AirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1 Posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6022 times:
I need a review of all charter airlines, charter flights routing and pictures (if you can) of charter flights Intra-European and from Europe to other continents in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Just like pop music, those decades were my kind of airline hobby activities.
I need the name of the airline, charter route, type of aircraft used, year or decade of service. Military charter flights also appreciated. Also include scheduled airlines but mention only their charter flights. I appreciate if you can also post the pictures of the aircraft for additional ecstasy and your brief trip report. Schedules/timetables also appreciated.
Example of a charter airline route: Condor 747-100 Frankfurt-Las Palmas in the 70s. Can someone post a pic of Condor 741 as I don't have the time to do it. Thanks.
Example of a scheduled airline with a charter flight: KLM 747 (200?) AMS-Las Palmas but was diverted to Santa Cruz de Tenerife meeting its unfortunate demise with an equally chartered scdheduled carrier PA 747 from DTW?
Example of a military charter flight: Aer Lingus 747-100 Dublin-Beirut transported troops during the Labenese civil war in mid-70s. Can someone post a pic of EI (or IN) 741? Thanks.
Mmm not sure thats the best way of requesting info.
You are going to be overwhelmed with info for this, far to much than you'l be able to handle I expect. When you think the likes of Britannia Airways in the UK alone operated from 23 UK airports to over 200 European and other destinations the list of routes is going to be endless. The German charter airlines will be the same.
I can think of one poster who is going to absolutely love this topic......
AirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5973 times:
Hello BY738, Thanks for the comments. How about just the intercontinental charter routes of BY and the type of aircraft used? I should not be overwhelmed as this is my hobby.
Thanks again.
Scooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1155 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5866 times:
These airplanes became a familiar winter-sight in Scandinavia in the early 60s, transporting sun-hungry people to destinations in Spain and the Canary Islands:
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5762 times:
I wouldnt know were to start. Mentioning the Infamous Dan Air who in the 70s and 80s were very active in the holiday charter business and Court Line in the 70s, Britains biggest charter airline till it went bust in 1974. There were litreally hundreds of charter airlines in the Uk during the decades of the 60s, 70s and 80s, so many, some like Amberair, or Peach Air not lasting very long.
Perhaps each airliners member could contribute info on their countries charter airlines. EG, some Finnish member could talk about Kar Air, its route and equipment etc. Otherwise their is too much to cover. I couldnt possible cover all the Uk charter airlines as there were so many and I have so much info on each and everyone of them.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7145 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5759 times:
Lionair operating for TransJamaican Airlines and International Carribbean in 1987/88 from MAN to the Caribbean using 747s. Orion Air (not to be confused with the similarly named British airline) operated to MCO from MAN around the same time with 747s.
AY operated weekly summer HEL-MAN on behalf of Kar Air (mostly DC9s). Winter 1987 saw LTU operate MUC-MAN charters with 757s.
Eastern European operaters at MAN included LO (Tu134 and IL18) to WAW, RO (Tu154, IL62 and occasionally IL18 and 707) to Constanta and Bucharest, SU (Tu134, Tu154 and occasional IL62) to Moscow and LZ (Tu134 and Tu154) to Varna, Bourgas, Sofia and Plovdiv. AT Yugoslav Airlines">JU operated on behalf of Air Jugoslavia (mostly DC9) to various Yugoslav cities.
For Africa, MAN had operations by TU (737s) to Monastir and Tunis, and AT (727, 737 and 757) to Agadir in the 1980s.
Aircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1419 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5715 times:
There was this Air Charter subsidiary of AF and IT in the '80s. They flew to YMX using AF metal. It was meant to be economical... and, well, it became cheap! I remember, one day in July 1983, boarding at YMX, bound for CDG, and we had to take our lunches before boarding, from a kind of rolling rack, close to the entrance of the mobile lounges! In the flight, at the signal, we would help ourselves to our meals, and finally FAs would simply take the rubbish after all was eaten.
That made some kind of a small scandal in Montréal, and, guess what, when we came back, end of August, the meal service was "back to normal" (I don't remember if it was hot meals or cold ones, though)
... And now, on AC's domestic flights (and many others in North America), one's got to pay for a sandwich!...
(sidenote: at the same time, on Air Inter, newspapers and mineral water were free; I used to enjoy very much reading Le Canard Enchaîné, drinking a Perrier! Now, on FR, one's got to pay for water...)
