Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11952 posts, RR: 37 Posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3297 times:
Just curious about some aspects of the AC fleet and maybe someone could answer these questions:
1) When were the last 744s retired?
2) What years were the L1011s operated by AC; I know that -1/100s and -500s were operated; were they retired around the same time?
3) When are the last widebody Airbuses due to retire; will the 330s be kept on longer than the 340s?
4) Is there a site where one can find out the dates of operation for all AC types (e.g. B727, 1978-9x)?
5) Has AC revealed where it intends to fly the 787s?
Believe the 744s went in 2003, L-1011s in 1996. Actually, the L-1011s were retired twice, several going to Marana in the late 80s. Three were brought back to service YVR - YYZ for about three years in the 90s. At the time they were called 'pigmobiles', apparently not affectionately. But they did fill a need.
A330s will soldier on until well into the next decade, they're only about nine years old. They will be XM'd as well.
787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations. But of course the Dreamliner has to actually fly first...
Cruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 998 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network. They have the range to across both the pacific and atlantic - they were bought so they could be used interchangeably with the 777 depending on the loads. You will see them everywhere including on Rapidair flights.
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RP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 829 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3043 times:
I read somewhere in this forum that AC's fleet plans have changed slightly. I believe the original idea was to replace the 767-300's with the new 787's on a 1-1 basis. Now, they will supposedly start phasing out the 767's only after the first 15 787's have been delivered. If this is true, this means that they will have a lot of long range aircraft when the 787s start arriving. I wonder what they will do with all that extra capacity?
KrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 3019 times:
AC original plans were for 3 B77W and 11 B77Ls, those numbers were revised several times before deliveries to AC began.
Apparently AC's B787 order includes both -8 and -9 variants although the final breakdown hasn't been finalized.
AC's orginal XM plans for the B767 fleet included the new IFE and seats as well as adding winglets and installing the new "777" type bins. Why were the new bins and winglets dropped from the XM plans?? I'm sure that AC will be receiving their first 787 later than planned due to the significant delays Boeing is experiencing with the 787 program. Any chance that some of the newer B767s may be upgraded with winglets and bins at a later time? I doubt that AC will be able to remove all of its 767s before 2015.
LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2104 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 5): Any chance that some of the newer B767s may be upgraded with winglets and bins at a later time? I doubt that AC will be able to remove all of its 767s before 2015.
I doubt it. If at all they would've done it now while the planes got the new seating etc. When is the scheduled delivery for the first and last B787? By when does AC plan to have all B763's leave the fleet. I'd assume the B762's will disapear by the end of the year?
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2763 times:
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 1): 787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations.
While I'm sure this answer intended to be helpful, it merely includes pretty much every international AC destination served today. The following is accurate:
Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2): As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21481 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 7): I'd assume the B762's will disapear by the end of the year?
They've already retired almost all their early 767-200s. I think they'll keep their 7 newer -200ERs for a few more years, at least until the 787s start arriving. The oldest of those aircraft was delivered in 1988 and someare are newer than AC's oldest 767-300ERs.
Pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2046 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2684 times:
In another thread the 762ER's were discussed. Someone said AC was searching for some A321 to replace the remaining 762's as a stop gap until the 787's arrive. The 762's aren't being Xm'd so are going to go sooner rather than later. In addition there are 763's that are still in the old paint scheme and aren't being Xm'd either and are going to be retired before the 787's arrived.
Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3857 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1691 times:
Quoting Threepoint (Reply 8): Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 1):
787s will fly Transpac/At and probably into Latin America, to both existing and new destinations.
While I'm sure this answer intended to be helpful, it merely includes pretty much every international AC destination served today. The following is accurate:
Quoting Cruiser (Reply 2):
As AC now has 37 x 787's on order, you can assume that they will be flying just about everywhere in the AC Network.
Threepoint: is there any actual merit in your post ? Mine and Cruisers were essentially equivalent in content, just not in form. But I'm sure you intended to be helpful.
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
Apologies if you took offense where none was intended. That's a common reaction on this site. In response to the "Where does AC intend to fly the 787s" question, you stated their entire non-domestic/transborder route network. I haven't heard if any 787 routes have been formally decided & announced, which may in many cases change in the three-year interim before we see the first AC 787 enter service.
My interpretation of the OP's question was that a definite list of cities-to-be-served was sought as revealed by the airline itself. In which case, I believe the answer is: we don't yet know for sure. I'll let others decide which is more helpful: an honest answer that reveals little, or a speculative answer that includes every possible direction out of the country, short of a trans-polar flight.
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