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SIA To Cancel TPE-LAX Flights  
User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11911 times:
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According to what I've read on another website, SQ is to cancel the TPE-LAX flights from May 2008 onwards.

It's no longer possible to book the flights for this period and the possibility of this route being axed is very likely.

Will all the flights be routed throgh Tokyo or is it may be a consequence of the future "full J" A345 flights ?

Any info most welcome.


FB.


Life is great at 41.000 feet...
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User currently offlineZoom1018 From Vietnam, joined May 2005, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 11824 times:

I guess they will use A380 via Tokyo and A345 non-stop to LAX.

User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11627 times:



Quoting Flying Belgian (Thread starter):
According to what I've read on another website, SQ is to cancel the TPE-LAX flights from May 2008 onwards.

From what I know the frequency will be reduced on this route for the north hemisphere summer from 7 weekly to 4 weekly rotations. These flights are still in the GDS' and can be booked.


User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11306 times:

Wow, kind of surprised by this. This route has been flown for..at least the last decade. And it has had quite a bit of history and aircraft operating it. From the 747-400 as SQ006 which tragically ended as we all remember, to the 772's replacing it as SQ28/27, to the upgrade of the route with the 777-300ER, to reduced frequencies to now nothing...

This flight will be missed. I am on it in a few weeks. One final go around on it for me!



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineBP1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 10909 times:

Has this been announced yet, or is it simply quietly being changed in the booking system?

Regards,
BP1



"First To Fly The A-380" / 26 October 2007 SYD-SIN Inaugural
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 10908 times:

I flew this flight in September of 2006 (was actually flying LAX-TPE-SIN), and expected to see most pax terminate their journey at TPE. I was completely wrong -- I'd say more than 90% continued on to SIN.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 10781 times:

The flight is still bookable on their website for dates after May 2008. The flight only operates on days 1, 3, 4, and 6 however.

User currently offlinePA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 10740 times:
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I was told from SQ sources that they were looking at discontinuing SQ 27/28, but I also had a hard time believing it. Apparently the yields are just too low, and the dollar is too week to continue justifying the extra aircraft on this route. This is going to really disrupt the leisure market, but then again SQ has never really cared about the leisure market.


It's been swell, but the swelling has gone down.
User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1446 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10631 times:

Wasn't this route being flown by the 77W up until about a month ago which was pulled for the 2nd ZRH daily? A shame really but ooh well!

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 3):
This flight will be missed. I am on it in a few weeks. One final go around on it for me!

I was actually booked to fly it tomorrow on the 772 but since I cannot stand LAX, I changed to SQ1 from SFO instead.  biggrin . A shame they'll axe this before I fly it although it looks like it's going from daily to 4X a week.



If you're going through hell, keep going
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9793 times:



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 8):
I was actually booked to fly it tomorrow on the 772 but since I cannot stand LAX, I changed to SQ1 from SFO instead.

Smart man. I wish I had booked my recent vacation to Southeast Asia via SFO instead of LAX. What a nightmare.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineVincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

It will be missed, on the other hand it's a practical move, I suppose this will also help other 3 airlines, especially MH. I'm thinking if Singapore should negotiate with China rerouting this through PVG. China, in return, can get 5th freedom from Singapore to Africa, etc.

User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1446 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9113 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 9):
Smart man. I wish I had booked my recent vacation to Southeast Asia via SFO instead of LAX. What a nightmare.

Absolutely right, it is a nightmare. I wasn't too fortunate though on my way back since it's an award ticket and I am stuck with the SIN-NRT-LAX flight. Ooh well!



If you're going through hell, keep going
User currently offlineGA330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8898 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 5):
I flew this flight in September of 2006 (was actually flying LAX-TPE-SIN), and expected to see most pax terminate their journey at TPE. I was completely wrong -- I'd say more than 90% continued on to SIN.

As far as I know, they are way too many airlines / frequencies that flies LAX-TPE, and with the prices that SQ charges for its flight, I dont think many people are willing to fly them just to go to TPE. Of course this is just my opinion, please correct me if I am wrong.

Airlines that does LAX-TPE as far as I know
BR SQ MH CI, totaling about 6-7x daily flight



China Eastern MU586 KLAX - SZPD with B-6055
User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8840 times:

From a premium standpoint, which after all is what SQ focuses on, TPE is one of the lowest yield markets in the world. With the dollar dropping as it is, I'm not surprised at all to see them pull off. The fares aren't out of line for that market either. Coach may be, the J/F are right in line.

User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 871 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Why does SQ would schedule flights to LAX with an intermediate stop ? A345 is The Way !

dennys


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8419 times:



Quoting Kanebear (Reply 13):
From a premium standpoint, which after all is what SQ focuses on, TPE is one of the lowest yield markets in the world.

That's why AC dropped YVR-TPE several years ago and decided to leave the market to CI and BR which both operate nonstop YVR-TPE. AC codeshares on BR flights.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8347 times:



Quoting Dennys (Reply 14):
A345 is The Way !

...or not.