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21492 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5541 times:
Many Canadian carriers have operated extensive charter services between Canada and Europe in the past.
Wardair had major charter operations between Canada and the UK and other countries in Europe in the 60s/70s/80s, beginning with a DC-6B leased from Canadian Pacific, then one of the few 727s ever used on transatlantic services, followed by 707s, DC-10s and 747s.
CP Air, although a scheduled carrier, also had extensive charter services between Canada and Europe. The UK was the major market since CP did not have scheduled traffic rights to the UK then. During the peak summer period in the 1970s/80s CP often had several charter flights a day to/from the UK in addition to their scheduled flights to other points in Europe.
Aircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1419 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5247 times:
Nordair is another canadian airline that went to Europe...
I don't know how to place pictures in here, but there are a few in the database... Although Nordair is not completely easy to find (not listed in the airlines)
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2091 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5217 times:
From my personal experience, my first flight was with British Airtours on an L1011 from LGW - NAP in October 1987. As a small kid, the return trip particularly was memorable as it was the time of the great hurricanes. We returned to LGW to find most of the airport in darkness, trees down everywhere and many of the BDC shuttle busses inop due to smashed windshields and so on.
My third flight was in December 1990, and we flew a ZB 752 (G-MONB I think it was) - STN - BGR - BGI. I was only 9 years old, but I dont think some of the adult pax were too comfortable after that flight.
My home town airport was LTN and until the arrival on U2 only 13 years ago, the majority of traffic was charters with ZB and BY mostly - as Orion737 says, even their ops from LTN alone are too numerous to list here. One of the more notable charters with BY from LTN was with a 732 to KUL via ZAG, DAM, DXB, KHI and BKK!! The 732 also went as far as HKG, CMB and BKK, I believe G-AWSY (I think ??? - Orion737...) was assigned to this service.
Other operators I can think of into LTN were Altair with Caravelle's to NAP during the 80's.
Yugoslavian charter operator Aviogenex was another common site at British airports in the 70's and 80's flying to Dubrovnik, Split and Pula for Yugotours.
UK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2550 posts, RR: 32 Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5190 times:
In the 1980s I remember the following charter carriers operating to/from the UK:
Britannia Airways (UK) now Thomsonfly.com
Orion Airways (UK) acquired by Britannia Airways in late 80s
Dan Air (UK) acquired by British Airways 1992
British Caledonian Charters (UK) renamed CalAir in mid 80s
CalAir (UK) renamed Novair in late 80s
Novair (UK) ceased operations around 1990
British Airtours (UK) renamed Caledonian Airways in late 1980s
Caledonian Airways (UK) merged with Flying Colours to become JMC Air in late 90s. JMC Air later renamed Thomas Cook Airlines
TEA (Trans European Airways) UK (UK) ceased operations around 1990/91
Air Europe (UK) ceased operations in 1991
British Island Airways (UK) ceased operations around 1991
Paramount Airways (UK) ceased operations around 1991
Amber Air acquired by Paramount Airways around 1989
Air UK Leisure (UK) acquired by Air 2000 in 1999
Air 2000 (UK) renamed First Choice Airways in early 2000s
Aviaco (Spain) acquired by Iberia in late 90s
CTA Espana (Spain) renamed Canafrica around 1986
Canafrica (Spain) renamed AirSur in late 80s
AirSur (Spain) ceased operations around 1990
Air Europa (Spain)
Hispania (Spain) ceased operations around 1989
JAT Yugoslav Airlines (Yugoslavia) now JAT Airways (Serbia)
Aviogenex (Yugoslavia) now operating from Serbia
Adria Airways (Yugoslavia) now the national airline of Slovenia
Balkan Bulgarian Airlines (Bulgaria) ceased operations in early 2000s
Air Atlantis (Portugal) ceased operations in late 90s
Wardair Canada (Canada) acquired by Canadian Airlines in 1989
Worldways (Canada) ceased operations in 1990
Odyessey International (Canada) ceased operations in 1990
Cyprus Airways (Cyprus)
Air Malta (Malta)
I realise there are many more but I think this covers a good number. It is amazing how many charter airlines had ceased to exist by the early 90s.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10): CP Air, although a scheduled carrier, also had extensive charter services between Canada and Europe. The UK was the major market since CP did not have scheduled traffic rights to the UK then. During the peak summer period in the 1970s/80s CP often had several charter flights a day to/from the UK in addition to their scheduled flights to other points in Europe.
