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Skybus Reduces Flights GYY-GSO  
User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2547 times:

THIS WAS QUICK...

Quote:
GARY, Ind. (AP) — Less than a week after it began service to the Gary/Chicago International Airport, Skybus Airlines is cutting back on its flights.
Airline spokesman Bob Tenenbaum says they are reducing flights due to the high cost of fuel.


MORE ON SKYBUS: Airline pulling out of Chattanooga, scraps Niagara Falls

Skybus announced in January that it would offer morning and evening flights, seven days a week, between Gary and Piedmont Triad International Airport near Greensboro, North Carolina, starting March 13.

The airline says that as of April 15, it will offer just one flight per day. Passengers will reservations on the canceled flights will able to change their reservations.


When Skybus began flights last week, they were the first regularly scheduled flights at the Gary airport in nearly a year.





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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2545 times:

It would appear the Skybus Kool Aid is drying up quickly. BTW, you might want to post the source of your info.

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...08-03-20-skybus-cities_N.htm#Close

[Edited 2008-03-21 06:28:03]

User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2512 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 1):

The quote says its from the AP.

I think that GYY will be getting some Florida service in before long, maybe PSM or SWF, too.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2512 times:



Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 2):
The quote says its from the AP.

A link should always be provided.


User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2499 times:

I got it from USA Today. I'm sorry. Here is the link.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...c=interstitialskip&POE=click-refer

Desmond in ILM,



Desmond MacRae in ILM
User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2441 times:

High cost of fuel???? As though fuel only yestreday got expensive..more like lack of bookings

User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 2370 times:

Skybus better revamp the way they're doing things, or I'm afraid their future looks dismal.


  • Connections
  • Through flights to other destinations- ie GYY-GSO-FLL
  • Point to point flights to popular destinations (sorry, CMH and GSO aren't popular destinations.)



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User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

How many topics can a.net have that are about the same thing over and over on SX? This was talked about in the past two threads!

Geez people, wow SX stops a route that was not profitable and entire world ends and its posted 14 times on here. But UAL, or AA or any other carrier cancels a flight because of poor loads and not one single person talks about it.



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2323 times:
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Quoting Panaman (Reply 7):
But UAL, or AA or any other carrier cancels a flight because of poor loads and not one single person talks about it.

Show us some routes that have been flown for less than a week before they were pulled.


User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2243 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 6):
(sorry, CMH and GSO aren't popular destinations.)

Perhaps they are populous ORIGINS? Just a thought?

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 8):
Show us some routes that have been flown for less than a week before they were pulled.

Frequency has been reduced, the route has not been pulled. Other carriers do the same thing, occasionally not even flying at all if bookings are not there. (Legacies and G4) Also, Frequency was reduced within a month of GPT-ORD.


User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

The SX Cool-Aid Drinkers vs. Haters has gotten to the level of B6!  Wink A coworker just flew SX last week. She had a good experience particularly since she knew what she was going to get. The outbound flight was packed and return had only about 20 pax on board. Prudent route management is absolutely imperative these days.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
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Quoting ORDagent (Reply 10):
The SX Cool-Aid Drinkers vs. Haters has gotten to the level of B6! A coworker just flew SX last week. She had a good experience particularly since she knew what she was going to get. The outbound flight was packed and return had only about 20 pax on board. Prudent route management is absolutely imperative these days.

B6 level please. Though what I do find suprising is, just how quiet the SX cheerleaders are and not out putting a spin on this news.



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User currently offlineSacamojus From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2169 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 11):
Though what I do find suprising is, just how quiet the SX cheerleaders are and not out putting a spin on this news.

Ok I will. Management cannot remain static. They must always be looking for problems in their business, and must adjust the business as they see fit. Oil is probably the real reason as to why they are leaving. If they could get more money out of passengers to overcome the oil price then they would keep the route. When managers make strategic moves such as opening a route they must look at the projected revenues and costs. If something changes then they must decide on the next course of action. Fuel cost went up probably unexpectedly in their equation and now they are making moves that are in the best interest of the organization. There you have it.

I am neither a cheerleader nor a hater, but I do appreciate that Skybus is trying something new and is bringing low cost service to cities and individuals that will probably never see legacy or LCC airlines. Isn't it true that the LCC's like Southwest, FL, B6, and other will not enter into certain cities based on population or projected demand? Then those cities are left with crappy RJ service at ridicolous prices or no service at all. I applaud Skybus.


User currently offlinePanaman From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2123 times:



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 8):
Show us some routes that have been flown for less than a week before they were pulled

How many routes has Allegiant Air started and cancelled? Before they flew them?



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2122 times:



Quoting Panaman (Reply 13):
How many routes has Allegiant Air started and cancelled? Before they flew them?

LAS-BTR for one...


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2099 times:



Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 12):
Skybus is trying something new and is bringing low cost service to cities and individuals that will probably never see legacy or LCC airlines. Isn't it true that the LCC's like Southwest, FL, B6, and other will not enter into certain cities based on population or projected demand?

Huh? Southwest was and is the largest carrier at CMH, with about 20% of the market. They already offered inexpensive non-stop, direct, or connecting service to many of the areas SX claims to serve. There's a reason why SX didn't add CMH-GYY -- because WN already flies CMH-MDW several times daily. Southwest was already the largest carrier at several of the airports selected by SX -- FLL, MCI, BUR, OAK, SAN -- or already served airports within 50 miles or so of many of the other airports chosen by SX -- PSM/MHT, CEF/BDL, PGD/RSW, UST/JAX, GYY/MDW, ILG/PHL.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2082 times:



Quoting ScottB (Reply 15):
Southwest was already the largest carrier at several of the airports selected by SX -- FLL, MCI, BUR, OAK, SAN -- or already served airports within 50 miles or so of many of the other airports chosen by SX -- PSM/MHT, CEF/BDL, PGD/RSW, UST/JAX, GYY/MDW, ILG/PHL.

While I'm too lazy to look up the other numbers right now, at least two of the airports on your list (PHL and JAX) have carriers larger than WN; NK is probably the largest carrier at FLL as well, and YX and WN are very close in size at MCI.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1975 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 16):
While I'm too lazy to look up the other numbers right now, at least two of the airports on your list (PHL and JAX) have carriers larger than WN; NK is probably the largest carrier at FLL as well, and YX and WN are very close in size at MCI.

You're correct about FLL; Spirit passed Southwest in 2007, though Southwest is still the market share leader at FLL domestically. MCI isn't even close; Southwest is three times the size of Midwest at MCI.

The second list of airports I only mentioned as already being served by WN, not as having WN as their largest carrier (that would only be true of JAX, MDW & MHT, though WN & DL are extremely close at BDL).


User currently offlineSacamojus From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1925 times:



Quoting ScottB (Reply 15):
Huh? Southwest was and is the largest carrier at CMH, with about 20% of the market. They already offered inexpensive non-stop, direct, or connecting service to many of the areas SX claims to serve. There's a reason why SX didn't add CMH-GYY -- because WN already flies CMH-MDW several times daily. Southwest was already the largest carrier at several of the airports selected by SX -- FLL, MCI, BUR, OAK, SAN -- or already served airports within 50 miles or so of many of the other airports chosen by SX -- PSM/MHT, CEF/BDL, PGD/RSW, UST/JAX, GYY/MDW, ILG/PHL.


Somebody please post of list of cities that Skybus serves that has no to very little service, especially LCC service. I will start with the first one, SGJ.


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