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News: USAir 757 Loses Part Of Wing In Flight  
User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21609 times:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1370990

Fair use excerpt: "ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) - US Airways says a small part of a wing of a jetliner dislodged and hit a passenger window as it flew over Maryland."

Apparently the piece was 17.5 square inches large, lost on a flight travelling from MCO to PHL, and should have landed somewhere in or near Anne Arundel County.

Does anyone have more details than what is in the article?

The story reminds me of a Allegheny flight I was on from Harrisburg to Islip in the late 1960s, when I was just a kid. I recall riding in a Convair, probably a 440, and making a couple stops before Islip. As the wheels touched on the first landing, the emergency window popped out and fell onto my lap. Once the airplane stopped, I walked up to the flight attendant and said the window fell out. A mechanic came on board and reinstalled it, and the flight proceeded. The second landing had the same result as the first, except the flight attendant asked me if I wanted to change seats. I did change seats. At Islip, the window popped out again.

Ah, the memories of aircraft pieces falling off of Allegheny aircraft. And it still happens!

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User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21632 times:

I just saw this same story on http://www.local6.com/news/15682885/detail.html I was about to start a topic on it myself.

It will be very interesting to know what happened here!


User currently offlineTCT From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21564 times:

The passenger seated at the window it hit must have had a heart attack, all of a sudden somthing goes flying into your window..........must have been scary.

Glad everything and everyone is ok.


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21559 times:

Good to hear everything's OK, but I must appease the airline nerd in me... what was the reg of the aircraft involved? Anyone know yet?


Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineCrewchief From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21582 times:

More in the news, including a picture:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Apparently this happened Saturday, and the wing part hit at Row 19. The part is discribed in this article as being a 2 foot by 4 foot part -- much larger than 17.5 square inches.

I wonder what's the real story?


User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21457 times:

This happened yesterday. On the news today they interviewed a passenger who said she would never set foot in another passenger plane. She drove or was driven 10 hrs to IND, from PHL, and is to return to MCO and is looking for another way home, be it bus, train or anything else.

Besides a piece of the wing coming off, a window cracked. Plane flew on to PHL. Happened over BWI?



Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11116 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21414 times:

The headline from another poster over on USAviation.com:

US Airways Runs Out of Duct Tape at Critical Time

Ah, employee morale at its best.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21163 times:



Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 5):
Besides a piece of the wing coming off, a window cracked. Plane flew on to PHL. Happened over BWI?

How can the pilots, in the air, determine it is safe to continue all the way to Philly?? You'd think they would at least land in Charlotte.

"There will be fines..."



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 20938 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
How can the pilots, in the air, determine it is safe to continue all the way to Philly?? You'd think they would at least land in Charlotte.

If it happened over the Baltimore area then PHL is alot closer than CLT.

I bet the pilots would try to not stress anything more than necessary for the rest of the flight, so just make a slow decent to your destination and land.

Now, I'm sure this was a scary experience for all the passengers who saw this happen. Hell, I'd probably s*** myself. At least the news is so far being professional about this and the articles posted arn't alarmist reporters questioning US Airways maintenance...yet.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 20918 times:

Posted on the same day as: Gun Discharged Accidentaly On US Flt. (by AT777 Mar 23 2008 in Civil Aviation)

Too bad it was the wrong type and date.


User currently offlineClipper136 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 311 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 20887 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
You'd think they would at least land in Charlotte.

????????

Why turn and fly back to CLT when by the time they descend they would be close to PHL (BWI-PHL is approx 70 miles???)


User currently offlineEbs757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 20678 times:

im sure the passengers around that area and the one sitting right next to the cracked window enjoyed the rest of the flight


Viva la Vida
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 20620 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
There will be fines...

Fines...? Fines for what....? They broke no regulation. They continued on to the next safest airport....PHL. Airplanes are not like elevators... shoot.. by the time they requested a decent it would be quicker and safer to continue to PHL... by air miles its not that far at all.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):

How can the pilots, in the air, determine it is safe to continue all the way to Philly??

Easy.... Pilot 101... no vibrations, no loss of control, no strange noises....safe to continue

[Edited 2008-03-23 20:09:26]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 20552 times:

My local news here in Dallas (WFAA) just reported that it was a 747...  Yeah sure

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4969 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 19861 times:



Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 5):
She drove or was driven 10 hrs to IND, from PHL, and is to return to MCO and is looking for another way home, be it bus, train or anything else

Which will put her in much more danger than flying.

