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Delta Adding Premium Seats In MOB Via CR9  
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

At current we have 1x MD88, 1x ATR, and 5x CRJ.

In mid-June, we will have 1x MD88, 2x CR9, 4x CRJ.

Looks like we lose our status as the only spoke in the network with mainline and turboprop service, but regain our 100% jet status!  Smile

In addition to the larger aircraft, we are also getting more first class seats (via the CR9), and three first class frequencies!

[Edited 2008-03-19 19:38:17]

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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

That's excellent news for MOB. The CR9 is a spectacular aircraft, and SkyWest really provides excellent service.


Good goes around!
User currently offlineRb211 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 632 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

So we finally got rid of the ATR service and going all jet. Cool!! But it seems like we're holding on for dear life to the one morning/ one evening md-88 flight With PNS and GPT only 40-50 minutes away, it's amazing we get to keep it. (It'll probably be gone soon too.) And while it's great to be getting the CR9, I can't help but remember when there was no DL connection into Bates Field, just straight mainline. Aah those were the days.  weeping 


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User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2808 times:



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 1):
SkyWest really provides excellent service

Given the recent trend in CR9 operations in ATL, this is likely to be a 9E route. Perhaps even OH or F8 before SkyWest. Could be wrong, just speculating =)


User currently offlinePHXmd80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2802 times:



Quoting Rb211 (Reply 2):
It'll probably be gone soon too

I can see DL getting rid of the md-88 with these new premium seats. There is no need for them to stick around anymore.

PHXmd80


User currently offlineDLCnxgptjax From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2789 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 3):
Given the recent trend in CR9 operations in ATL, this is likely to be a 9E route. Perhaps even OH or F8 before SkyWest. Could be wrong, just speculating =)

According to Delta.com the flights will be operated by SKW.

Quoting PHXmd80 (Reply 4):
I can see DL getting rid of the md-88 with these new premium seats. There is no need for them to stick around anymore.

I think the same can be said for GPT. Minus the additional premium seats. I guess we'll just have to sit back and see what the future holds.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2767 times:



Quoting Rb211 (Reply 2):
So we finally got rid of the ATR service and going all jet. Cool!! But it seems like we're holding on for dear life to the one morning/ one evening md-88 flight With PNS and GPT only 40-50 minutes away, it's amazing we get to keep it. (It'll probably be gone soon too.) And while it's great to be getting the CR9, I can't help but remember when there was no DL connection into Bates Field, just straight mainline. Aah those were the days.

Glad to see the new jets into MOB. Wonder how traffic is doing year-over-year?

I remember when it was all mainline with Southern to BHM, BNA, ATL, MEM, GPT, etc. Eastern had PNS & ATL (sometimes a BHM flt), and National flew 727's to MSY, PNS & IAH.



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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2693 times:



Quoting PHXmd80 (Reply 4):

I can see DL getting rid of the md-88 with these new premium seats. There is no need for them to stick around anymore.

Unfortunately, I can too. I think the only reason we still have MD88s is so that we can have a front cabin. Since we've got two CR9s, this might spell the end of mainline service to MOB. I just hope not!

With our full summer schedule, MOB will have over 2,800 daily seats. If we maintain our LF around 75%, we'll have more than 766,500 passengers. That'll be an improvement over our just north of 600,000 last year.


User currently offlinePHXmd80 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

My aunt lives in TYS and I love going to visit her and seeing a big  Wink md-88 pull up to the terminal along with all this small crj's and prop's. Unfortunatly, I think mainline to TYS, MOB, and JAN are the next to go. I absolutly hate to see them go, but with fuel prices and other opportunities for those md-88's...

PHXmd80


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2584 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 3):
Given the recent trend in CR9 operations in ATL, this is likely to be a 9E route. Perhaps even OH or F8 before SkyWest. Could be wrong, just speculating =)

Nope, it's SkyWest, per delta.com



Good goes around!
User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2503 times:

I'm just curious...but why are so many people disappointed when their station loses mainline? Its one thing to lose it to all 50 seat RJ's, but CR7's and CR9's are far superior to an MD88. They are faster, burn less fuel, easier to service, no middle seats, and SkyWest certainly does offer a service comparable to that of mainline (but, generally speaking, with nicer and more attractive FA's). Still has first class, leather seats, and many roll aboards fit in the overhead of the CRJ series (I know this first hand because I put a 22" roll aboard into a CR2 overhead many times a day lol). When overhead space runs out on the RJ's, you can simply use the plane side valet service whereas the bag would be gate checked on a mainline flight.

I would much rather ride on a CR7, CR9, or E series over an MD88. Nothing like being stuck in the last row, middle seat of an 88 with no window and two incredibly loud, dated, medium bypass PW's right next to your ear.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, it just seems to me that the larger RJ's are a much better service than an MD88. Just curious why so many are bummed when an MD88 is replaced by a large RJ. Would love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks!


