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D.B. Cooper's Parachute May Have Been Found.  
User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10497 times:

This from FOX News:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341551,00.html

Very interesting.  scratchchin 


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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10507 times:

WOW it would be very intresting if this is it and if they can find weather he survived the jump or not.


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User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1256 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10346 times:

Quoting A380US (Reply 1):
WOW it would be very intresting if this is it and if they can find weather he survived the jump or not.

It should be quite easy to determine whether it's at least the right type of chute. The FBI was very careful to record the details of everything given to Cooper (down to the individual serial numbers on the bills). I'm sure they'd know what chute they were looking for. The town of Amboy, WA, referred to in the story, is 40 miles from where the bills that were discovered in 1980 in the river were located (but would also be downstream of the money, meaning that the bills would likely have had to have been carried to the location). It's also within about 5 miles of where the original estimates of the jump site were.

Cooper's chutes had both a chest and a back pack. It'll be interesting to see what they can dig up of the rest of this thing. If it's the right chute, the absence or presence of that stuff would give you a good indication of whether he survived the jump. There are, of course, a million questions this story doesn't answer. It'll be interesting to see how it develops.

[Edited 2008-03-25 20:06:07]

User currently offlineTennis69 From Qatar, joined Apr 2007, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10354 times:
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If it was burried as the article states and they can determine that it is the parachute he used then my guess is he survived. Parachutes don't bury themselves.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10376 times:

Another link for those of you with a fox news phobia

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...KKOD&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

There is an issue though. If this is where he landed then the $5800 that was found in the Colombia River couldn't have come from there. I can't find my atlas to check, but I am pretty sure the money was found upstream of this chute.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10351 times:



Quoting IADCA (Reply 2):
The town of Amboy, WA, referred to in the story, is not far from where the bills that were discovered in 1980 in the river were located. It's also within about 5 miles of where the original estimates of the jump site were.

Yeah but isn't it downstream of where the money was found?

Quoting Tennis69 (Reply 3):
Parachutes don't bury themselves

I dunno, it is amazing how quickly something can disapear under several seasons of leaves falling.



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User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1256 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10256 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 5):
Quoting IADCA (Reply 2):
The town of Amboy, WA, referred to in the story, is not far from where the bills that were discovered in 1980 in the river were located. It's also within about 5 miles of where the original estimates of the jump site were.

Yeah but isn't it downstream of where the money was found?

See the edit. It is indeed, and it's further than I thought. It's on the order of 35 or 40 miles. It would seem that the only real plausible scenario of the money and this chute is of Cooper surviving the jump, followed by an upstream hike. A burial of money and then a 35 mile hike dragging a chute just doesn't pass the laugh test.

What occurs to me is that the flightpath Cooper wanted originally (SEA- MEX, then SEA-RNO) would have taken him east of where the flightpath actually took him; but he talked to the pilots and would have known this. If he was trying to meet an accomplice, he therefore would have had to go upstream from where he jumped. The trouble with this, of course, is that there's no evidence of an accomplice, and the flight paths for MEX and RNO are VERY different, even taking into account the air corridors around the mountains. However, either one is well east of where the chute was found. Given that Cooper seemed to have some knowledge of the area, it is possible that his intended destination was along the river somewhere between those two paths (which he would have to had have thought out beforehand). That assumption would take Cooper on a roughly 100-mile upriver hike to someplace between the two paths, all while carrying 25 pounds of money and possibly lacking shoes. The site the money was found would be along that hike.

What would be a possible explanation for the location of the present chute, the money, and the lack of any money in circulation would be that he survived the jump, hiked that far, buried the money, and then either died trying to get the rest of the way to civilization or was never able to get back to get the money.

Given that it requires a LONG hike in bad weather over rough terrain, I'm pretty damn skeptical, but I suppose it's possible. If he had a good pair of shoes/boots in his briefcase with the "bomb"....

Just some fun speculation...


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10167 times:
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Another interesting thing that this would reveal is that he used the reserve chute to descend. He asked for 2 main chutes and 2 reserves, and left one of each on board. However, it was later discovered that the second main chute (the one NOT left on the plane) was a display parachute bag, and was sewn shut so that it couldn't be used. Must be tough to descend in a parachute, with those weather conditions, into a wooded area, holding a briefcase/bag full of 200,000 dollars.

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10039 times:



Quoting IADCA (Reply 6):
What would be a possible explanation for the location of the present chute, the money, and the lack of any money in circulation would be that he survived the jump, hiked that far, buried the money, and then either died trying to get the rest of the way to civilization or was never able to get back to get the money.

Given that it requires a LONG hike in bad weather over rough terrain, I'm pretty damn skeptical, but I suppose it's possible. If he had a good pair of shoes/boots in his briefcase with the "bomb"....

Here is a thought.....he dropped the bag when the chute opened.

Happened to enough guys over Normandie on D-day....why not him?



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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9903 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
Here is a thought.....he dropped the bag when the chute opened.

I severely doubt that the descend on the chute would have displaced him by 40 miles from where the chute opened...



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User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1256 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9507 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
Here is a thought.....he dropped the bag when the chute opened.

Not likely. The plane was flying somewhere around a 180 heading at the time, so one of the points would necessarily have to be 40 miles off the plane's flight path. What would seem more likely to get a 40 mile difference is that he threw the money out and then jumped a few minutes later, but the fact that they're not along the same flight path seems to knock that one out. Add to that the fact that chute, which would be the one capable of drift, is at the probable drop zone, and the money, which would not drift on the way down, is not, the drift-on-the-way-down theory seems improbable.

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 9):
I severely doubt that the descend on the chute would have displaced him by 40 miles from where the chute opened...

