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NW DC-9s Going To South America?  
User currently offlineCbartolucci From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 37 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Anybody know who's taking ownership of these ex-NWA DC-9's that are going to South America?

Here's the quote from the following NY Times article: "Right now we have another 16 DC-9 aircraft that were shed by Northwest going into South America"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/bu...=1206367876-CucrtDGMjXxMilWfli14Zw

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User currently offlineGregarious119 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

Also interesting was the quip about parking 777's....how many of those are out there?

User currently offlineCybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 509 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6003 times:



Quoting Cbartolucci (Thread starter):
Anybody know who's taking ownership of these ex-NWA DC-9's that are going to South America?

Aserca Airlines probably

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Tavo



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5923 times:



Quoting Cbartolucci (Thread starter):
Right now we have another 16 DC-9 aircraft that were shed by Northwest going into South America

Nine former MZJ-stored NW DC-9-30s are now flown to MHV and two to TUC. I think they will paint there and do some maintenance for the new owner from South America. Three planes are now in BAQ and they will fly shortly for Aserca Airlines of Venezuela.

To my known there were 8 DC-9-10s and 32 DC-9-30s stored at MZJ.

Quote:
In January, Northwest Airlines said that this year it planned to park about a third of its fleet of 103 DC-9s, which average over 30 years old.

Northwest has now 44 DC-9-30s, 12 DC-9-40s and 34 DC-9-50s in service (total 90).

Quoting Gregarious119 (Reply 1):
Also interesting was the quip about parking 777's....how many of those are out there?

I'm not sure if there really is a B777 in MZJ. I have a B777 stored in BGR (for Transaero), two stored at AFW, one at WAL (for the government of Gabon), one at GYR (to be scrapped) and a single United Airlines B777 in SIN.


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5897 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 3):
two to TUC

Sorry, mean TUS...


User currently offlineN471WN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5641 times:
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Viasa writes........

I'm not sure if there really is a B777 in MZJ. I have a B777 stored in BGR (for Transaero), two stored at AFW, one at WAL (for the government of Gabon), one at GYR (to be scrapped) and a single United Airlines B777 in SIN.

My response....

I was at Goodyear last week and did not see a 777---the only 777 to be scrapped is at Walnut Ridge. Arkansas

My sources tell me there are 6 777's in storage as we speak and they are at:

Fort Worth, Texas (2)
Walnut Ridge
Wallops, Virginia (waiting for the Gabon Govt and this is an odd airport so it could be at Walnut Ridge as well)
Montreal
Singapore
Riyadh (plane shown as damaged)


User currently offlineCarls From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

I can't believe they are going to Aserca. So there is no chance that an airline from Venezuela take at least second generation A/C, even with all the accidents they have had lately. There are only Russian, DC 9, and 737 flying. No RJ, No new Turboprops, no new medium and long range planes.

User currently offlineRazza74 From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Why does UA have a 7777 in storage in SIN?

Razza74



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24961 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4239 times:



Quoting Razza74 (Reply 7):
Why does UA have a 7777 in storage in SIN?

Was supposed to be going to Brunei but that deal seems to be off IIRC



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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2258 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Good place for them. Gas is cheap, and the noise laws aren't a problem. They'll fly another 15 years.


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3840 times:



Quoting Carls (Reply 6):
There are only Russian, DC 9, and 737 flying. No RJ, No new Turboprops, no new medium and long range planes.

Russian: No, none.
Turboprops: As far as I know Conviasa has 2 brandnew ATR 72.
Longhaul: 1 A340 at Conviasa, 2 767-300 and 1 757 at Santa Barbara. But all of them are quite old as well.


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Wasn't there a ex- RG 777 @ JFK sans an engine ?


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User currently offlineCarls From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3235 times:



Quoting Chiguire (Reply 10):
Russian: No, none.

Sorry Chiguire, there are many Russian Aircraft, Yak 40 for example. Just remember the one that felt down going to Los Roques early this year.....
The A340-200 is leased to Iran Air. Is not serving Venezuela.

Danke.


User currently offlineDLPhoenix From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3159 times:



Quoting N471WN (Reply 5):
I'm not sure if there really is a B777 in MZJ

They had a couple of EX RG 777 in 2006



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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2982 times:



Quoting Carls (Reply 12):
Sorry Chiguire, there are many Russian Aircraft, Yak 40 for example. Just remember the one that felt down going to Los Roques early this year.....

It was a Let. It's Czech, not Russian.


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2751 times:



Quoting Carls (Reply 12):
The A340-200 is leased to Iran Air. Is not serving Venezuela.

This is not true!

But the question is, where pick-up the former NW DC-9s! So back to this question...

In South America we have this DC-9 operators:

- Aeropostal - Alas de Venezuela: not interested in NW planes (they have enough own in storage)
- Aserca Airlines: they will return some of the leased DC-9s to the owner, so they have to replace this aircrafts soon. But there were rumors, that they lease seven MD-80s (together with Santa Barbara Airlines).
- Laser: the have now two "new" DC-9-30s (former Southeast Airlines) planes in CCS, to replace the current fleet.
- Lineas Aéreas Suramericanas: only one DC-9-10F - not interested in pax planes.

So the only carrier must be Aserca or a new operator!


User currently offlineOrl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 271 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2691 times:



Quoting Viasa (Reply 15):
In South America we have this DC-9 operators:

- Aeropostal - Alas de Venezuela: not interested in NW planes (they have enough own in storage)
- Aserca Airlines: they will return some of the leased DC-9s to the owner, so they have to replace this aircrafts soon. But there were rumors, that they lease seven MD-80s (together with Santa Barbara Airlines).
- Laser: the have now two "new" DC-9-30s (former Southeast Airlines) planes in CCS, to replace the current fleet.
- Lineas Aéreas Suramericanas: only one DC-9-10F - not interested in pax planes.

So the only carrier must be Aserca or a new operator!

Well Viasa is Right, I know that Aserca will leave this Planes YV116T, YV117T, YV118T and the YV122T, and they need to replace the YV298T.. so they probably received 5 o 6 more, and about the MD-80 no info yet!!

I know one the "newest" Laser Planes is flying with the YV331T registration.. Maybe the other will enter the fleet next month..

Saludos, Orlando


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