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TGZ/CUN-T3/MEX-T2/GDL-T2/PVR-TS/+ In Less Than 2yr  
User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 312 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

In less than two years time, Mexico has seen the renewal of MEX-T1, the opening of MEX-T2, the all new TGZ (Tuxtla Gutierrez), the additions and renewal of GDL-T2, the opening of the first stage of PVR-TS, the construction of the all new MTY-TB, the additions at TLC (Toluca), the all new CUN-T3 and construction of its 2nd runway, the announcement of the beginning of construction for the all new airports at Puerto Penasco, Ensenada, Riviera Maya and Texcoco during 2008 & 2009, the all new B777s, the 5 B787s on order, the selling of MX and AM and the launching of a few start-up airlines.

With the exception of Azteca's bankruptcy, JR's troubles and a couple of wing clippings by AM's B777s at MEX-T2 and some other details which can be considered minor, all of the openings and operations, so far, can be considered hassle-free. (KLM can still find MEX and we have not had massive flight cancellations  Smile ) For Mexico and its aviation enthusiasts, all of these are an amazing accomplishment for such a short period of time if compared to all of Mexico's recent aviation history.

Now, the two questions for this discussion are: What else can we expect in the future? Will this great growth streak end soon because of rising oil prices?

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Mexico City Renewed T1 by ASA
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Mexico City New T2 by ASA
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Tuxtla Gutierrez New TGZ by Gobierno de Chiapas
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Guadalajara New T2 by El Occidental
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Puerto Vallarta New TS by NotiVallarta
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Monterrey New TB by ???
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Toluca New Additions by ASA
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Cancun New T3 by ASUR



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User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 312 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Three months have passed of 2008, and there are still no "new news" of the US $230 million investment announced for the new Ensenada International Airport. Ground breaking should have begun already according to http://www.elvigia.net/print.php?seccion=generales&id=37037 (Spanish only but with a sneak peek at the project). Any news, anyone?


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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

Quoting from the source offered by MayaviaERJ190:
"Se planea que la ruta internacional sea Ensenada-Hong Kong, Singapur, Shanghai y Tokio; en la ruta polar –Europa- habrá vuelos a Frankfurt, Alemania, y en el centro de Sudamérica a Bogota, Colombia".

That is just mere wishful thinking.
However, glad to see a new airport in Ensenada. Tried to use currente airport to fly to isla Cedros but it is simply imposible to get a ticket.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Thread starter):
Now, the two questions for this discussion are: What else can we expect in the future? Will this great growth streak end soon because of rising oil prices?

Great post, thanx for getting it going. For all us living abrod is hard to tell what's going on.

I think major modifications to Toluca airport are the next logical step. Turning Toluca airport into a major player is exrtemely important for Mexican aviation. Interjet, Avolar, and Volaris need infracstucture to grow and prosper. If those three airlines keep on growing, and the airport doesn't, it would be a shame. (side note- Volaris just got its 15 Airbus, congrats)

San Jose del Cabo needs a lot more attention. During busy days, I hear pilots talking about 40-50 minute ground stops into SJD due to high traffic volumes. Then you land, and there's no room to park. Would be nice to see an expanded terminal with more gates, and more tarmac room.

As far as Ensenada airport, I think Loreto has a lot more potential. I just read the city of Loreto is growing rapidly, Condos, hotels, restaurants, etc. Won't be long before a couple more US airlines land there.

saludos

[Edited 2008-04-02 18:20:53]

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2175 times:



Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Thread starter):
Now, the two questions for this discussion are: What else can we expect in the future? Will this great growth streak end soon because of rising oil prices?

I would like to see:

VW changing their c/s.
More B777s for AM: would be awesome now with the problems with N774AM to go B777-300ER.
More B767/777/330/340s for MX followed by more long haul routes.
An A330/340 in Volaris or Interjet to fly TLC-MAD and CUN-Europe.
All Mexican carriers surviving.
Aladia keeping its growth and bringing B767s and hopefully they start to take a nice stake of the big charter flight of: SJD/PVR/ACA/ZIH/HUX/MID/CUN/MZT/CZM.
MasAir introducing the B777F.
MX launching a cargo division with B767s.
Click swapping its fleet in 2010 with A319s!
Aviacsa going all B737-300 or some oldies A320s
Viva going for B737NG and A32X... trust me they will...
AeroCalifornia getting its hands on MD87s and returning to LAX!!!

Except for MEX, QET, ACA and CUN... the rest of our airport system suck, IMHO, all those little expansions going on at PVR, HMO, MTY, GDL, TLC, TIJ are ridiculous to Mexico's demand once with the arrival of all the orders on backlog for Volaris, Interjet, Viva, Avolar, Click, ALMA and the rest....

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
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Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Thread starter):

Thanks for the posting. Very interesting. I enjoy your photos as well.

How many jetways does the new first phase of the TS @ PVR have?

Thoughts about the new Skyteam T2 @ MEX?


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2079 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 5):

I can't asnwer your question about Puerto Vallarta, its been 4-5 years since I've been there. But the problem with some Mexican airports, specially the resort airports like Puerto Vallarta, San Jose Del Cabo, Ixtapa Zihuatanejo, is that during busy periods, they get overwhelmed very easy. The ramp areas get full, there's no place to park, no place to move, sometimes no gates for the airlines.

Talked to one of the pilots that I fly with, he flew into San Jose Del Cabo a couple of months ago. He waited on the ground at Phoenix for 40 minutes due to high volume. After landing, they waited another 20 minutes for parking. He said he saw a couple of airliners waiting next to him, for parking as well.


