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TOP 10 Most Dangerous Airports To Land? And Why?  
User currently onlineLuxair From Suriname, joined Jan 2001, 848 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 85324 times:

As I said above, what are the most dangerous airports in the world for pilots to perform landings and why? Here we go..... Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Marvin Lee Cooper
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User currently offlineMichigan4life From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 212 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 85026 times:

I'll open up with the obvious...LGA. This needs no real explanation.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84974 times:

I've heard that Juarez Intl. in Mexico City is a tough landing because of nearby mountains. DCA is also a tricky approach because the plane has to avoid government airspace, which required many steep and sharp banks. LGA is a disaster waiting to happen.

User currently onlineLuxair From Suriname, joined Jan 2001, 848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84952 times:

I follow with Athens, some time ago I saw a
report over this airport and pilots where reporting that there was a lot of rubber from the
tires on the runway and when it was raining they said that after the touchdown it was something like skating on ice!!! Oh yeah another one was Punta cana on the Repulica Dominicana. Pilots from
a German charter carrier told that the runway was in a very bad condition!!!



Marvin Lee Cooper
User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84923 times:

I would say AREA 51. Pilots would get shot down if they tried landing there. Would it be dangerous enough?! =)

For real, Former HKG(KAITAK) was very hard to land. the current HKG (CLK) is hard to land too according to CXflyboy. The crosswind coming from the south can create windshear and turn planes around. (a bit exaggerated).

regards,
r panda


User currently offlineTripleseven From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84904 times:

SAN's got to be in the top 5, maybe the top 3. There's that lovely Laurel travel center sitting at the end of 27. Add to that a short runway, and you've got yourself a tricky landing. Especially in high winds or rain.

The FAA calls the building "an obstruction", but does not call it a safety hazard.

I guess they won't until someone tries to park a 737 on the upper parking garage.

Let's all hope that day never comes!


User currently onlineLuxair From Suriname, joined Jan 2001, 848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84890 times:

Hmmm...what about Innsbruck they have a lot of mountains too. I heard that pilots who perform landings their must have a special certificate!


Marvin Lee Cooper
User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 84890 times:

Kai Tak's gone.....
Funchal has had it's runway lenghthened ......

Je ne sais pas!

From personal experience I would vote for:

1.Buenos Aires-Aeroparque Jorge Newbery
(still wondering how the Lapa-crew did to get a fully-loaded 757-200 off that little ***t of a runway)
2.Constanta(Romania)
(Dito with Tarom Il-62's,Tu 154's,B707's)

Cheers,

Marco


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 84876 times:

A guess, Kathmandu due to high terrain clearence requirements, and the fact that both TG and PK have lost a/c on the sides of surrounding mountains there.

User currently offlineBUFjets From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 84854 times:

An AA MD-80 pilot once told me that none are dangerous. Shorter runways, like Orange County are more difficult.

User currently offlineMit From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 84827 times:

There's an airport at the end of some fjord in Alaska. The terrain around the airport rises so steeply that the approach plate (in characteristic aviaion understatement) says "successful missed approach unlikely."

Anybody know which airport this is? (I don't)


User currently offlineThomacf From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 84780 times:

I heard Birmingham, AL was. Pilots have to have landings there on a regular basis, kind of like currency. If they don't, they have to land in a sim. before they fly again in and out of it.

User currently offlineAS737900 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 84758 times:

There's a lot of small airports in Alaska that are dangerous due to mountains, high winds, etc. But the most dangerous (well, difficult) with regular jet service would have to be Juneau since it is an LDA approach to runway 8 and you have to bank 20 degrees to the right right before touchdown, to an airport sitting pretty much at the bottom of a fjord. But there is now a GPS approach that has made things a bit better.

Also Dutch Harbor/Unalaska with it's NDB approach and frequent high winds and 3,900 foot runway. I've heard about landings on a 737 with 40 kt. X-wind there...


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 84715 times:

Lukla, Nepal-no chance for a go-around, due to one end being at the base of a large hill-not to mention on a steep angle, although it only gets choppers and Twin Otters...

Greg



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User currently offlineBluemeatball From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 84707 times:

I would like to suggest two. First, unless things have changed in recent years, Harry S Truman Airport in St. Thomas, VI had one end of a short runway at the ocean and the other end faced a mountain. Secondly, Kanawah (Yeager) Airport, Charleston , WV whose airport is the top of a mountain and the runway runs from cliff to cliff.

User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 84671 times:

St. THomas has gotten better...the hill on the far end of the runway was lowered and the runway was extened to 7,000ft. and offically the airport isn't called Harry S. Truman anymore, it's now Cyril E. King........and for my vote...Beef Island, BVI......that and St. Barts..


