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AA's "new" Economy?  
User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 11
Posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Hi i was just wondering if anyone has tried AA's economy class with MORE space? i've heard that there's between 32-36" pitch. Why such a large veriation? I have travelled with AA once from Heathrow - JFK and back out on a A300 and back on 767. And i must say that it was proberley the worst flights i've ever had! I've had more room on JAL domestic! (not exactly but too close!)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
So whats it like with more space? Did you notice it?
Let me know as i'm planning a trip from London - Los Angeles and i'm wondering about AA.
Thanks
Dan


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User currently offlineQantasA330 From Iraq, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

Nothing special.... Trust me I took AA from LHR-MIA... and It wasn't much better if at all. The trip was pretty crappy... I'd take UAL or Virgin... I've flown them heaps from LHR-LAX... They have far better service and room... crew was nicer too. My thoughts anywayz Smile

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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

It was really kind of wierd. This December I flew SAN-ORD-BRU and CDG-ORD-SAN on AA. The change in seat pitch is VERY noticeable on the domestic aircraft...it almost feels like you are sitting in first class compared to before. On the international flights however, both on 763s, I am not quite sure if AA had converted the planes I was flying on yet. It kind of felt like I had 33' of pitch instead of 35' or 31-32'. But it was still comfortable.

Compared to BA however, I think I would prefer them to AA. But that's probably just because I have flown AA more than BA.
 Smile
Aaron G.



User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5615 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

They advertise it as "100% of our two-class fleet has more room throughout coach"- which sounds, by implication, like "if you're flying international, scrunch up like always.

Although my experience flying from Paris to DFW on AA 767 was quite good, almost good enough to offset the living hell that was the flight over from ORD-Paris (before no-smoking, sat next to a chain-smoking Frenchman, never seen such a thing!).



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User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

The problem I noticed in this topic is that most of these flights are on either 763 or A300. And unfortunetly only 100% of the narrowbody (al'la MD-83,752,738,F100, and some of the Domstic 762) are totally complete with the more room thru coach. It's taking a little longer on the 777,763, and the rest of the 762 because they also are reconfiguring 1st and Business at the same time. Hopefully before the end of the year All our AC with bhave the new seating configuration.


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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

Geez...whats taking A'A so long to do their seat conversions. UA had economy plus done within a few months, and now about 1/3 of the international fleet has gone through re-configuration.

User currently offlineDanv1982 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

I think it's kinda obvious There trying to get as much money out of the seats they have to remove before they take them out!
I think i'm just gona take this little beuti!
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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
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Oh I just flew on American this past week and I really did feel the added legroom in coach. I flew on a 727 from Newark to DFW and the aircraft was completely refurbished, it had the new dark blue seats and the walls around the windows were replaced with the newer ones (white walls instead of those old brown walls dating from the 70's), I felt like I was flying on a brand new aircraft that had just come out of the factory !!! In economy class, I felt almost as comfortable as in first class, I could easily take my shoes off and stretch my legs!
The are two things I'm impressed about American's 727's: the new interiors with the added legroom, and the quiet sound of the engines at take off (I was seated in row 13)
Kudos to the employees of American Airlines who worked on refurbishing their planes!

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User currently offlineHugo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

I LIKE American's "more room throughout coach". THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN COMFORT. Granted there is some variation in with the various aircraft types, but over-all, American's coach is FAR MORE COMFORTABLE than United Economy. If I had to fly a US major, it will be on American.

User currently offlineLogos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

I flew AA in December/January from Zurich to DFW and back on a 777 and there was more room in coach. The pitch was about 33" if I had to guess. By contrast, I've flown BA from London to the U.S. and it's almost worse than Southwest - about a 30" pitch. The seatback video might as well have been a visor. Lufthansa, which for years was much better, is now also reduced pitch. Some friends of mine recently flew Sabena and said it, too, was really tight.

I'd say if you're flying Trans-Atlantic economy, AA has given you a reason to choose them over the competition. I'd fly them again if I had a choice.

