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User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Additional service at AUS...

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010213/tx_america_2.html


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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

I didn't know the AUS-SJC route was so popular that it has gone to 4x daily. I hope AA expands more out of Austin to other cities on the West Coast such as SEA, SNA, SAN, etc in competition with Southwest, which owns these markets.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

I wish they had an AUS-NYC non-stop instead of having to go through Houston Hobby.


My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

American sure operates ALOT of point-to-point routes across the US. I have no doubt, however, that they could pursue nearly any route across our country and make it profitable due to their ability to place a wide variety of aircraft on that particular route. For example, if they wanted to launch service in the Seattle-Sacramento market, they could iniate service with a MD-80, 757, or maybe even an ERJ. If these flights got completely oversold, however, they could even upgrade to a 767-200 because of their versatile fleet. But this is just an example.....

User currently offlineABQ757 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1740 times:

I have noticed how AA can make money on just about any route. They should start more routes out of ABQ, like LAX or even SJC to compete with Southwest. But it seems like Southwest has too much of a dominant force here for any airline to start service here from any Southwest city. We do need more non-stops out to the east coast like JFK, EWR, DCA, or IAD. It would be really cool if JetBlue decided to come here, because I feel that they would be really successful. The only non-stop east coast routes (Excluding Florida) we have is a Saturday ABQ-EWR route on CO, and a daily ABQ-BWI on Southwest.

Gabe


User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Redraider,

AA can't have an AUS-LGA trip....it is too far in relationship to the LGA perimeter rule (by 17 miles).

ABQ757,

If AA entered the ABQ market with any additional trips, it would be a bloodbath. Southwest would kill any hopes of retaining any trips as ABQ in itself is not a profitable market. Heck, if Reno couldn't make a go of it, I seriously think that AA could fair much better.

Ishky,

AA doesn't really have a lot of point to point service other than in markets that are focus cities like BOS, SJC, AUS, LGA or LAX. SJC-AUS is a perfect example with both cities being focus cities. Additionally, there is much more to putting aircraft types on particular routes than just load fators. In fact, route dynamics can sway greatly based on just the type of aircraft used witout a relationship to load factor....and a high load factor does not mean that there should be a higher guage of aircraft.

Mike


User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

CannedSpam,
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. Do you know by how many miles Hobby is within the LGA perimeter?



My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Was the perimeter rule modified? At one time Braniff operated a daily 727 San Antonio - LGA nonstop. 1978-ish

User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

AA used to operate an AUS-MIA route a few years back. What ever became of that?

User currently offlineAA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

AAtripleseven:

I wonder myself whatever happened to the MIA-AUS service.

I'm glad to see that the BOS-AUS service is being reinstated. Should be VERY succesful (if for business alone). I have had to stop at ORD or DFW many times on my way between AUS and BOS.

Best,

AA@DFW


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32871 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

I was just going to talk about the MIA-AUS service. Why was it discountined? Austin and Miami are both big tech cities. That is why American added MIA-SJC. The time is right for MIA-AUS to return. The new AA hub at MIA, when ready, will be able to handle 330 American Airlines (not Eagle) flights daily, compared to 192 right now. I'm sure MIA-AUS is a route they will explore.


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User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

AA coudn't make a go of HOU-AUS or DAL-AUS. Point to point service they launched with much fanfare from HOU to DCA got discontinued. Either Southwest kills them or the lack of feed from a hub airport really shows...

User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3829 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

This is actually a smart move on AA's part. According to an article last year, Dallas, Houston and San Jose are the top three destinations out of Austin.

That same article made reference to AA's AUS-MIA service which had been offered at the old airport:

Kazanoff says the airport hopes to gain further access south of the border by re-establishing a nonstop flight on American Airlines to Miami -- a gateway to Latin America. At one time, that route had been offered at the old Robert Mueller Municipal Airport, but American canceled it because of lack of ridership, she says.

Here's the whole article from March of 2000:

http://austin.bcentral.com/austin/stories/2000/03/27/story7.html

Although AA is the #2 carrier out of AUS, their traffic has been on the decline lately, according to statistics posted on Austin's airport website:

http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/newairport/activity.htm

October traffic on AA was down 7%, November traffic was down 3% and December's traffic was down 4%. For calendar year 2000, AA's traffic was up only 3% the lowest increase of the eight major airlines flying out of Austin last year. Hopefully the new service to BOS and the additional n/s to SJC will change that.

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

Miami, a tech center, that's a good one. Burger King making circuit boards these days?

Actually, the DCA-HOU flights continued to SAT and not Austin.


