Parisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 819 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16004 times:
He said that the seat is wider and there is more pitch by a couple inches compared to "conventional" jumbos....heu, I think yes the seats could be wider, but is that exact what he said about SQ having more pitch in Y seats on these planes ? I doubt it, having read the trip reports from earlier flights (SYD)...
Sh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15981 times:
Very nice A380 clip.... I love that unmarried guy who admits he enjoys blowing al his hard earned cash on a "Luxury hobby" . He will have the same 1F seat for the first Tokyo trip.
Why cant any American carriers order that plane? For the love of God! The USA has 300 million people, some airline should be able use it on their best routes. How could UA or Northwest not make more money on their 747 routes with 20% more business seats while using 20% less fuel? Shouldn't UA and NW phase out sell their 747s to be converted into freighters and get new more efficient planes?
Workflyer From New Zealand, joined Dec 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15829 times:
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 9): Hi lads! Can you help a poor French struggling to understand Shakespeare's language? I just did not understand his last sentence: "why in such a huge airplane does the ... have to be so small?".
Loo = toilet
Further to the comment on the USA having 300 million people - How many hold passports and travel longhaul? That may be the determinant as to why no US carriers have picked up the A380.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21311 posts, RR: 60 Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15624 times:
Now that guy in 1F is a REAL A380 fan. Been on the first flight of each A380 route, paying for R class!
Man has his priorities right!!!
Though the report is pretty good, there is minor misinformation:
-There are not 2" more seat width nor 2" more legroom in the A380 Y section v. on a "conventional" jumbo. Compared to the 744 SQ flies, the seat pitch is the same and the width is 1.5" wider. Compared to the 77W (which as big as the "original" jumbo), the seats are the same. And seat pitch is a product of the airline, not the plane. NZ has 2" more seat pitch on their 744 than SQ has on their A380, for example. But seat width IS the product of the plane, and there, there is no doubt that the A380 wins against a 744, and has the potential for 2" more room. Just SQ chose to only give 1.5" to match the 77W so they have a consistent product on their new long haul fleet.
-The roominess of J has nothing to do with the plane, but the seat, available on the 77W as well. Now, if they had placed the J cabin on the super wide main deck, then yes, you could put the widest J seats in history. But they have it on the upper deck, a deck narrower than a 747 or a 777, with lower ceilings.
-The "loos" don't HAVE to be so small. That's SQ's choice. If QF, for example, chooses, they can make their A380 have very large loos. I enjoyed the large toilet on the QF 744ER. I also like the large toilets on the CO777, at least the larger ones (they have smaller ones and larger ones). Makes changing your clothes much easier.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4104 posts, RR: 52 Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 15536 times:
Unfortunately bigger toilets would often mean less space for seats or less space for galley placement resulting again in less seats. Less seats= less revenue. If this wasn't the case i'm sure there'd be wierd and wonderful wonders like a dog grooming parlour onboard but sadly that is not the case.
Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
N174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14427 times:
Quoting Workflyer (Reply 10): How many hold passports and travel longhaul? That may be the determinant as to why no US carriers have picked up the A380.
Fortunately/unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, only about 15-20% of U.S. residents hold a passport. Do I want Bubba from rural Alabama to make an ass of our country in Berlin? No...some people really shouldn't travel overseas....Given the exchange rate against the (enter currency here) these days, those that DO travel, probably will put off a trip overseas. Myself included. I had hoped to go to Italy or Germany this year, now I'm hoping for next year.
While I agree with you 100%, the other answer is the alliances U.S. carriers have with foreign airlines. For example, if I fly UA all the time, I could ride on an A380 with partner LH or SQ. Same with an AA loyal flier using QF to SYD. So from that perspective, a U.S. carrier could avoid the cost of owning/leasing the A380, yet still sell tickets on it and earn codeshare revenue through it's partner airlines that do operate it.
Ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12774 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13): Compared to the 744 SQ flies, the seat pitch is the same and the width is 1.5" wider.
Close sources actually tell me, and also having flown on both the aircraft with Singapore Airlines, I must say that the seat pitch is actually larger and you can tell the difference. The seat width is also larger, no doubt about that. Close sources state that the seat pitch on the Boeing 747 is 32inches and Airbus 380 is 34 inches similar to the rest of the 777 fleet (or at least the 300ER version anyway). All 777 have at least 33 inches of seat pitch
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13): NZ has 2" more seat pitch on their 744 than SQ has on their A380
I don't know about this, so NZ has 36 inches of seat-pitch?
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13): The roominess of J has nothing to do with the plane, but the seat, available on the 77W as well.
Hmmm, on the first flight in October, I asked a person who was sitting in Business Class and he said that the Airbus 380 seat is actually wider than the 300ER of Singapore Airlines
Parisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 819 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 12524 times:
Quoting comment : Airbus 380 is 34 inches similar to the rest of the 777 fleet
hm I don't believe this is the case. If it is, SQ would have marketed it loudly I am sure. MH has 34 inches ((777 and 747) but SQ is standard 32 inches (still other have standard of 31 even longhaul .....). But I guess the newer seat design should make a difference too despite the same pitch ?
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7454 posts, RR: 11 Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9791 times:
Quoting N174UA (Reply 15): Fortunately/unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, only about 15-20% of U.S. residents hold a passport.
Not any more. Remember that as of this year the US has made it mandatory to have a passport to travel anywhere outside of the country. That means all those people who previously didn't need a passport to travel to Mexico or the Caribbean, will now need one. But, I know what you meant