The aircraft is a relative dog on flights that don't push the C-market, and few of the latter such routes can produce the yield necessary to justify them.


User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8293 times:

A clarification for those talking about how long this route has been flown: SQ started TPE-LAX in 1982 or 1983, operating via HNL. The HNL stop was dropped in 1992, and equipment changed to 744. I think frequency went up to daily around 1994.

I don't know about how the route fared in the early days, but SQ struggled with yield on this route when I worked there, and this was due mostly to aggressive pricing from BR. SQ6/5 was, in fact, not profitable at that time. BR impacted SQ yield-wise not just on TPE-LAX but on many SE Asia-SFO/LAX city pairs. I imagine that yield improved when the 777 was placed on the route because lower pax capacity means that fewer seats have to be sold at rock bottom prices, but I do not know if the 777 brought the route into the black.

Before the introduction of the nonstop SIN-LAX vv service, one of the reasons why SQ never dropped TPE-LAX vv was because of connecting flights for LAX-originating paxs. On the westbound sectors, SQ11 via NRT arrives at 1am; too late for connections. So, SQ5 (or SQ29 or SQ27 as it was subsequently called) took up the slack for connecting traffic, especially for the India routes. If SQ6/5 had been dropped, the overall profitability of a number of other stations - notably LAX and India - would have been impacted.


User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

Also, the route is NOT being dropped. It is being reduced to 4x weekly

User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 942 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8206 times:

From the other website. It states that after october the flights are gone.

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8192 times:
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Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 18):
Also, the route is NOT being dropped. It is being reduced to 4x weekly

It has been zeroed out (for booking) from October 2008 on.


User currently offlineZuluAviator994 From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7666 times:



Quoting Zoom1018 (Reply 1):


I guess they will use A380 via Tokyo and A345 non-stop to LAX.

I Concur with this, most likely because of the capacity.
Regards.



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6858 times:



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 8):
Wasn't this route being flown by the 77W up until about a month ago which was pulled for the 2nd ZRH daily? A shame really but ooh well!

Correct, they operated 3 or 4 of the flights a week with the 77W back in January/December. I had the pleasure of flying on it then and it was quite a comfortable ride. The remainder of the flights for the week were 772 aircraft.



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6522 times:



Quoting Panamair (Reply 20):
It has been zeroed out (for booking) from October 2008 on.

On singaporeair.com, I can still see SQ28 SIN-TPE-LAX on the timetables in November as 4x weekly. Perhaps they have not yet updated it?


User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6267 times:



Quoting Flying Belgian (Thread starter):
According to what I've read on another website, SQ is to cancel the TPE-LAX flights from May 2008 onwards.

Noooooooooooooooo..... That was the flight that I met my wife on. For sure we will miss that flight  Sad


25 Ktachiya : Well on a positive side, you can sure feel special since the flight will be no more right? So you can hopefully keep it as memories. On the aviation
26 Flying Belgian : Many here stand correct. Frq reduced from may to oct. Route axed in oct. FB.
27 LACA773 : With the discontinuation of this flight, is SQ going to bring in the 380 on SIN-NRT-LAX?
28 SFOHORIZON : I recently took a very extensive trip in Asia, mostly in business class, mostly on Star Alliance Carriers. SQ from TPE to LAX was by far the least cro
29 Anonms : I think it's just more like there's too many flights on that route. BR and CI have at least 2 flights a day AFAIK, then apparently MH also operates i
30 AF022 : From what I can see, there are 45 weekly nonstops LAXTPE: BR, 20 CI, 14 MH, 7 SQ, 4 That is a lot of capacity!
31 Flyguy1 : Well LA simply lose one SQ flight, or might they reroute it through another Asian city?
32 Copaair737 : How many frequencies are there on SFO-TPE? IIRC, BR, CI, and UA fly the route right?
33 Anonms : CI has 1 daily, I think BR has 10 weekly (albeit using Combis last time I flew them). Dunno about UA.
34 Carfield : Well I think SQ maintains 27/28 for a long time because of the good timing of the flight and allowing many good connections for folks traveling to and
35 Joemac547 : It can't be a coincidence that they pull the plug on this flight in October just as they are scheduled to get another A380. And, of course, it would
36 Norcal773 : Not really. The next SQ A380 will be flying SIN-NRT-SIN and not continuing on to LAX. I believe the flight are even loaded onto the SQ website. If I
37 Joemac547 : My thinking was that since SQ is getting one more A380 airframe in October that SQ would add this to the existing SIN-NRT route, so this single new A3
38 Norcal773 : That makes sense actually but I think insiders at SQ say SQ 1 would be the first N.America route to get the A380. They could be wrong of-course. Both
39 CHANGYOU : SIN-PVG-LAX been rumoured for ages. Or are we getting some good news from down under anytime soon?
40 Norcal773 : I thought the Australian government would have none of this although not too many people would be eager to do SIN-SYD-LAX!
41 SQ452 : 2 A380's each, for a total of four...still have to wait till we have those numbers in their fleet.
42 Norcal773 : My bad, that's what I meant.
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