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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 84637 times:

Subject line says it all about LGA.
I HATE flying in there.

redngold



Up, up and away!
User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 84641 times:

LGA with Flushing Bay on the other end of a short runway. I've talked to pilots who work with US Airways and DL and CO . Even NYC Mayor Rudolph Guliani said that LGA's runways are too short. Pilots have also complained about John Wayne in Orange County the plane has to be taken in a certain angle so that thewre is no noise so that the rich snobs below don't yap about their golf game being interupted by a loud AA 757. Pilots have complained about DCA because of the restricted airspace to avoid during landing and takeoff which takes your attention from flying the plane.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39831 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84623 times:

How does MKK (Molokai, Hawaii) rank in terms of a challenging airport to fly in out of?


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84644 times:

I read in some magazine that now with Kai-Tak gone, Lugano,Switzerland is now the most dangerous airport. You have to make a full turn around to land, because the one end of the airport is right near a hill you you have to drop 100 feet to land there, or the other end where there is a huge mountain, and you have to come in at about 45 degrees down, which is just suicide pretty much, so you come in over the other end, turn around over the city and land. There is no way to land at the airport without passign over it. Also- London City has a killed glideslope at the end, because of the noise restrictions.

-TWA902fly
Chicago Illinois



life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84631 times:

Cuzco Peru has got to be pretty dangerous. 13,000 feet up so planes taking off suffer a performance hit. It is in a steep valley on all sides, you think you are about to land and then you see the ground fall away from you, the planes actually circle like a corkscrew into the valley.
When I took Faucett into Cuzco, they only flew in the morning (gets too windy later in the day) and only on half empty planes.
An amazing place.




I may be ugly. I may be an American. But don't call me an ugly American.
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8002 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84611 times:

I think there are going to be changes at both SAN and SNA, because both airports are literally accidents waiting to happen.

The takeoff method at SNA is very dangerous, because what happens during the steep climb if you start to experience engine problems? By the time the pilots can regain control it may be too late before the plane hits the ground.  Sad

As for SAN, that building has GOT TO GO. Do we really need to have a plane approaching the airport hit the building with a major loss of life before something is done about it?


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84598 times:

They need to get rid of the noise abatement at SNA. Taking off out of that place is scary, even for experiences flyers. Last time I flew out of there, I was sitting next to a businessman who flies out of SNA all the time, and he says it scary every time.

User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84591 times:

Lindbergh sits in a bowl on one edge of downtown and has a garage just off the RPZ. Park your car there if you dare! And that doesn't even count the Navy jets buzzing nearby...

National has noise constraints on one side and the White House and Congress on the other, so you fly down the middle of the river, hook a right at the USA Today Building and drop right in to a runway that's only 7000 feet long. If you take off in the early morning hours, you have to cut power almost as soon as you're airborne (can't wake up the millionaires in Georgetown or Old Town Alexandria!). DCA handles 250,000 ops a year on what is effectively a one-runway airport


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 84579 times:

London Gatwick (LGW) is pretty hard to land in. For one thing, there are a few somewhat high buildings in-front of the runway, which makes landing quite tricky. Also Gatwick is EXTREMELY congested, so thats another thing that makes it tricky. I was in a British Airways 747-400, landing in Gatwick, and it took quite sometime to touchdown on the runway. Also, when the plane finally came to taxiing speed, we were at the end of the runway.
San Diego is quite dangerous also.
Las Vegas McCarran (LAS) also a bit dangerous because its so close to the strip.