Cheers,
Dave in Berlin



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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

AA has all of its domestic flights with more room,
and a couple of more months international will be too.
u cant compare ba with aa in first because ba is for more better. but in coach AA is the place to be on
long flights, no other airline has the leg room they have
not even ua. ua has just 5 rows of seats in coach that have more space, AA has all its coach cabin with room!
if u are going in coach AA is the place to be, virgin is the top dog when it comes to first class pampering.




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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1140 times:
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My father and sister have flown AA's MRTC aircraft and both have said that they intend to try to take AA whenever they can as a result (sort of hard out of DEN, though)...

UA's Economy Plus is a joke and an insult to those who don't make UA's arbitrary 'valued customer' cut.


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1138 times:

I agree 100% flashmeister!


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User currently offlineFlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Not a single 777 has gotten the new coach. Thats why people who have flown on them lately say they don't notice a difference, because there is none. People who say they have been on a refitted 777 are most likely big AA fans but are F.O.S. 23 out of the 40 international 767-300s have been refitted and out of all there 767s, 61 of 79 have been done. All A300s have been refitted. Hopefully that helps.


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User currently offlineRWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1106 times:

AA's leg room was always good, but now it's better than ever. If you got a problem with that, why don't you go back to flying BA when you want to leave London for the United States?

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8037 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

Anyway, AA's fleet of 727's, 737's, S80's, and F100's have all gotten the "More Room Throughout Coach" treatment.

Believe me, having 34" or slightly more of legroom on these planes makes a HUGE difference, especially on flights of two hours or more. I believe the new 737-800's AA are now flying are configured with about 135-140 seats in the MRTC configuration.

AA is in the process of applying MRTC to their International planes, and should be complete by late this year.

The fact that passengers no longer gripe at AA about "cattle car class" in Coach is already worth it to AA employees.  Smile


User currently offlineBlink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5485 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

The difference is HUGE, I was on an MD-80 DFW-YVR and back, and the plane had new interiors and new reconfiguration. It made such a difference compared to a shorter DFW-LGA and LGA-DFW flight on 757 with the old interiors and no legroom. Go AA!
rgds,
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User currently offlineCNBC2001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1089 times:

I'm 6'3 and I travelled in a 757 from Vancouver to Dallas last summer. I had seen all the ads about how much more space there was and I was kind of excited about that. Sure enough, it was horrible! I saw no change.

But, on the return flight, I made an observation. My knees did not touch the seat in fornt of me. It was sooooooo good. It has made a real difference.

I guess that my first plane I was had not yet been outfitted with the new seating arrangement.


User currently offlineEnginesRUs From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

Actually, as far as AA's single-aisle fleet is concerned, there's a bit of bait-and-switch going on. Only their older airplanes such as the F100s, 727s, and MD80s--which are gradually being retired over time--have the really copious amounts of legroom such as 33-34". The brand new 737s, backbone of their future fleet, only have 32" of legroom. True, it's more than the 30-31" of space on other airlines or the old AA for that matter but it's certainly not 34"...

User currently offline1011 FAN From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

I have to agree with EnginesRUs. The 727s and MD80s that Ive flown on of AA were great. Alot of room. But the 738s still suck bad, even after being "reconfigured" Its a dark looking future looking at AAs future fleet if the 738s are to be the backbone. I hate them.

User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

The new economy is much better than before in terms of legroom. Although I am a BA frequent flier I have to say that the new economy seats on AA are more spacious. After all the bitching they receive, I think we should take our hats off to AA and congratulate them on getting something right. Once they fit the whole fleet with the new seats they will definitely be my first choice US carrier, and will compete on a more even footing with the big European and Asian carriers.


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User currently offlineBlink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5485 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1042 times:

1011 fan- AA is redoing the fleet by type. When you flew on a 738, there is a chance that AA might not have gotten to them yet.
rgds,
blink182



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