Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 24 Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
I didn't know the AUS-SJC route was so popular that it has gone to 4x daily. I hope AA expands more out of Austin to other cities on the West Coast such as SEA, SNA, SAN, etc in competition with Southwest, which owns these markets.
Redraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1083 times:
I wish they had an AUS-NYC non-stop instead of having to go through Houston Hobby.
My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
Ishky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1059 times:
American sure operates ALOT of point-to-point routes across the US. I have no doubt, however, that they could pursue nearly any route across our country and make it profitable due to their ability to place a wide variety of aircraft on that particular route. For example, if they wanted to launch service in the Seattle-Sacramento market, they could iniate service with a MD-80, 757, or maybe even an ERJ. If these flights got completely oversold, however, they could even upgrade to a 767-200 because of their versatile fleet. But this is just an example.....
ABQ757 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 293 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1027 times:
I have noticed how AA can make money on just about any route. They should start more routes out of ABQ, like LAX or even SJC to compete with Southwest. But it seems like Southwest has too much of a dominant force here for any airline to start service here from any Southwest city. We do need more non-stops out to the east coast like JFK, EWR, DCA, or IAD. It would be really cool if JetBlue decided to come here, because I feel that they would be really successful. The only non-stop east coast routes (Excluding Florida) we have is a Saturday ABQ-EWR route on CO, and a daily ABQ-BWI on Southwest.
CannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
Redraider,
AA can't have an AUS-LGA trip....it is too far in relationship to the LGA perimeter rule (by 17 miles).
ABQ757,
If AA entered the ABQ market with any additional trips, it would be a bloodbath. Southwest would kill any hopes of retaining any trips as ABQ in itself is not a profitable market. Heck, if Reno couldn't make a go of it, I seriously think that AA could fair much better.
Ishky,
AA doesn't really have a lot of point to point service other than in markets that are focus cities like BOS, SJC, AUS, LGA or LAX. SJC-AUS is a perfect example with both cities being focus cities. Additionally, there is much more to putting aircraft types on particular routes than just load fators. In fact, route dynamics can sway greatly based on just the type of aircraft used witout a relationship to load factor....and a high load factor does not mean that there should be a higher guage of aircraft.
AAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 985 times:
AA used to operate an AUS-MIA route a few years back. What ever became of that?
AA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 973 times:
AAtripleseven:
I wonder myself whatever happened to the MIA-AUS service.
I'm glad to see that the BOS-AUS service is being reinstated. Should be VERY succesful (if for business alone). I have had to stop at ORD or DFW many times on my way between AUS and BOS.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31112 posts, RR: 74 Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 936 times:
I was just going to talk about the MIA-AUS service. Why was it discountined? Austin and Miami are both big tech cities. That is why American added MIA-SJC. The time is right for MIA-AUS to return. The new AA hub at MIA, when ready, will be able to handle 330 American Airlines (not Eagle) flights daily, compared to 192 right now. I'm sure MIA-AUS is a route they will explore.
Toxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 938 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 933 times:
AA coudn't make a go of HOU-AUS or DAL-AUS. Point to point service they launched with much fanfare from HOU to DCA got discontinued. Either Southwest kills them or the lack of feed from a hub airport really shows...
LoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3637 posts, RR: 38 Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 923 times:
This is actually a smart move on AA's part. According to an article last year, Dallas, Houston and San Jose are the top three destinations out of Austin.
That same article made reference to AA's AUS-MIA service which had been offered at the old airport:
Kazanoff says the airport hopes to gain further access south of the border by re-establishing a nonstop flight on American Airlines to Miami -- a gateway to Latin America. At one time, that route had been offered at the old Robert Mueller Municipal Airport, but American canceled it because of lack of ridership, she says.
October traffic on AA was down 7%, November traffic was down 3% and December's traffic was down 4%. For calendar year 2000, AA's traffic was up only 3% the lowest increase of the eight major airlines flying out of Austin last year. Hopefully the new service to BOS and the additional n/s to SJC will change that.
Bigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 904 times:
My mom does AUS-SJC at least 2-3 times a month... usually leaves AUS early in the morning for a 1 hour meeting and then flies back in the afternoon. The company really pays out of the ass for it too.. usually >$1500. AA must be making a killing with 3 packed 757's going back and forth everyday. These flights are always packed.
TheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 880 times:
I really thought the "tech people" were making it less necessary to travel with video conferencing, DSL, etc, etc.
OT - Recently, a friend arranged a semi-live video conference with 30-plus employees in Calgary, Tulsa, Houston and Phoenix. He estimates that he saved his department over $40,000 in travel expenses alone.
Beware, the end is near...for one-day, one hour meetings, two time zones away.
AA-SAN From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 836 times:
Hey... I can't find any info about the LAX-SJD flight... where did you find out about it FlyAA757??? I make this trip yearly, and it's going to be nice to have another option.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31112 posts, RR: 74 Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 819 times:
TheCroupier, among Miami's tech and internet companies based here or with large operations...
Citrix Systems
Fusion Networks
Bell South Telecom LA
AOL Latin America (AOLA; an AOL joint venture)
sportsline.com
hollywood.com
Telefonica US
Fifth Avenue Channel (Internet TV)
yupi.com (what Yahoo! is to English, Yupi is to Spanish)
Vector
IVAX Biotech
Lucent Technologies (large campus in Miramar, a suburb)
Hewlett Packard (large offices, 12 storey building next to MIA in fact)
AT&T Broadband
Not to mention, Miami was chosen as the host city for Microsoft's first ever Global Conference, in which over 12,000 people will be welcome to Miami for the convention. And the list goes on. With over 5,500 tech companies, only the Bay Area and New York City have more tech companies than Miami does. None the less, this is going way off topic, but Miami, thanks soley to it's Latin proximity, has grown to become a major technology centre, especially when it comes to the Telecom indsutry, in which it was ranked the #5 Telecom Centre in the world by America's Network.
TheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 810 times:
I've no doubt that many tech companies have chosen Miami for significant investment. I just think "tech center" label is being applied to liberally or with little definition of what technology actually encompasses.
But you're right, we've kind of strayed afield of "AA New Service"
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31112 posts, RR: 74 Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 804 times:
Your right Croupier, the tech label is being used very liberally nowadays, but the definition of "tech" is chaning as well. I know I sounded a little too defensive, but it's only because I'm fed up of all these people who assume Miami's biggest industry is tourism. It's not. That's Miami Beach's biggest industry. Miami's biggest industry is Banking and Financing. None the less, back to the topic. I do feel that the time is right to at least try out an MIA-AUS service once again. MIA-RDU service, operated twice daily by American and, effective next week, three times daily by Midway (plus Midway service out of FLL), has been very succsesful, and I feel Raleigh and Austin are two quite similar cities. One thing I still don't understand, however, is why there is no MIA-San Antonio service.
Toxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 938 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 776 times:
Apparently every flight from anywhere to San Jose is a 'nerd bird'...
I can recall five years ago Austinites were insisting "if we only had service to San Jose, we could fill every flight". How right they were!
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5430 posts, RR: 19 Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 769 times:
SJC is no longer a focus city for AA, I think it is safe for them to be able to call it a hub. AUS-SJC is very popular because of all of the high-tech markets in Austin and San Jose. In Austin you have Dell and in San Jose, you have countless high-tech companies. They should add a 4th, or possibly even a 5th flight between those two cities.
With AUS, AA can't really get big there, as AA is humongus at DFW, and if AA grows at AUS, there will be "internal competition".
rgds,
blink182
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
CannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 758 times:
Blink,
I don't agree. SJC is not a hub for AA. Yes, there are 75 flights a day out of SJC, but the sheer number of flights alone do not make it a hub. Heck, LAX has more flights a day than SJC and that is still a focus city and not a hub as well. What makes SJC not a hub is the lack of a connecting bank structure. With the exception of the afternoon period, any connections that are built at SJC are more of a product of service levels and aircraft utilization rather than the intentional building of connections. Yes, there is a connecting structure at SJC for the NRT and future TPE flight, but one connecting "bank" does not make a hub. Therefore, I would ne uneasy calling SJC a hub. Infact, if you asked the schedulers at AA, I am sure they would be uneasy calling SJC a hub as well.
25 Trvlr: Even though it isn't yet regarded as one by AA, I would not be that uncomfortable calling SJC a hub. With the addition of the TPE and CDG flights, SJC
26 TheCroupier: Mah4546, Well, I can undoubtedly agree with you - AA needs a San Antonio-Miami flight. Although, I suspect SA will come up short - for the time being.
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