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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7464 times:

Love how the reporter calls it a "DC-9 or MD-80"

A Northwest Airlines jet made an emergency landing at Metro Airport Friday morning after pilots were alerted to possible smoke in the cargo bay.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?...7a2e80-683e-4e12-8c7a-a69935c6cc68

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7342 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Love how the reporter calls it a "DC-9 or MD-80"

Hey give the dude some credit here, at least he didn't refer to it as a DC-737!  Wow!



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User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

Yeah, but NW hasn't operated MD80's for years. At least it's in the family, but to throw MD80 in when talking about NW just shows that the media doesn't keep up on the fleet of the airline serving 70% of DTW's passengers.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7114 times:

Maybe he just can't believe that it's a DC9. There's no way an airline would still be flying those...  Wink


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User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7066 times:



Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 2):
At least it's in the family, but to throw MD80 in when talking about NW just shows that the media doesn't keep up on the fleet of the airline serving 70% of DTW's passengers.

I agree, but I think they have more important things to do than keeping up with all the carrier's fleet types.. LOL

1011yyz



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7011 times:

They are just like the rest of America. They generally do not know a DC 9 from a 10 or an 11. If you are expecting them to keep up, you will be disappointed.

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6952 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Hey give the dude some credit here, at least he didn't refer to it as a DC-737! Wow!

As far as I know, Northwest does not fly that type of Airbus.


User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6917 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Hey give the dude some credit here, at least he didn't refer to it as a DC-737!
I heard a news station discussing (during some incident involving an ER aircraft) whether the fuel tanks that had been added after it was in service were causing problems.

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 6):
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Hey give the dude some credit here, at least he didn't refer to it as a DC-737! Wow!


As far as I know, Northwest does not fly that type of Airbus



[Edited 2008-03-21 13:24:39]

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6868 times:
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Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 5):
They are just like the rest of America. They generally do not know a DC 9 from a 10 or an 11. If you are expecting them to keep up, you will be disappointed.

It's not really a matter of the media 'keeping up'....it's a matter of the media using a shred of discipline and professionalism when reporting.

The media has historically built a reputation for reporting specific details without bothering to confirm that those details are remotely accurate.

When faced with the options of:

A) specifying that the aircraft involved is a model they think is correct, ie: "a Northwest Airlines DC-767 was involved in an incident"

or

B) simply reporting what they know to be accurate, ie: "a Northwest Airlines aircraft was involved in an incident", they often will make the decision to go with option A.

Such a level of unprofessionalism and casual disregard for accuracy is simply unacceptable in other industries, and it's what has earned the media their less-than-impressive reputation among the aviation industry.

2H4



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User currently offline87GROUNDED From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6690 times:

To the reported a DC-9 and MD-80 look similar. Give him the credit of at least being somewhat close. Sometime you should take a tour of the TV station and check out the microphones they attach to their lapels. To us, it's a microphone. To them, it's a model TPR-719-01-A with a feedback eliminator and flux capacitor option.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6636 times:



Quoting 87GROUNDED (Reply 9):
Sometime you should take a tour of the TV station and check out the microphones they attach to their lapels.

Yes, but it's not our job to know what their equipment is. It is their job to report the facts correctly or to not report them.

But I think this guy did a fine job by saying it is a DC9 or MD80. Because he is RIGHT. It was one of them.  Smile



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6495 times:
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When AS288 went down off the coast of Santa Barbara, Larry King had a McDonnell/Douglas-Boeing rep on to discuss the accident. And when the MDC-Boeing rep stated that it was an MD-83, Larry King jumped in, and said, "which means the plane was built in 1983" (insinuating the accident had something to do with aircraft's age), for which the MDC-Boeing rep then corrected him and said, it was actually built in the 1990's, and said the it was strictly a model number and nothing to do with the age of construction. King look absolutely stunned that he was upstaged on his ownshow.


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User currently offlineAS777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6460 times:

I am not trying to flame anyone here, but why is it that everyone gets offended when reporters don't know what kind of plane it is? It's the same comments on every thread that invloves reporters. You and I both know the general public doesn't know the difference between airplanes! I am actually surprised they get the Airline correct sometimes.

It is a part of life.

I agree, they should research their stories a little more, but you also have to realize, when an "emergency" situation hits...every TV station/News Crew is trying to be the FIRST to air it. So they aren't going to want to research anything, they are going to throw out names of things, hope its right, and make corrections later.