User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2045 times:



Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 4):
Except for MEX, QET, ACA and CUN... the rest of our airport system suck, IMHO, all those little expansions going on at PVR, HMO, MTY, GDL, TLC, TIJ are ridiculous to Mexico's demand once with the arrival of all the orders on backlog for Volaris, Interjet, Viva, Avolar, Click, ALMA and the rest....

Absolutely, I just couldn´t agree more with Ghost´s statement !!!

You see, my problem is that I have never been able to understand why a country with such a large economy and great importance, like ours, has never been able to build a decent, functional and solid airport infrastructure. I mean, Malaysia was falling behind Mexico some 40 years in regards to airport infrastructure in 1990, and now, wow, check out what they´ve done at KUL, PEN, BKI nd KCH !!!

Have not been to CUN for four years already, so I don´t know how things look like there. In regards to MEX, the T2 thing is just another fiasco, we have seen it and we have all read about it. GDL and PVR, to me, look like someone at GAP worst nightmares. MTY, my home town, well, was there three years ago and the airport looked small and of cheap quality, just like the rest in Mexico...  irked 

Honestly, it´s been a tradition in our airport industry, and with everything else... Just patch it and go !!!... This Mexican way of doing things has been going on and on forever already !!!

Sorry folks if I am bursting someone´s champagne bubbles here !!!... You could just call me a renegade... apologies all around !!!

Hey, MayaviaERJ190, very interesting topic, thank you for posting. I take the chance to welcome you to the forums, a bit late, I know, but had been away from A.Net for a few weeks already...  wink 

Best regards



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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2034 times:



Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
and now, wow, check out what they´ve done at KUL, PEN, BKI nd KCH !!!

Not to mention that today an airport in Malaysia was named as the best worldwide.

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
In regards to MEX, the T2 thing is just another fiasco,

Totally! The only good thing is the reduction in fuel and taxiing times!!

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
we have seen it and we have all read about it. GDL and PVR, to me, look like someone at GAP worst nightmares.

Agree... add to that TIJ!!!

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
MTY, my home town, well, was there three years ago and the airport looked small and of cheap quality, just like the rest in Mexico...

Totally... and with Viva and Aladia growing....

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
Honestly, it´s been a tradition in our airport industry, and with everything else... Just patch it and go !!!... This Mexican way of doing things has been going on and on forever already !!!

Agree!! True, true and more truth!!

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
Sorry folks if I am bursting someone´s champagne bubbles here !!!... You could just call me a renegade... apologies all around !!!

Call me a renegade II, our airports suck... many also need lots of taxiways!!! Just take a look around at SJD...

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 312 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2011 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 5):
How many jetways does the new first phase of the TS @ PVR have?

Vallarta's Terminal Satélite is a "Parallel Arm" to the existing 4 contact positions, so far it has 4 jetway gates, two on each side (west and east) it still doesn't stretch all the way out to the main taxiway, when it will, in a few months, it will have 8 gates (4 each side) PVR will begin to look like a comb.

Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
I take the chance to welcome you to the forums

Muchísimas gracias, siempre. The truth is that I have been peeking in here for many years, (maybe even since last century) up until I finally decided to give A.net my $25. Ghost, PZurita, Juventus and You are some of my favorite posters. No kidding...  Smile

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 4):
all those little expansions going on at PVR, HMO, MTY, GDL, TLC, TIJ are ridiculous to Mexico's demand

Can't agree more with you, but at least things are beginning to move after decades.

Carlos@PQM



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User currently offlineXA744 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 734 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2008 times:

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 5):
How many jetways does the new first phase of the TS @ PVR have?

OK, check out this two pics from PVR´s terminal addition, taken upon landing from MEX with Aviacsa last October. Like the rest of the terminals in Mexico, this new thing at Vallarta isn´t functional at all, and has been made using the cheapest materials you could find at a junk yard !!!...

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PVR´s new extension





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PVR´s new extension !!!



PVR´s new extension !!!




PVR´s new extension !!!



BTW, to answer your query, the new extension has four jetways, the enclosed type, which look real ugly. The main terminal building has three glass type jetways which are about the only nice thing there !!!

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):
Call me a renegade II

OK Ghost, now lets just wait and see who would be joining us as Renegade III...   

Best regards

Edited for photo display

[Edited 2008-04-03 09:50:53]

[Edited 2008-04-03 09:57:50]


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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1991 times:



Quoting XA744 (Reply 7):
You see, my problem is that I have never been able to understand why a country with such a large economy and great importance, like ours, has never been able to build a decent, functional and solid airport infrastructure.

Greedy airport groups, maybe? Didn't they privatized the airports so they could flourish?  Yeah sure

Anyway, the current works are best than nothing.

BTW. What kind of work is being done at TLC?

How many jetways are we talking about at GDL, MTY and TGZ?


User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1918 times:



Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 9):
Ghost, PZurita, Juventus and You are some of my favorite posters. No kidding... Smile

Well, thank you very much indeed.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 11):
How many jetways are we talking about at GDL, MTY and TGZ?

MTY, after TB is completed will have the amazing amount of 14 jetways!  Yeah sure That is just ridiculous for an airport which is expected to see over 10M pax in 2011.
And none will be built for regional a/c which happen to be the a/c of choice for Aeromexico Connect (largest operator in MTY) and CO, DL, AA and C4.

I guess I will post a new thread about MTY TB with pics and further info.



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