number of passengers who are travelling between TLV and YUL? Do YUL passengers "bactrack" to YYZ to connect to TLV, or does AC rely on its Star Alliance partner for connections in FRA or ZRH?

User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1832 times:



Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 7):
what is this project? Can you please tell me about it.

"XM" or extreme makeover refers to the the refurbishment of AC's existing fleet to include new seating, new interiors, and Audio Video on Demand on every aircraft in the mainline fleet.

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 8):
What's (mildly) funny is that CO uses 84 and 85 for EWR-TLV, though that's the daylight rotation for CO.

What's also a coincidence is that for years AC & TW shared the same flight numbers as well (884/885) departing at virtually identical hours.


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2104 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1807 times:



Quoting IAD380 (Reply 9):
What about connections for the sizeable number of passengers who are travelling between TLV and YUL? Do YUL passengers "bactrack" to YYZ to connect to TLV, or does AC rely on its Star Alliance partner for connections in FRA or ZRH?

This depends on availability / fares etc. All options are used and if on an AC ticket you could even combine and fly YUL-ZRH-TLV-YYZ-YUL for instance.

User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1783 times:



Quoting IAD380 (Reply 9):
What about connections for the sizeable number of passengers who are travelling between TLV and YUL? Do YUL passengers "bactrack" to YYZ to connect to TLV, or does AC rely on its Star Alliance partner for connections in FRA or ZRH?

"backtrack" is such a bizarre concept in relation to YUL pax transiting via YYZ. It's about 200 miles away and an hour flight. Imagine how many. many pax in various US airlines "backtrack" so much more significantly to fly via major hubs like ORD, CLT, PHL, ATL, DFW, PHX, SLC, MIA etc etc.

A YUL passenger going to TLV could take any one of the hourly/half hourly flights from YUL to YYZ, minimize connection time to the least possible waiting time, then go non stop YYZ TLV. Compare that to flying via LHR or FRA or CDG, and you can be almost certain waiting and transit times will be longer, together with longer combined flight times.

User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Why most of the non stops between TLV and NorthAm are red eye while the ones from nearby AMM or CAI are not?


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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

What's that 767-300XM ?!

User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1601 times:



Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 14):
What's that 767-300XM ?!

I asked the same question earlier, and here's the answer:

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 10):

"XM" or extreme makeover refers to the the refurbishment of AC's existing fleet to include new seating, new interiors, and Audio Video on Demand on every aircraft in the mainline fleet

Cheers
CO7e7

User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1595 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 13):

CAI from YUL are Red eyes in the summer...

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2104 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1581 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 13):
Why most of the non stops between TLV and NorthAm are red eye while the ones from nearby AMM or CAI are not?

The red eyes out of TLV are more popular than day flights. On day flights especially business people loose a whole day of work. Whereas the night flights are long enough 11 -12 hours airborne to get a good nights sleep and arrive the next morning having an entire day ahead of you and of course connecting flights. LY used to charge higher fares for their red eyes out of TLV compared to it's day flights not sure if they still do that. Hence all other carriers flying between Israel and North America offer a red eye if they only have one daily service. CO has a day flight in addition to it's red eye and AC used to do also only fly red eyes out of TLV and as mentioned in the thread will do so again soon.

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