Right on. But what's with haggis and a German flag?


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9442 times:

Id loved for him to survived. hes a ledgend. if he is alive why doesnt he come forward? woulkdnt he be treated more like a celebrity than a crook?

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9382 times:

I'm fully expecting that the authorities determine that this is NOT DB's chute, thus leaving the mystery intact until the next piece of tantalizing evidence exposes itself. Short of digging up his remains, the FBI is never going be sure of what happened to him, and Mt. St. Helens seemingly took care of covering any further potential evidence near the location of the original money find. Perhaps the biggest clue to DB's survival (if the FBI is correct) is that none of the cash given to him was ever circulated. Thieves typically don't risk life and limb hijacking planes for cash and then never spend the loot - unless they are dead - so the odds are definitely against him. Of course, he could have survived and somehow become separated from his booty but I find this to be a pretty good longshot, at best.

Part of me hopes that this is DB Cooper's parachute to shed some further light on this intriguing mystery. But I'm not holding my breath....



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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9243 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 11):
woulkdnt he be treated more like a celebrity than a crook?

No. He would be arrested, tried, and put in jail for terrorism.



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9196 times:

Shame, Id like to see him exonerated and able to tell his story and for us to be able to buy the book and film.

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9178 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 14):
Shame, Id like to see him exonerated and able to tell his story and for us to be able to buy the book and film.

well, he is actually a terrorist. If he is alive, he is just an old terrorist, but still a terrorist.

I'm sure he could have moved to S. America or somewhere to avoid extradition, similar to what the Great Train robbers did in the UK....



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9176 times:

His must be a fascinating story. Hope he is alive and will one day tell it.

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9011 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
His must be a fascinating story. Hope he is alive and will one day tell it.

Considering he must be over 75 years old, I'd say time is running out. Besides, several different people have come forward to claim being the real D.B. Cooper and most of the time it is more wishful thinking in fantasyland than anything else.



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User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8661 times:

If it is not his parachute, who's is it? An open parachute buried in a field does seem to require a little explaining.......

Mike


User currently offlineEXMEMWIDGET From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

I saw a TV program recently that was about a man who attempted a Cooper like hijacking. I don't remember the name of the show or the hijacker's name, but he was successful in getting the money and parachuting from the aircraft (UAL, I believe). He ending up getting caught by the police/FBI some time later and died in an ensuing shootout. What was very strange is that the guy resembled the well publicized sketch of Cooper. Does anyone remember anything about this?

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8479 times:



Quoting EXMEMWIDGET (Reply 19):
What was very strange is that the guy resembled the well publicized sketch of Cooper. Does anyone remember anything about this?

Hardly the authoritative source for information but it works in this case. The man involved in the Denver incident was Richard McCoy, Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_McCoy%2C_Jr.



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User currently offlinePeterPuck From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 323 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7561 times:

Maybe it is his chute. I think "DB" left his car in a parking lot near Portland airport. Walked to the airport, carried out the hi-jacking, and planned to jump out as close as possible to the north of Portland. If you look at where this chute was found, it would only be about a 10 mile hike west to the interstate. Then he could hitch a ride to Portland, get in his car and disappear. On the drive out of town he buried the loot or throw some in the river to throw off the scent. That explains the money that was found years later. I think he made it.

User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6510 times:

CNN has a story on it including a picture of a date and serial number on the parachute. It's printed with a date of Feb. 21st, 1946, and has the number 30755......(it fades away). Any parachute experts care to add some insight?



Link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/26/cooper.chute.ap/index.html


User currently offlineDenverDanny From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 6132 times:

Speculation ahead...

I wonder if the people who live in the area are hiding anything. What if he failed to survive the jump and the locals found him and WHOA a whole lot of money? Why not keep it and bury the evidence? The money that was found by the boy near the river seems suspicious to me. They just happened to disturb the ground exactly where the money was? Well what do you know! If you can't spend stolen money, and can't claim it, why not wait until you can auction it and make some money?

Look, we can't suddenly show up with all the money at the FBI. Hmm, let's bury SOME of it and then say we found it, and then maybe the FBI will let us keep it! Yeah, and by saying we found it somewhere away from where we found the body that will put the authorities off our trail! Hmm... I wonder if Brian Ingram has relatives in the area.


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days ago) and read 6033 times:



Quoting N353SK (Reply 22):
......(it fades away). Any parachute experts care to add some insight?

They might want to get Ralph Hatley to take a look at it. Very few people know as much about old parachute gear as he does and he's located just east of Portland in Eagle Creek and only about fifty miles from where they found the gear.

They also might bring in Dan Poynter. He literally wrote the books used to train riggers for the last 30+ years and knows this gear inside and out like few others.

Not that it's relevant but both are great guys as well.



Where are all of my respected members going?
25 Legacytravel : Why not. How about walking or escaping to that point. If he survived that money could have been placed anywhere. Mark in MKE
26 Post contains links L-188 : Well they di get a hold of Earl Cossey who packed the 4 chutes that DB got....He doesn't seem to think that this one is a match. http://seattlepi.nws
27 Rwy04LGA : Try finding the movie 'The Pursuit of DB Cooper' with Treat Williams and Robert Duvall. It gives insight into what COULD have happened.
28 Post contains links DODCFR : OH WELL!! Looks like we may never know just what happened. http://www.kirotv.com/news/15762273/detail.html VANCOUVER, Wash. -- A parachute found near
29 Post contains links TN757Flyer : This posted earlier this evening. The Fibbie's say it's not Cooper's parachute. The mystery remains. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_re_us/c
30 Richierich : I'm of the belief that this parachute is not D.B.'s. A mysterious find for sure but there could be other explanations. I'm going to guess that the tru
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