Indeed, when ValuJet was grounded for "safety", and many of its customers turned to their automobiles, there were some interesting statistical estimates of how many of them died. Not pretty.


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1230 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 19086 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 3):
what was the reg of the aircraft involved?

Mistake on some of the first articles - was 1250 not 1215 operated by A/C 921.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
You'd think they would at least land in Charlotte.

At the time of the incident, they were already descending on the STAR.


User currently offlineApollo13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 19039 times:

Wow and everyone is getting on Southwest to fix their little cracks. This is pretty crazy!!! My little brother is flying with US airways today to go to Washington DC. I hope nothing happens!!! Knock on wood!!!

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21415 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18902 times:

The article I read said it happened 45 minutes out of Orlando. That must have been an error, as the other says it was over Maryland.


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineBarney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 885 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18849 times:

There is no "panel just blew off the wing" annunciation in the cockpit. By the time the crew was made aware (I assume by the FA's) they were likely already closest to their destination. Seems like a good decision.


...from the Banana Republic....
User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18827 times:



Quoting Apollo13 (Reply 16):
Wow and everyone is getting on Southwest to fix their little cracks. This is pretty crazy!!! My little brother is flying with US airways today to go to Washington DC. I hope nothing happens!!! Knock on wood!!!

Don't worry! This is like a one in a million thing... A fluke. Your brother will be fine, I swear my life on it.  Smile



Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4737 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 18773 times:
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Quoting San747 (Reply 19):
Your brother will be fine, I swear my life on it.

Now would be the time to knock on wood...  Wink



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User currently offlineThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17888 times:

Wonderful reason to get an in-flight upgrade to first, "I am sooooo scared that I want to sit way forward of the wing."

I actually pulled a variant of this on a TTA flight back in the pre-deregulation days when a gap seal on a DC-3 popped a couple of rivets and made a helluva noise slapping against the underside of the wing. Upon landing, I noticed that there was a Delta DC-6 soon to board for my destination. I went to the TTA counter and got an endorsement on my ticket, took it over to Delta and got a free first class ride for the rest of my trip. The DC-6 first class lounge at the rear of the airplane was nice; free booze and anything you wanted to eat whenever you wanted it.

See, prior to deregulation, any single class flight was, legally, first class. Since all fares were regulated, an endorsement on your ticket became like cash that another airline must accept, space available, at the same class of service.

Try that today? Sure, take your WN ticket over to American and expect to be booked first class? Sure.


User currently offlineViaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2117 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 17826 times:



Quoting TCT (Reply 2):
all of a sudden somthing goes flying into your window..........must have been scary.

Just not as scary as a piece of the window flying off and hitting the wing.  Smile



Ubi bene ibi patria.
User currently offlineJayDub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 17358 times:

US Scare-ways has really been living up to the name lately.

I flew US the other day for the first time in years...and they truly were the worst carrier I've flown on since, well, the last time I flew US in 2005. I wish them the best and all, but I'm not entirely sure how they've survived.


User currently offlineContinental180 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 17072 times:



Quoting JayDub (Reply 23):
US Scare-ways has really been living up to the name lately.

I flew US the other day for the first time in years...and they truly were the worst carrier I've flown on since, well, the last time I flew US in 2005. I wish them the best and all, but I'm not entirely sure how they've survived.

agreed 110 percent. they have one of the worst customer service, terrible staff, and just a terrible airline......they have really gone downhill when they kept on saying they would do good when they mergered with american west...hmm...it doesnt look any better to me now does it?