If this were an article in a paper, or publication, I would say flame away at the reporter, writer, editor, etc...

 hissyfit 


User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5978 times:



Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
And when the MDC-Boeing rep stated that it was an MD-83, Larry King jumped in, and said, "which means the plane was built in 1983" (insinuating the accident had something to do with aircraft's age)

This is correct. As such, the B787 will have its inaugural flight in July 2087  Wink


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12169 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5518 times:
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And getting back on topic, glad everythings ok, and it didn't turn out to be a fire as reported! If it was serious then it wouldn't have helped DTW with all the snow recently!

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5233 times:



Quoting AS777 (Reply 12):
I am not trying to flame anyone here, but why is it that everyone gets offended when reporters don't know what kind of plane it is?

Not knowing is fine. Getting it WRONG is not.

If you don't know, don't guess. If you don't know, just report it as a Northwest plane, not a Northwest 737, for example.

But this guy didn't do anything wrong. He reported it correctly. It was a DC9 or MD80.  Smile



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4935 times:
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Quoting AS777 (Reply 12):
you also have to realize, when an "emergency" situation hits...every TV station/News Crew is trying to be the FIRST to air it.

I've never had a job that accepted poor performance because of tight deadlines. It's called taking pride in your work, and the media has a lot to learn about that.  yes 

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15):
But this guy didn't do anything wrong. He reported it correctly. It was a DC9 or MD80.

By that logic, it was also a DC-9 or P-51. Although being accurate half of the time might well be an improvement, I'd like to see the media shoot for the stars and strive for 60% or 65%.

2H4



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User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4889 times:



Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 2):
At least it's in the family, but to throw MD80 in when talking about NW just shows that the media doesn't keep up on the fleet of the airline serving 70% of DTW's passengers.

ehh.. no biggie, most ppl aren't a.neters... I still remeber CNN the day of the LEX crash by Comair, they kept showing the cr9 in DL colors, not the CR2.....



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2015 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4547 times:



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 8):
A) specifying that the aircraft involved is a model they think is correct, ie: "a Northwest Airlines DC-767 was involved in an incident"

or

B) simply reporting what they know to be accurate, ie: "a Northwest Airlines aircraft was involved in an incident", they often will make the decision to go with option A.

That totally hits the nail on the head right there! They would look much better if they would just report what they know and not mention what they don't know, and hold off until they confirm it, rather than making something up and looking foolish later.



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User currently offlineAmccann From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

Im not trying to stir anything here because I agree with the majority of you, the media has and always will rush inaccurate details to press just to get a story out there; but... I greatly dislike how a majority of this thread has been arguments related to media not discussions of the incident itself. Such as, what was the cause of the fire warning going off? Was it a DC9 30 series or 40 series or 50 series? The video looks as if it is a 30 series, but I could be wrong.


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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6104 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4294 times:
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Quoting 2H4 (Reply 8):
Such a level of unprofessionalism and casual disregard for accuracy is simply unacceptable in other industries, and it's what has earned the media their less-than-impressive reputation among the aviation industry.

2H4

If they are inaccurate about reporting aviation and we all notice ,I wonder how many other things they screw up on that we do not notice because we don't know about it?



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User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days ago) and read 3484 times:

Since I work at the station that aired this report I will contact the helicopter pilot that made this report. He is very knowledgeable in these matters. It surprises me 100% that there would be this discrepancy in his report. I will contact him now by E-Mail, encourage him to join A-Net and reply to this thread if I can.

User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 21):
I will contact him now by E-Mail, encourage him to join A-Net and reply to this thread if I can.

I have now received an E-Mail reply from our chopper pilot but I cannot post it for as I understand it that would be a violation of A-Net rules and regulations since he is not a member. In my E-Mail to him I asked him to join so that he could respond within this forum however. If any moderator says I can post it I will but I want to be sure and as of this time I am not. It is a good and detailed responce.

I have now sent the E-Mail to the author of this thread: DTWClipper

[Edited 2008-03-22 08:59:10]

User currently offlineSgtusmc96 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

After investigating the cause it was found to be a can of hair spray punctured by a bag. We still ended up sending it to the hanger to due a minimum workscope and have the F/o's clearview windows removed and replaced due to scratches. So luckily no major problems were found. Its amazing what hair spray will due!

User currently offlineTWAL1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 629 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1907 times:



Quoting AS777 (Reply 12):
You and I both know the general public doesn't know the difference between airplanes!

Remember on 9/11 a normal every day New Yorker on the street referred to the 1st airplane
that hit the trade center as "a 727"

Probably 90% of the population has little or no idea what airplane is what.

KD


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 25, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
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Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 24):
Probably 90% of the population has little or no idea what airplane is what.

That doesn't mean reporters shouldn't report with discipline and strive for accuracy.

2H4



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