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Coast To Coast Non-stop In A Twin?  
User currently offlineUAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

I heard from someone that there is a plane here in the states that can fly coast to coast non-stop burning 8gal/hr of desiel. Its suposedly a twin also. anyone ever heard of this? I havent and I did some looking around and found nothing.


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3090 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

http://www.diamond-air.at/da42_twin_star+M52087573ab0.html


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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 811 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

A little bit off topic.. but has anyone done this in a turboprop? Conquest II (C441) flying eastwards perhaps?


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User currently offlineUAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Thanks for the post but I know about the twinstar. but they said non-stop. the twinstar cant do that. But Its supposed to be american made.


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User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

The Twin Star has flown nonstop from St. John's, Newfoundland, to Porto, Portugal, a distance of 1906nm. It seems reasonable it could do LAX-JFK, at 2151nm, with favorable winds. This would of course have to be flown at a very slow speed for best range.

The Twin Star has components manufactured in Austria and is assembled in London, Ontario, Canada.

Edit: The Twin Star is the only twin I know of that has diesel engines, though it is only certified to burn Jet A in North America.

[Edited 2008-03-17 16:47:10]


You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offlineFerrypilot From New Zealand, joined Sep 2006, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3280 times:



Quoting A346Dude (Reply 4):
The Twin Star has flown nonstop from St. John's, Newfoundland, to Porto, Portugal, a distance of 1906nm. It seems reasonable it could do LAX-JFK, at 2151nm, with favorable winds. This would of course have to be flown at a very slow speed for best range.

The standard factory aeroplane does not have that kind of range. So it would have required an additional and non standard ferry tank fitted inside the cabin to have flown St. Johns to Porto.


User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3216 times:



Quoting Ferrypilot (Reply 5):
The standard factory aeroplane does not have that kind of range. So it would have required an additional and non standard ferry tank fitted inside the cabin to have flown St. Johns to Porto.

http://www.diamond-air.at/news_detail+M51a9d9ae970.html

The aircraft completed the flight using 72 gallons; long range tanks hold 78. It did have an additional 26 gallon ferry tank, which would have been necessary had it continued on to Toulouse as planned.

Without the extra weight of 26 gallons of ferry fuel, I think it is quite possible the Twin Star could make LAX-JFK nonstop with long range tanks only.



You know the gear is up and locked when it takes full throttle to taxi to the terminal.
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
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Quoting UAL727NE (Thread starter):
I heard from someone that there is a plane here in the states that can fly coast to coast non-stop burning 8gal/hr of desiel. Its suposedly a twin also.

This one?


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User currently offlineFerrypilot From New Zealand, joined Sep 2006, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3079 times:



Quoting A346Dude (Reply 6):
The aircraft completed the flight using 72 gallons; long range tanks hold 78. It did have an additional 26 gallon ferry tank, which would have been necessary had it continued on to Toulouse as planned.

Apparently he cruised with only 42% power. ...which is a very low power setting. I'd have to think he had a good tailwind as well.

I ferried a Da42 Twin Star from Phoenix to Munich in Germany in July 2007 ...But I only had standard 52 gallon tanks and so I refuelled numerous times including in Canada,Greenland, Iceland and Scotland.

..."It is a pretty cool and very efficient plane"
and that is certainly the lowest amount of fuel I have ever set off across the ocean with, but I was able to fly all the sectors with quite comfortable reserves.


User currently offlineUAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2803 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 7):
This one?

No its not that one. Myabe the guy is confused and is thinking of the Twin Star. Thanks for all your replies.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2799 times:



Quoting A346Dude (Reply 4):

Edit: The Twin Star is the only twin I know of that has diesel engines, though it is only certified to burn Jet A in North America.

Since Jet A and Diesel are essentially the same thing, and since most FBOs don't carry diesel, it makes sense.



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User currently offlineFerrypilot From New Zealand, joined Sep 2006, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Here is a cool photo of the Twin Star :-

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