25 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : Reminds me of my 2006 shuttle flight LGA-DCA, and I sat watching them use some sort of heavy duty 'duct' tape on the wing of the plane I was sitting o
26 Aogdesk : Sigh.......that wasn't duct tape. It was an APPROVED foil tape which is temporarily used in NON-structural areas to cover superficial and minor aircr
27 Post contains images Argonaut : Anne Arundel County, eh? Annapolis? Yikes, that's me! My fifteen seconds at last! Interviews, money, fame, the whole 9 yards (well, 17.5 sq.in. or wh
28 Francoflier : If you decide to stop flying for any airline that uses speed tape on their aircrafts, better start getting familiar with AMTRAK's schedules...
29 Checksixx : Sorry about my post above. I posted it in the correct thread and somehow it migrated to the other thread I had open in another window...I've already s
30 Dl757md : Southwest's "little cracks" are a structural defect in the fuselage which is pressurized during flight. The panel that this thread is about is a clos
31 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : I am well aware it's not duct tape, my reference implies it looks like duct tape. I don't agree that it should be PUT on a plane when passengers are
32 Barney Captain : This was a problem probably discovered during the pre-flight - and remedied on the spot. Would you have preferred the additional delay required to to
33 Post contains images Rscaife1682 : I agree much better to take the whole wing off the a/c, then transport it over to MX hanger to fix then bring it back Or maybe tow the plane over to
34 Wjcandee : My experience has been exactly the opposite. It's an excellent airline, one known in the *industry* (rather than, perhaps the (idiotic) Flyertalk or
35 JayDub : I am a member of neither demographic... US has contributed greatly to the industry in the aspect of safety programs...and the ground personnel at the
36 TVNWZ : Parts have fallen off airplanes flown by all the airlines at one time or another. A couple of years ago DL dropped engine housings in the Tampa area f
37 FalconBird : Sounds like several hard landings to me.
38 UsAirways16bwi : so...PHL spotters... we would love to see a pic of that 757 if you can get it. It will be interesting to see what really happened. Was it a birdstrike
39 Dl757md : Yes, neither is likely to result in a failure. I'm not trying to demonize anybody. I was just trying to make someone understand that cracks in the fu
40 Works4boeing : Where's John Lithgow when you need him? "There's a man on the wing! THERE'S A MAN ON THE WING."
41 Dragon6172 : I suppose they should not put fuel in the plane while the passengers can see either. Do not want them thinking that the plane did not have enough gas
42 A342 : Have a look at the title of the link in reply 4...
43 Post contains images Wjcandee : Unless you're the one conked on the head by the panel. Seriously, though, I agree with your analysis, given that we both recognize that both events r
44 Aogdesk : Well, the "common" person might also be able to reason that if an airline was applying a material in full view of passengers, that it MUST mean that
45 Xtoler : I was doing J41 duty on US Express a few years ago from TRI to PIT. Had a piece of sheet metal just below and aft of the no. 2 exhaust, come loose and
46 IRelayer : Interesting...I flew on a short LAS-SAN segment last weekend on WN and with all the hubub about the fuselage cracks and my lack of sleep from being in
47 474218 : They were in no danger there as long as the inner pane remained undamaged and in place. And no lights! Fox News had a picture of the missing part of
48 PPVRA : Thought I was gonna have a similar experience flying a DL 757 once. . . the left aileron seemed "loose" on take-off/landing. Shaking quite a bit, more
49 Crewchief : I don't recall them being all that hard. The aircraft didn't bounce, and nothing in the cabin rattled at all. But I'll never forget the surprise I fe
50 Post contains links and images GuitrThree : You mean like tape like this? UA didn't move this jet to apply the "NASCAR" tape on the nose. This was taken from the windows at SFO as I waited for
51 Crjfixer : I doubt that is speed tape in that picture. We cannot put speed tape on the radome due to interference with the radar. That is most likely erosion tap
52 Post contains links Oceanic : Well, little cracks can be even more dangerous. See: De Havilland Comet
53 Blackbird1331 : When all is said and done, it is left to fate. Whether it be a fall in your bathtub, a part of the fuselage being torn off of an Aloha Air 737 where m
54 474218 : All PAX survived only fatality was a FA.
55 Jeffrey1970 : Usairways sure has had a bad week. I rea today on msnbc.com where one of there pilots gun accidentally went off while in flight. No one was hurt.
56 Post contains images JetMech : Exactly. Every chemical or disposable product I ever used on a plane had to have a release note attached to it. This include such common stuff as adh
57 Whappeh : So essentially, this is a non-event that could of happened to any airliner at any time and yet was blown to epic proportions by a few members here?
58 Aerobalance : Roger that! I can't wait for my future WN flights, every creak or groan the plane makes I'm going to embellish a complaint and have my fellow pax wor
59 Spacecadet : Uh, no? Parts flying off of airplanes are never "non-events". You're talking about airspeeds of 300+ knots. When heavy metal bits go flying around at
60 Flybyguy : Thanks so much for that... so true. The whole fleet is in pretty bad shape. I'm surprised their planes aren't falling out the sky again like they did
61 Flighty : Maybe the 757 in this thread cut him off in the landing pattern, so he shot it? J/K
62 Whappeh : That is one of the most absurd statements ever read on this website. US Air's maintenance was never at fault for any crash they had during that unfor
63 D L X : Just so you know, that's called libel. You might want to retract that.
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