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Emirates Launches World's First Mobile Phone Sys  
User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3967 times:

Emirates has launched the World's First Mobile Phone Inflight Service:

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10198900.html


Who else was working on this? I thought Virgin was working on it as well?

Let's wait and see the costs of this service

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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2990 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3875 times:
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I thought Air France was already running cell phones in flight on the A319LRs?

Ryanair was also looking into it.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8861 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3803 times:



Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 1):
I thought Air France was already running cell phones in flight on the A319LRs?

You are correct, the AF one is the OnAir (SITA/Airbus) product ( http://www.onair.aero ) and the EK one the AeroMobile (ARINC/Telenor) product ( http://www.aeromobile.net/ )

http://www.onair.aero/admin/fil/AF%2...nAir%2020%20Dec%202007%20FINAL.pdf



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

I am just happy I don't have to fly to DXB anymore.
I will make sure I avoid EK in the future.
Very sad for an airline once excellent.
Just imagine an A380 with half of the passengers talking on their mobiles at the same time !!!
Teva



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3658 times:



Quoting Teva (Reply 3):
I am just happy I don't have to fly to DXB anymore.
I will make sure I avoid EK in the future.
Very sad for an airline once excellent.
Just imagine an A380 with half of the passengers talking on their mobiles at the same time !!!

I agree. You'll be wishing you were flying on a loud 77W in the back once you hear every conversation in every language on the quiet A380...

But lucky for me, I use earplugs and then put headphones over that. I hear NUSSINK!



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User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3453 times:



Quoting Teva (Reply 3):

The cabin crew will have the ability to control the system, including restricting phone times (e.g., night flights). Also, only 5-6 calls will be able to occur at once, the same number allowed on the plane's phones. For the 267 passengers on board the flight, that difference is negligible, IMO.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26845 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3435 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 5):
The cabin crew will have the ability to control the system, including restricting phone times (e.g., night flights). Also, only 5-6 calls will be able to occur at once, the same number allowed on the plane's phones. For the 267 passengers on board the flight, that difference is negligible, IMO.

OMG I can just see it now..... bleep bleep bleep while everyone tries to manually select the network and try to get a line out . Then if its switched off at night there will be some who 100% have to make the emergency calls to their stock brokers ..... a new reason for air rage !!!


User currently offlineAerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

I for one will do my level best to avoid carriers who provide this disservice.

User currently offlineRamzi From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

How about trying it once... you'll either regret it and never do it again or you'll find that there in fact exist some airlines that are NOT run by idiots meaning the crew will be able to control this service...

Soon enough this will likely be a normal service on all aircraft, if it is that horrible they wont let it go this far.

Personally I'm indifferent, if it gets annoying I'll put the headphones on, which to me makes a lot more sense than not flying an airline anymore.



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User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 258 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3202 times:
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Airbus installed the system on AFR A318 MSN 3009 since December 2007.

I believe that QFA has also installed a similar system on their own on their 767s as far as I am aware, so UAE is hardly the first one.

TAP and BMA will be the next ones later this year on Airbus A320 Family.



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

It will be hell. I'm ok with it on FR as most of the flights are little hops, none of which are overnights/redeyes. You just know people will insist on having their latest SMS tone, and ringtone on full blast. And these IDIOTS who have the key tones on full blast, tapping away all night long. I see air-rage increasing. It's bad enough on a subway train, never mind a plane, on a long haul flight!

User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Something that REALLY impressed me last time I took a long train ride in the UK is the 'quiet coach' where pax can sit to escape the menace of ringtones and shouted monologue. For me, one of the treasures of air travel is that moment when the crew announce that mobile phones must be switched off.

I imagine there will be some smart marketing from EK's competitors offering a quieter inflight product.


User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 762 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3060 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
hen if its switched off at night there will be some who 100% have to make the emergency calls to their stock brokers ..... a new reason for air rage !!!

Aren't there currently phones onboard? Some airlines do even have personal phones installed on business class seats, so I don't see any reason to panic.

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 1):
Ryanair was also looking into it.

And people won't use it unless they choose not to read the fine print with the fares. I guess It will cost about the same as on cruise ships. And it's not particularly cheap (6€/min).

Quoting Sevenair (Reply 10):
You just know people will insist on having their latest SMS tone, and ringtone on full blast

These devices can be programmed to block incoming calls at certain hours, or even block both incoming and outgoing calls. The "you can now switch on for phones" speech could be improved by adding "and remember to keep them on vibrate mode".

It's not going to be the end of the world. But it seems it's going to be the end of everyone's peace of mind as I read above.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3012 times:



Quoting Aisak (Reply 12):
Aren't there currently phones onboard? Some airlines do even have personal phones installed on business class seats, so I don't see any reason to panic.

Yes, EK have it in every seat in Y even.

I don't think this will be a problem at all. Prices will be in the same range as airphones, and when is the last time you saw someone use that? I have never seen that.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

It would be better to increase the seat-pitch in Y class rather than allowing passengers using their mobiles- once you know how dangerous mobile-phones are,you'd better sit in a plane without mobile-radiation during 12 hours ..
For me the inflight-use of mobiles is a very bad choice in aviation !



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

I hope the airlines will charge a dissuasive fee for using this service. Seeing the way most people are using their cell phones it will be no different up in the air than it is on the ground. For me it's a definite no-no.

