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AF Type On Their West African Routes  
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

AF serve so many West African destinations. Do they use always the 332 for Nouakchott, Dakar, Ndjamena etc? I would think some destinations like Abidjan and Dakar would be so busy that AF could use a 777 or 747.

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User currently offlineTwolz2rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I know for their flights to OUA, they use A330's and A340's (as I have flown on one)

AF does use 772's to DKR

not all the West African routes are widebody. I think Ndjamena is with an A319. not sure though

[Edited 2008-03-23 11:22:35]

User currently offlineJobalas From France, joined Mar 2001, 146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

DKR...772
LBV, LAD, JNB...773
JIB,FIH,OUA,DLA,LFW, NSI ,LOS, PHC...332/343
NDJ, SSG, PNR, NKC...319LR



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Oh no!!! sad to see Nouakchott downgraded to a 319. this was always a 310 and Im sure till recently a 330 route too. I knew Dakar would need a 777, how bout Abidjan?

User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2603 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
how bout Abidjan?

I am 90% sure that it is an A340


User currently offlineJobalas From France, joined Mar 2001, 146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2458 times:

yes ABJ still serve with A9 ( A343 )


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2442 times:



Quoting Jobalas (Reply 2):
DKR...772
LBV, LAD, JNB...773
JIB,FIH,OUA,DLA,LFW, NSI ,LOS, PHC...332/343
NDJ, SSG, PNR, NKC...319LR

PNR is also served by the A319ER "Dedicate", so will be PHC when the airport will reopen.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
I knew Dakar would need a 777, how bout Abidjan?

ABJ will be upgraded from a DAILY A343 to a DAILY B772ER next summer season.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
Oh no!!! sad to see Nouakchott downgraded to a 319. this was always a 310 and Im sure till recently a 330 route too

It used to be 3 x Weekly A332, and NKC was an enroute stop on the flight to CKY. Now it´s 1 x DAILY A319ER nonstop bothways ... that´s not what I would call a "downgrade":


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Still a shame that NKC has lost wide body service after all these years.

User currently offlineAirivoireA321 From Cote d'Ivoire, joined Nov 2006, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2236 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
ABJ will be upgraded from a DAILY A343 to a DAILY B772ER next summer season.

i prefer the A332. I used to fly ABJ-CDG with AF 772 and next summer I will fly CDG-ABJ , i don't like the 3-3-3 configuration in Y besides no AVOD


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Im suprised AF doesnt make ABJ a prime destination and even use the 777-300. It must be AFs most important African destination, alongside Dakar.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2050 times:



Quoting AirivoireA321 (Reply 8):
i don't like the 3-3-3 configuration in Y besides no AVOD

B772ER have AVOD... I agree for the 3x3x3

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 7):
Still a shame that NKC has lost wide body service after all these years.

It maybe a shame for A.Netters, fans of widebodies.
I can tell you that passengers prefer a Daily frequency, and the route is now much more profitable for AF.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 9):
Im surprised AF doesnt make ABJ a prime destination and even use the 777-300. It must be AFs most important African destination, alongside Dakar.

Indeed, ABJ used to be one of the most important African destinations for AF. The B772ER was already daily used 4 or 5 years ago. Then, because of the Political troubles, riots and civil war in Ivory Coast, the traffic dropped and was even disrupted several times, when France and other western countries had to evacuate their citizens because of the dangerous situation.
The flights restarted later with the A332, but were routing via LFW on the way back to CDG to enable a CREW change as the situation was still "uncertain" and AF didn´t want to leave the Crew overnight there.
It went back to normal around a year and a half ago or so: Traffic went up again, the A332 was replaced by an A343 and flight returned to normal CDG-ABJ-CDG.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7617 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1991 times:



Quoting Jobalas (Reply 5):
yes ABJ still serve with A9 ( A343 )

Can anyone remember which type of aircraft AF used on the ABJ route in the summer of 1996?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1937 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11):
Can anyone remember which type of aircraft AF used on the ABJ route in the summer of 1996?

A310 were used at that time on most of the west African routes, as well as B747-200/200Combi.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7617 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1881 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 12):
A310 were used at that time on most of the west African routes, as well as B747-200/200Combi.

Great! Thanks a lot for the info. Would you know if it was it an A-310-200 or -300?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1784 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 13):
Would you know if it was it an A-310-200 or -300?

Both were used on west African routes, but more often the -200 as the -300 were moreused for the longer routes to DXB, KWI, YYZ, BOS.
The -200, initially used by AF on the European network until the early 90s were retrofitted, an a fuel tank added to increase their range, but not enough to equal the -300 possibilities. (the -200 were never used to YYZ )


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1781 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 13):
Would you know if it was it an A-310-200 or -300?

Both were used on west African routes, but more often the -200 as the -300 were more used for the longer routes to DXB, KWI, YYZ, BOS.
The -200, initially used by AF on the European network until the early 90s were retrofitted, an a fuel tank added to increase their range, but not enough to equal the -300 possibilities. (the -200 were never used to YYZ )


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2184 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1739 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
Oh no!!! sad to see Nouakchott downgraded to a 319. this was always a 310 and Im sure till recently a 330 route too.

Well, more frequency as pointed out earlier, and CKY now non-stop everyday. Ah, those big metal tubes lovers...

Quoting Orion737 (Thread starter):
ome destinations like Abidjan and Dakar would be so busy that AF could use a 777 or 747.

So, there is basically no more 747s on the African network except for MRU (which is not African network sensu stricto).



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1684 times:



Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 16):
So, there is basically no more 747s on the African network except for MRU

No more B747 to Africa. The last African destination to be served by a B747 was JNB until AF switched for a 2 x Daily B77W.

No more B747 to Asia either, now that DEL and BKK-SGN/HAN switch to the A343 in 3 days for the next summer schedule.


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