My grandparents flew NCL-PIK-YYZ with CP Air in 1979. I beleive it was a DC-8 of some variant.
Air Inter, the former French domestic airline was operating some charter flights on behalf of Air Charter from Paris-ORLY to TFS (Tenerife ), ACE (Lanzarote) and PMI (Palma de Mallorca) using their A300.
Some charter flights were also operated to DBV, PMO, ATH, DJE, MIR
The UK: Britannia (B732,B762) - Monarch (B720,B752,B732,B733) - Dan Air (B721,B722,B732,B733,B734,A300,BAC1-11) - British Islands Airways (MD83, BAC1-11) - Orion Airways (B733) - Calair & Novair (DC10,B734).
The Dutch: Transavia (B732,B733) - Martinair (B742,A310,MD82,DC10) - Air Holland (B752, B733).
The Belgians: Sobelair (B707,B732,B733) - Air Belgium (B733) - Luxair out of LUX (B732) - TEA (B707,B732,B733,A300)
The Scandinavians: Conair (B720,A300,A310 wet leased from SABENA) - Sterling (SE210,B722,DC8) - Scanair (DC8,DC10,A300) - Finnair (DC9, MD8?, A300 of Karair) - Braathens (B732,B734,B762).
The French: Air Inter (A300) - Air Charter (B722,B732,SE210,A300) - Euralair (B732) - Europe Aero Service (SE210), Minerve & Jet Alsace (DC8,MD83) - AeroMaritime (B733).
The Swiss: Balair (DC9,MD8?,A310) - TEA Suisse (B733).
Donzilasse From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4911 times:
The Swedish Transair operated B727 under the name B727 Sun Jet. I believe they were out of Malmo, Sweden. I flew with them twice. The first time it was a flight for Spies, Denmark in 1971 from Torslanda, Gothemburg to Malaga.
The second time was 1977 to Banjul, Gambia and back. The return flight was the first departure from the "new" terminal building at the Yun Dum airport. On our arrival the passport control was done under a palm tree at a foldable table. I have photos but they are in storage. I believe that you can find the Transair B727 in airliners database.
Bx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 641 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4876 times:
I remember Spantax 737s from DUB-IBZ and DUB-PMI and DC8s from DUB-PMI.
My mother flew from DUB-YYZ on such airlines as Worldways Canada and Air Club International.
In Ireland we had Club Air operating 727s from DUB to most major sun spots. They had EI-BUI a 727-100 in Key Air colours, IIRC EI-BVO another 727-100 in hybrid Dan Air/Virgin and yellow colour scheme (Club Air were operating scheduled services between DUB-LTN for Virgin) and EI-BVX a 727-200 in Eastern colours. They operated from Summer 1987 until October 1988. They also leased an Omega Air 707 TF-IUB.
Sbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 793 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4819 times:
I remember flying Monarch LTN - TNG in 1986 and on BY LGW - MLA in 1987 not sure of the aircraft though.
The best way forwards is upwards!
25 Ba737: i remember flying Dan-Air MME-MAH , MME-IBZ MME-PMI and MME-FAO in 1985 '86 and '87 planes were 2 722's and 2 733's
26 Pelican22: In the early 70s Austrian Airlines used to fly summer charters from Dublin to Salzburg with Viscounts,in the early 80s Air Florida used to fly holiday
31 AirAmericaC46: Hello YVRLTN. Thanks for all the data. I was excited to hear BY 732 operated charters to KUL with multi-stops at ZAG, DAM, DXB, KHI and BKK. Did it fo
32 Ba737: Dont forget good ol' British Island Airways i had a charter flight or two with them.......
33 Baexecutive: Remember flying with Air 2000 when I was younger, flew on 757, A320 and 737 and from what I remember service was fantastic
34 YVRLTN: Im not sure to be honest - Orion737 or BCAL might know. Have a look at the current Monarch thread too, I posted a bunch of historical info and routes
35 AirAmericaC46: Hello to Viscount 724: Thanks for posting those exciting pics especially of Quebecair 707------anybody knows what routes Quebecair 707 flew?? Thanks i
36 767Lover: Wasn't Laker Airways at one time a charter airline from the UK to the US and other destinations?
37 Dc863: Including Dubrovnik. I watched one of their A300 circle for a long time out over the Adriatic from the window of my room at the Hotel Imperial. There
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