I don't see why us passengers who want to have a quiet time (at least as much as we can) on the flights we should be forced to accept any of the cell phone blah-blah on board. It will be awful. I suppose the non-users will also be exposed to the radiations if cell phones are being used inflight.

Let's see now. Will they have the passengers using cell phones put in the back of the plane and us non-users in the front? We we will not be obligated to seat near them are we?

So who is the next airline to open their flights to cell phone use after Emirates?  Angry



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2850 times:



Quoting Aisak (Reply 12):
These devices can be programmed to block incoming calls at certain hours, or even block both incoming and outgoing calls. The "you can now switch on for phones" speech could be improved by adding "and remember to keep them on vibrate mode".

Yes, but that is not going to stop the ringtones, and you just know people wont heed this advice. How many people listen to the crew announcements as it is? Every time I fly, I always see cabin crew asking people to either; fasten their seatbelts; put their seatback upright; close their tables; and even to sit back down after standing up on the runway after landing. So I guess people will not take notice of this.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2828 times:



Quoting EK156 (Thread starter):
Emirates has launched the World's First Mobile Phone Inflight Service:

Is this another instance of EK claiming a world first that isn't? I understand the new Dubai mindset of "first or biggest" but shouldn't the claims be truthful?



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User currently onlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

I know the Qantas one (which has been in test mode for the past 2 years i think and announced yesterday lol!) will not have the voice call facility activated it will only be for SMS and emails from equipped devices makes sense to me! so long as everyone has their phone on silent, an easy request to make!
Will EK do the same?


User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

I think people's reaction to mobile phone use is a culturally sensitive issue. On average (there are always exceptions!) Anglo pax will anger quite quickly and 'air rage' is bound to increase. Gulf arabs don't seem to be quite so sensitive to cellphone chatter - or at least that's the impression I get. The yappiest, noisiest, ringtoniest mobile phone users are without question the PRC Chinese and I dearly hope that EK's idea doesn't spread among China domestic carriers...

User currently offlineAirbuske From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2625 times:

Simple solution would be to have different Phonecall/No Phonecall cabins

User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2542 times:
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IMO, this service is not needed. If someone needs to communicate with someone else, then use email (if that is available), not a damn phone. Otherwise wait until you've landed. Of course there are exceptions, a medical emergency and needing to speak with a Doctor for example.

Last Sept I flew EK DXB-JFK-DXB in J. Each way, I sat by someone yakking on their cell phone about nothing and EACH time the F/A had to come by and ask them to put their cell phones away. And as soon as the wheels touched down, out came the phones, while we were still on the active runway! And these people were not speaking in low tones.

Now matter how it is controlled, there will be abuses. It's human nature.

Give us a break, please!

F



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10875 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Now if airlines really want to have their passengers using cell phones up in the air, I hope they will at least think of doing separate cabins, one for cell phone users (the back of the plane) and one for the non-users, let's say the front of the economy cabin.

I don't know how they will arrange this on tne flights. Maybe the whole business and first cabins will have an ok to use cell phones during flights. If Emirates does it then I suppose other airlines will start doing the same thing.

I can imagine a whole row of pax (or maybe even a whole cabin) each passenger talking to their cell phones. We are at a point where people talk to devices (their cell phones) but don't talk to other fellow humans anymore just like it is on the streets. The world has gone crazy!!

It will be a heck of a pain to have these ringtones constantly going off all over the aircrafts. This will be the end of flying!



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User currently offlineSpinner145 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

I for one will do everything I can to avoid flights where cell phone talking is allowed.

Just think of how annoying it is if you are in a restaurant and the person seated at the table across from you is gabbing on their phone at full volume. Now, imagine instead of a restaurant where there is a bit of distance between tables and where there may be a total of 40 people and where you will be for maybe 1 hour, you are instead crammed into economy class on a 10 hour trans-oceanic flight.  irked 

What's more, living in Asia, I can only imagine how awful it will be. The ringtones here are always loud Canto-pop (for example I always must remind my secretary to turn hers off at work), and conversation is always max volume. If any Cathay execs are reading this, please PLEASE do not let people start using their cell phones during flights!


User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Oh no! Don't cellular phones crash airliners??


A306, A313, A319, A320, A321, A332, A343, A345, A346 A388, AC90, B06, B722, B732, B733, B735, B738, B744, B762, B772, B7
25 Post contains images Leskova : I guess that gets taken care of by this comment... Ooohhh... scary stuff... 5-6 people amongst 250+ passengers... just imagine the volume... Seriousl
26 CXfirst : If they block incoming and outgoing calls, yes. That means there will be no service at that time, meaning no calls coming in. -CXfirst
27 Speedbird128 : haha, honestly - no I was not being serious. I know full well that cellular communications don't crash planes on the same basis you do. I lived in th
28 Post contains images Gr8Circle : So do EY..... Honestly, I think if the cost is kept a bit on the higher side, passengers will use it only if absolutely necessary, rather than just c
29 GFFgold : Could have been very useful for the 9-11 hijackers...
30 Airnewzealand : We have been trailing this at QF for teh last two years...hardly innovation on EK's part. We announced lat week it was to be fitted to ALL aircrafts.
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