User currently offlineBigo747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

My mom does AUS-SJC at least 2-3 times a month... usually leaves AUS early in the morning for a 1 hour meeting and then flies back in the afternoon. The company really pays out of the ass for it too.. usually >$1500. AA must be making a killing with 3 packed 757's going back and forth everyday. These flights are always packed.

User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

I really thought the "tech people" were making it less necessary to travel with video conferencing, DSL, etc, etc.

OT - Recently, a friend arranged a semi-live video conference with 30-plus employees in Calgary, Tulsa, Houston and Phoenix. He estimates that he saved his department over $40,000 in travel expenses alone.

Beware, the end is near...for one-day, one hour meetings, two time zones away.


User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Other new AA service announced this week:

B738 MIA-Maracaibo
M80 LAX-Cabo


User currently offlineAA-SAN From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Hey... I can't find any info about the LAX-SJD flight... where did you find out about it FlyAA757??? I make this trip yearly, and it's going to be nice to have another option.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32871 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

TheCroupier, among Miami's tech and internet companies based here or with large operations...

Citrix Systems
Fusion Networks
Bell South Telecom LA
AOL Latin America (AOLA; an AOL joint venture)
sportsline.com
hollywood.com
Telefonica US
Fifth Avenue Channel (Internet TV)
yupi.com (what Yahoo! is to English, Yupi is to Spanish)
Vector
IVAX Biotech
Lucent Technologies (large campus in Miramar, a suburb)
Hewlett Packard (large offices, 12 storey building next to MIA in fact)
AT&T Broadband

Not to mention, Miami was chosen as the host city for Microsoft's first ever Global Conference, in which over 12,000 people will be welcome to Miami for the convention. And the list goes on. With over 5,500 tech companies, only the Bay Area and New York City have more tech companies than Miami does. None the less, this is going way off topic, but Miami, thanks soley to it's Latin proximity, has grown to become a major technology centre, especially when it comes to the Telecom indsutry, in which it was ranked the #5 Telecom Centre in the world by America's Network.



a.
User currently offlineTheCroupier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

I've no doubt that many tech companies have chosen Miami for significant investment. I just think "tech center" label is being applied to liberally or with little definition of what technology actually encompasses.

But you're right, we've kind of strayed afield of "AA New Service"

regards



User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32871 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Your right Croupier, the tech label is being used very liberally nowadays, but the definition of "tech" is chaning as well. I know I sounded a little too defensive, but it's only because I'm fed up of all these people who assume Miami's biggest industry is tourism. It's not. That's Miami Beach's biggest industry. Miami's biggest industry is Banking and Financing. None the less, back to the topic. I do feel that the time is right to at least try out an MIA-AUS service once again. MIA-RDU service, operated twice daily by American and, effective next week, three times daily by Midway (plus Midway service out of FLL), has been very succsesful, and I feel Raleigh and Austin are two quite similar cities. One thing I still don't understand, however, is why there is no MIA-San Antonio service.


a.
User currently offlineImkeww From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

AA's hugely successful flights from SJC-AUS are affectionately called the "Nerd Birds".

FYI.

-imk


User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Apparently every flight from anywhere to San Jose is a 'nerd bird'...

I can recall five years ago Austinites were insisting "if we only had service to San Jose, we could fill every flight". How right they were!


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

SJC is no longer a focus city for AA, I think it is safe for them to be able to call it a hub. AUS-SJC is very popular because of all of the high-tech markets in Austin and San Jose. In Austin you have Dell and in San Jose, you have countless high-tech companies. They should add a 4th, or possibly even a 5th flight between those two cities.
With AUS, AA can't really get big there, as AA is humongus at DFW, and if AA grows at AUS, there will be "internal competition".
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

Blink,

I don't agree. SJC is not a hub for AA. Yes, there are 75 flights a day out of SJC, but the sheer number of flights alone do not make it a hub. Heck, LAX has more flights a day than SJC and that is still a focus city and not a hub as well. What makes SJC not a hub is the lack of a connecting bank structure. With the exception of the afternoon period, any connections that are built at SJC are more of a product of service levels and aircraft utilization rather than the intentional building of connections. Yes, there is a connecting structure at SJC for the NRT and future TPE flight, but one connecting "bank" does not make a hub. Therefore, I would ne uneasy calling SJC a hub. Infact, if you asked the schedulers at AA, I am sure they would be uneasy calling SJC a hub as well.


25 Post contains images Trvlr : Even though it isn't yet regarded as one by AA, I would not be that uncomfortable calling SJC a hub. With the addition of the TPE and CDG flights, SJC
26 TheCroupier : Mah4546, Well, I can undoubtedly agree with you - AA needs a San Antonio-Miami flight. Although, I suspect SA will come up short - for the time being.
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