Kind regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
25 US A333 PIT : Kahului Maui(OGG) I've heard is a difficult runway to land on, especially the bigger jets (dc-10's, L1011, 764's, 777's all of which have daily flight
26 SIA fan : Pardon my ignorance, but what airport is SNA?
27 Post contains images Trvlr : I think that one of the major factors that will finally knock some sense into San Diego and get it to start construction on a new airport may be an ac
28 Post contains images AS737900 : SIAfan- SNA=Santa Ana/Orange County, California.
29 RayChuang : Aaron G., I think it is a testament to pilot training that we haven't HAD a serious landing or takeoff accident at SAN since the 1978 mid-air collisio
30 Chiawei : Nepal has to be the dangerous airport due to its surrounding. PS. within 1 week of Thai A310 crash, a PIA A300 also crashed near the airport.
31 OO-AOG : Most dangerous airports are definately in Africa. You might be shoot down on approach in a few civil war countries. On technical point of view, Lugano
32 Steman : Palermo in Sicily, Italy is one of the most dangerous airport. You have to approach it from the sea and at the end of the approach you have a mountain
33 Samspain : I would suggest the airport in Merida, a small city located in the middle of the Venezuelan Andes. The runway is short; at the botom, there is a gas s
34 Post contains images HL : i went to JFK in '99 and while we were on approach we were flying around water and god knows what and when you land on a runway that's on the edge on
35 Post contains links Dufo : What about Courchevel, France (LFLJ)? You can see some pictures from there at http://www.members.aon.at/~slenz/dash7.html Regards, Jernej
36 JMJ : Do you know if YUL is safe?
37 Aa737 : I would say Courchevel in France, or Lugano Switzerland are some of the more dangerous landings. I read an article about crossair and captains have to
38 Us330 : What about Vail/Eagle County Airport. Especially on a when you takeoff going westward, as there is a 13,000ft. mountain you have to get past, also, it
39 WN boy : I think that the airport in Alaska to which you were previously alluding is either Juneau or Ketchikan. Both are on the sides of mountains near a natu
40 AC320 : JMJ, I don't think YUL ranks very high on the list of dangerous airports.
41 Phi : Most mountaineous areas are bad for landing but Mexico City should certainly be near the top of this list. You have to make a rapid descent between mo
42 YWG777 : I think a hard airport to land at would be eathier MCO=Orlando or OAK. I have been on 7 differn't approaches into MCO and tyyou have to watch out for
43 BOAT : Note to Thomacf, BHM (Birmingham, AL) is my home port, I must have landed there 200 times, since 1964(as a passenger on com flights). I know there is
44 AerLingus : 1)LGA-Short, intersecting runways, rediculous congestion. 2)SFO- (Surprised no one has mentioned it)Fog, congestion and extremely close proximity of p
45 N628AU : None of the US airports are really DANGEROUS, but some definitely more difficult. SNA just requires max performance takeoffs and landings, it is not r
46 JETPILOT : Airports are inherintely designed not to be dangerous. They all have to meet the same criteria. A 3 degree glideslope is a 3 degree glideslope whether
47 Futurepilot : Well, this airport is not dangerous. But I thought it was very interesting. I am talking about JFK and when they use the VOR rwy 13L/R approach. I hav
48 Tan flyr : As a fairly seasoned flyer I have always believed that some airports are more difficult than others, but have always had the faith that the Pilots kno
49 Trintocan : Courchevel indeed! How do they manage to land ANYTHING there? Just my impression, looking at those pictures on the link. It is certainly a credit to d
50 Garuda : I would say the airstrips in the interior of Papua province, Indonesia (the other half of New Guinea Island). With a lot of mountains in between, flyi
51 AA767-300ER : O.K. How do you want it? Three letters or two words. Here's both for the price of one: LGA - La Guardia. Why? My fellow airliners.net members have sai
52 Post contains images Plane holland : Saba , Netherlands Antilles..... tricky one, PH
53 FLY 8 : Innsbruck INN is one of the most difficult airports to fly in!! That´s a category C airodrome, wich means, that you need special crew training to be
54 Post contains images Endofdays : If you think LGA(La Guardia Airport) is the busy one, here are some of the facts, judge yourself! In 10 min(21:53) Survey taken by me on yesterday, th
55 ScottB : I was surprised no one mentioned Saba, Netherlands Antilles until the last few posts - the runway is only 2000 feet and there's a cliff that drops off
56 MRDC-10MD-11 : San Diego lindberg field becasue planes pass 100 feet or less over a parking garage on final approach.
57 WiLdmanVzla : Maybe Tegucigalpa in Honduras... You have to try on it!!!!!
58 Post contains images Plane holland : Does anyone know the airport Druk Air operates from..? Bhutan.. I have seen the approach on television once and that was more difficult then Innsbruck
59 Jderden777 : i would say tegucigalpa...along with courchevel in france and lugano in switzerland...the glideslope there more than twice the norm, at just over 6 de
60 Post contains images Jan Mogren : I enjoyed a couple off aproaches into Paro, Bhutan in the Himalayas in December, and that was the coolest I've experienced soo far! I am sure a lot of
61 DTW/ORD Fan! : The scariest airport I ever flew into is Chicago Midway. The runway system can be VERY problematic. I remember once we were taxiiing out, and there wa
62 Myself : The most "challenging" airport I ever landed was BIO (Bilbao, Spain) It's a CAT B airport, but in my opinion deserves a CAT C qualification : High ter
63 Super em : Can somebody explain to me why LGA is so dangerous?I live in the city andI would stop by the College of Aeronautics tower to watch planes take off and
64 JETPILOT : LGA is not dangerous but people who don't know anything about aviation like to believe it is. It's very melodramatic. I guess were runing out of topic
65 HlywdCatft : Someone already mentioned Princess Julianna Airport in St Martin, but that comes to mind as to how low they pass over the beach. How about Jackson Hol
66 Early Air : Sometimes in SLC because of weater sitiuations such as low clouds because of its altitude
67 Boeing747-400 : Quito, Ecuador, I've heard of high moutains sorrounding the airport or something. ???
68 Gmjh_air : Katmandu in Nepal and Gilgit in Pakistan Will have to get a spot each in the top 10!
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