User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2488 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 10):

Well, I certainly agree with you to an extent. The air service is, many times, equal or better on CR9s. The DL CR7s do not have first class, but are overall very nice. The one serious drawback to losing mainline at your station is that it often means the loss of mainline employees at the station. For example, when DL switched BIL over to all SkyWest flights, SkyWest took over the ground-handling. There is a noticeable negative difference between the level of service at the airport now as compared to before.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2487 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 10):

While large RJs with a front cabin generally allow for greater frequency, becoming purely an express/connection station is still a psychological blow. In the eyes of an airline, you are no longer important enough to justify their allocation of resources. Additionally, until relatively recently, the loss of mainline meant no front cabin - period. That has changed and makes the situation slightly different, but the argument above still applies.


User currently offlineAznCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2405 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 3):
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 1):
SkyWest really provides excellent service

Given the recent trend in CR9 operations in ATL, this is likely to be a 9E route. Perhaps even OH or F8 before SkyWest. Could be wrong, just speculating =)

I thought SKW was pulling all their CR9 out of ATL......


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2357 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 10):
I would much rather ride on a CR7, CR9, or E series over an MD88. Nothing like being stuck in the last row, middle seat of an 88 with no window and two incredibly loud, dated, medium bypass PW's right next to your ear.

True, but chances are you would rarely if ever be in that seat (not that it CAN'T happen), and an MD88 in my opinion is more pleasant than 737 or 757 (I know you were comparing to RJ's). At least this plane has one side with only 2 seats in Economy.



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2304 times:



Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 13):
I thought SKW was pulling all their CR9 out of ATL......

Long-term, I believe that will certainly happen as they now have 9E and F8, so that they can put the CR9 on more routes out at SLC. However, short-term, they are still in ATL.



Good goes around!
User currently offlineRB211 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 632 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2265 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 10):
Just curious why so many are bummed when an MD88 is replaced by a large RJ. Would love to hear your thoughts!

Large RJ's aren't my problem, it's ATR's. But to answer your question, to me the fact is that you're not flying on a Delta a/c if you're on an RJ. You're flying on a connection carrier using their equipment.



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User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2242 times:



Quoting RB211 (Reply 16):
Large RJ's aren't my problem, it's ATR's.

I hate ATR's too. Can't wait until we get rid of those things. Nothing but maintenance hogs.

Quoting AznCSA4QF744ER (Reply 13):
I thought SKW was pulling all their CR9 out of ATL......

They are still holding on to their ATL base, and nothing official has been said about them completely leaving. I tend to think along the lines of Floridaflyboy...9E, OH, and F8 are ultimately going to replace SKW completely and they will be strictly west coast again. Would be a shame because I love non-reving on SKW as opposed to the others, and many of the cities I travel to are served with many CR9 frequencies.


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2237 times:



Quoting NW747-400 (Reply 10):
I'm just curious...but why are so many people disappointed when their station loses mainline? Its one thing to lose it to all 50 seat RJ's, but CR7's and CR9's are far superior to an MD88.

You do know its less seats, right? Thats usually the dissappointment.


User currently offlineNW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2192 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 18):
You do know its less seats, right? Thats usually the dissappointment.

Of course, I fly them for a living =)

I actually prefer fewer seats of the larger RJ's. Better chance of getting a seat at the gate, less time to board, less time to deplane, lower chance of having a screaming baby or angry drunk man on the flight, no middle seat, etc. Just my personal preference over an MD88.

From a pilot's prespective, the RJ's are a much nicer airplane to fly over an MD88 too (pay scales aside haha). A DL jumpseater once described the MD88 to me as "driving a dumptruck that needs a serious alignment. You have to fly it all the way to the gate."

I can't vouge for the E series, but the CR7/9 are very fast. An MD88 usually cruises in the .75-.77 range, while we always cruise at .80-.85. I like the extra speed.


User currently offlineFalconBird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2170 times:

Geez, I remember all those mainline days at KLEX. Eastern had 5-6 DC-9 and 727 flights to DCA, STL and ATL while Delta did 8 flights to CVG, ORD, ATL, TYS, CHA with 727's and DC-9's. Piedmont did 5-6 flights using YS-11's and 737's to TRI, CVG, SDF, ROA and DCA, while Allegheny (USAir) did 3 flights to PIT using DC-9's and BAC-111's which were always full. Regional aircraft were never even thought of back in the 60's, 70's and 80's.


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2166 times:



Quoting FalconBird (Reply 20):
Regional aircraft were never even thought of back in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Allegheny reached an agreement with Henson to operate as Allegheny Commuter way back in 1967.



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User currently offlineFalconBird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2158 times:

This is true as Henson became one of the first in the northeast area, but not around here. Air Kentucky and Tennessee Airlines were the first commuter type to visit Lexington with Beech-99's and C-404 aircraft.


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