MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 733 posts, RR: 13 Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
EgyptAir has selected the Rolls-Royce Trent 700 to power an additional fleet of up to eight Airbus A330s, due for delivery from 2011. Including a TotalCare long-term services agreement, the contract is valued at around USD500 million at list prices.
The airline already operates a fleet of seven Trent 700-powered A330s and 16 Airbus A320-family aircraft powered by the V2500, which is made by the IAE (International Aero Engines) consortium in which Rolls-Royce is a leading shareholder.
As part of the new agreement, Rolls-Royce has agreed to establish a jointly-owned management services company in Cairo. It will provide EgyptAir with support for its new engine workshop, as well as data management, and technical and logistics services for engines, including the Trent 700 and V2500.
Just to sum up the new deliveries Egyptair is expecting in the coming few years :
Leased A/C :
B777/300-ER : 6 to be delivered in 2010/2011 and 2 in 2012 . A330/200 : 3 to be delivered in 2011 but the Airline is working to have them in either 08 or 09 .
Bought A/C :
B738 : 3 to be delivered in 2008 and the 5 remaining in 2009 ( MS already operates 4 ) . A330/200 : 2 to arrive in 2011 and 3 in 2012 and 3 options for 2013 (if exercised ) . E-170 : 6 to arrive in 09 .
You know, those two extra engines aren't malignant growths...lol.
RR T700s seem to be the de facto sole engines of the A330.
What really amazes me is the fact the A330 has deliveries still coming scheduled out until 2013, even 2015. Seems the 787 and A350 should have taken over completely by then. The A332 will be 13 years old in 2011.
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WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 74 Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 820 times:
Quoting MSYYZ (Thread starter): EgyptAir has selected the Rolls-Royce Trent 700 to power an additional fleet of up to eight Airbus A330s, due for delivery from 2011. Including a TotalCare long-term services agreement, the contract is valued at around USD500 million at list prices.
Rolls Royce just keep on grabbing more and more business lately. Since the 787 program has already suffered numerous delays, I'm sure that RR is more then happy to grab some more Trent 500/700/800 deals in the mean time.
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 1):
These days its only newsworthy if an airline selects any other engine for the A330
How very true.
Quoting PM (Reply 4):
OK. Then Afiqiyah choosing GE counts?
Interesting. I was not aware of this deal. But still nice to see a variety of engines from time to time. One would also expect to see GE jump onboard the A332F, if the USAF KC45 deal is approved.
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 5): slightly OT, but what became of MS's A346 order?
With outstanding orders for 77W, have they given the official heave-hoe to those disgusting quads... or are they still in Airbus-style limbo?
Disgusting? Yeah right. Just about the best looking quads in the sky. But can't really blame you for lack of taste.
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 7):
What really amazes me is the fact the A330 has deliveries still coming scheduled out until 2013, even 2015. Seems the 787 and A350 should have taken over completely by then. The A332 will be 13 years old in 2011.
We also have the possibility of Airbus opting to equip the A330 family with GENX in the future, which will give it yet another breath of life into the program.
PM From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 5046 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 708 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 8): We also have the possibility of Airbus opting to equip the A330 family with GENX in the future, which will give it yet another breath of life into the program.
Why do you specify the GEnx but not the Trent 1000?
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 733 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 696 times:
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 5): slightly OT, but what became of MS's A346 order?
Quoting PM (Reply 6): Cancelled some time ago in favour, I believe, of the original order for RR-powered A330s.
As PM mentioned , this order was cancelled in favour of the 7 A330's the Airline is currently operating , Egyptair decided at that time it needed more frequency than capacity .
Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):
Rolls Royce just keep on grabbing more and more business lately
I was onboard of one of those MS Trent powered A330's last year , very powerful engines .
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 74 Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 696 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 9):
Why do you specify the GEnx but not the Trent 1000?
Because the GENX comes in both Bleed (748) and Bleedless (787) option. The GENX version offered on the 748i/F would be just about perfect for the A330 family.
Has Rolls Royce ever offered a bleed version of the Trent 1000 for the A330 family?
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 74 Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 655 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 12):
No. But nor have GE. RR did offer a bleed version for the 747. I'm sure they'd put it on the A330 if asked!
GE has offered the GENX for the A332F, but abandoned the study due to its complexity. If the KC45 deal is approved, Im sure that the USAF, NG/Airbus and GE will look into this option in the future, especially at the number of frames being ordered would pay off the investment.
GE, which says it has discussed possible applications on the A330 of the advanced technology GEnx, now in final development for the Boeing 787 and 747-8, says proposals are now focused on the CF6-80E1. It says "GE has responded to the request for proposals on the A330F and is continuing to provide technical data".
Flight International understands that plans for the potential GEnx application are thought to have foundered over cost and complexity of adapting the engine to the A330 wing and strut.
Fruitbat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 252 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 504 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 8): We also have the possibility of Airbus opting to equip the A330 family with GENX in the future
Quoting WINGS (Reply 13): Flight International understands that plans for the potential GEnx application are thought to have foundered over cost and complexity of adapting the engine to the A330 wing and strut.
Even with the tanker volumes the cost and complexity of adapting / developing a GEnX for the A330 may not work out as a viable business case. I'll stick my neck out and say that:
(a) the technical complexity and difficulty level;
(b) the state of the relationship between Airbus and GE over the GEnX for the A350; and
(c) the howls of complaint if GE effectively used defence (US Government) funding to blatantly cross-subsidise development of a civillian engine application;
means that there won't be a A330 powered by the GEnX.
Anyway, pointing out the obvious - the winning tanker bid was based on CF6's for the lifetime of the airframes - why spend serious money developing anything else if you can just use the cheaper, older technology and maximise your profits and cash that way?
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Yeah right. Just about the best looking quads in the sky. But can't really blame you for lack of taste. 
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