Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
AC fleet and route questions  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12436 posts, RR: 37
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Just curious about some aspects of the AC fleet and maybe someone could answer these questions:

1) When were the last 744s retired?
2) What years were the L1011s operated by AC; I know that -1/100s and -500s were operated; were they retired around the same time?
3) When are the last widebody Airbuses due to retire; will the 330s be kept on longer than the 340s?
4) Is there a site where one can find out the dates of operation for all AC types (e.g. B727, 1978-9x)?
5) Has AC revealed where it intends to fly the 787s?

Many thanks/merci beaucoup!

12 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

For the historical fleet, try here.

Believe the 744s went in 2003, L-1011s in 1996. Actually, the L-1011s were retired twice, several going to Marana in the late 80s. Three were brought back to service YVR - YYZ for about three years in the 90s. At the time they were called 'pigmobiles', apparently not affectionately. But they did fill a need.

A330s will soldier on until well into the next decade, they're only about nine years old. They will be XM'd as well.

787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations. But of course the Dreamliner has to actually fly first...



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network. They have the range to across both the pacific and atlantic - they were bought so they could be used interchangeably with the 777 depending on the loads. You will see them everywhere including on Rapidair flights.


Leahy on Per Seat Costs: "Have you seen the B-2 fly-by at almost US$1bn a copy? It has only 2 seats!"
User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4935 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3920 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
4) Is there a site where one can find out the dates of operation for all AC types (e.g. B727, 1978-9x)?

Historical
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/historical.html

Current
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/index.html



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

I read somewhere in this forum that AC's fleet plans have changed slightly. I believe the original idea was to replace the 767-300's with the new 787's on a 1-1 basis. Now, they will supposedly start phasing out the 767's only after the first 15 787's have been delivered. If this is true, this means that they will have a lot of long range aircraft when the 787s start arriving. I wonder what they will do with all that extra capacity?

User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

AC original plans were for 3 B77W and 11 B77Ls, those numbers were revised several times before deliveries to AC began.

Apparently AC's B787 order includes both -8 and -9 variants although the final breakdown hasn't been finalized.

AC's orginal XM plans for the B767 fleet included the new IFE and seats as well as adding winglets and installing the new "777" type bins. Why were the new bins and winglets dropped from the XM plans?? I'm sure that AC will be receiving their first 787 later than planned due to the significant delays Boeing is experiencing with the 787 program. Any chance that some of the newer B767s may be upgraded with winglets and bins at a later time? I doubt that AC will be able to remove all of its 767s before 2015.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineBoac747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

You can find an excellent comprehensive fleet history at www.yyznews.com

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3667 times:



Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 5):
Any chance that some of the newer B767s may be upgraded with winglets and bins at a later time? I doubt that AC will be able to remove all of its 767s before 2015.

I doubt it. If at all they would've done it now while the planes got the new seating etc. When is the scheduled delivery for the first and last B787? By when does AC plan to have all B763's leave the fleet. I'd assume the B762's will disapear by the end of the year?


User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2130 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3561 times:



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 1):
787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations.

While I'm sure this answer intended to be helpful, it merely includes pretty much every international AC destination served today. The following is accurate:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network.




The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25205 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3525 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 7):
I'd assume the B762's will disapear by the end of the year?

They've already retired almost all their early 767-200s. I think they'll keep their 7 newer -200ERs for a few more years, at least until the 787s start arriving. The oldest of those aircraft was delivered in 1988 and someare are newer than AC's oldest 767-300ERs.


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

In another thread the 762ER's were discussed. Someone said AC was searching for some A321 to replace the remaining 762's as a stop gap until the 787's arrive. The 762's aren't being Xm'd so are going to go sooner rather than later. In addition there are 763's that are still in the old paint scheme and aren't being Xm'd either and are going to be retired before the 787's arrived.

User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2489 times:



Quoting Threepoint (Reply 8):
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 1):
787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations.

While I'm sure this answer intended to be helpful, it merely includes pretty much every international AC destination served today. The following is accurate:

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network.

Threepoint: is there any actual merit in your post ? Mine and Cruisers were essentially equivalent in content, just not in form. But I'm sure you intended to be helpful.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2130 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

Apologies if you took offense where none was intended. That's a common reaction on this site. In response to the "Where does AC intend to fly the 787s" question, you stated their entire non-domestic/transborder route network. I haven't heard if any 787 routes have been formally decided & announced, which may in many cases change in the three-year interim before we see the first AC 787 enter service.
My interpretation of the OP's question was that a definite list of cities-to-be-served was sought as revealed by the airline itself. In which case, I believe the answer is: we don't yet know for sure. I'll let others decide which is more helpful: an honest answer that reveals little, or a speculative answer that includes every possible direction out of the country, short of a trans-polar flight.



The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Some Panam Questions? posted Thu May 12 2005 03:13:43 by COEWR777
Some Corsair Questions posted Fri Mar 4 2005 19:01:12 by AlitaliaMD11
Why Is The Gear On Some Ac Tilted? posted Fri Mar 4 2005 05:23:18 by AR1300
Some Odd Questions... posted Sun Feb 20 2005 14:38:23 by AirEMS
Some Erau Questions posted Thu Nov 25 2004 04:21:16 by MNeo
Some Concorde Questions posted Wed Sep 29 2004 09:23:01 by Aa777jr
Hi Everyone. Some Stupid Questions posted Mon Aug 9 2004 16:36:50 by BIGBlack
Some JetBlue Questions posted Sat Apr 10 2004 17:18:15 by Flairport
Some DC-8 Questions. posted Sun Feb 22 2004 19:35:16 by Dc8jet
Some Southwest Questions posted Sun Dec 14 2003 21:32:16 by 727LOVER