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AA/Eagle ORD-CWA, Plus Other Changes  
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11529 posts, RR: 61
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

Effective 1Jun08, Eagle will begin 3x daily service from Chicago/ORD to Wausau-Stevens Point, Wisconsin/CWA:

AA4252 ORD 0830 CWA 0940 ERD Daily
AA4342 ORD 1300 CWA 1410 ERD Daily
AA4520 ORD 1930 CWA 2040 ERD Daily

AA4251 CWA 0715 ORD 0815 ERD Daily
AA4341 CWA 1010 ORD 1110 ERD Daily
AA4521 CWA 1440 ORD 1540 ERD Daily

This summer, CWA will be receiving - in addition to these new Eagle flights to ORD - 2x daily CRJs to MKE with YX, 6x CRJ/SF3 to MSP and 4x CRJ/SF3 to DTW on NW, and 3x CRJ to ORD on UA.

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In other AA/Eagle news, it looks like Eagle will also be discontinuing service on two existing routes:

From 1Jun: AA4797/4799 LGA-YHZ-LGA (but the 2x daily ER3 JFK-YHZ-JFK will remain)

and

From 1May: AA4723/4565 RDU-XNA-RDU

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AA also received final DoT approval on Friday to begin codesharing with El Al. The codesharing should commence in April on dozens of routes across the Atlantic from Israel directly to the U.S. and on AA flights from intermediate gateways in Europe to U.S. hubs, and from El Al's U.S. gateways to interior U.S. points on AA.

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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

LGA-YHZ never made sense, with JFK YHZ pax can connect to latin america, transcon and carribbean...Im also not shocked that RDU-XNA is discontinued, why was thios flown anyways??? SAS institute and Walmart connection.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22876 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3780 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 1):
Im also not shocked that RDU-XNA is discontinued, why was thios flown anyways??? SAS institute and Walmart connection.

I wouldn't have thought that AA would have started the route without some sort of subsidy on one end or the other (Wal Mart or an RTP company most likely).



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Didn't AE already fly to CWA only a year or two ago before they cut the route? I'm not that surprised to see this route return and its certainly good to hear for CWA. I might be flyin up there on YX next winter to do some skiing.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11529 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3732 times:



Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 3):
Didn't AE already fly to CWA only a year or two ago before they cut the route?

To my knowledge, it has been many years since Eagle has flown to CWA. I do believe they did in the past fly ORD-CWA with SAABs or ATRs, way back in the day (like 80s-90s), but I don't think they've flown to CWA since the millennium. Could well be wrong, though.


User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3732 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 1):
Im also not shocked that RDU-XNA is discontinued, why was thios flown anyways???

The only reason this route was flow was to get an extra 135 into a MTX hangar.



DCA
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3713 times:



Quoting Akizidy214 (Reply 5):
The only reason this route was flow was to get an extra 135 into a MTX hangar.

Thats a great reason to start a route with fuel prices as high as they are.


User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3695 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 6):
Thats a great reason to start a route with fuel prices as high as they are.

Please realize when this route was started Jet fuel wasn't $133.77 a barrel.



DCA
User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

I know that almost all the flights on NW out of CWA are full. They use to fill the Avros out of there. Last night, 49 out of 50, this morning 49/50 on CRJ to MSP. I wonder how much traffic this will rob from UAE?

WingnutMN



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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3905 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

The avros were never flown to CWA... however they sure could have used them there. Everytime I am in CWA the flights are overbooked and weight restricted. Time for the 900 I think at some times of the day. Unfortunately the 900s can be used in higher yielding markets. CWA would be the perfect route for a Q400.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11529 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3645 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 6):
Thats a great reason to start a route with fuel prices as high as they are.

Well, it was worth a try, seeing as it may be cheaper - though obviously not in the case - to fly a plane with 20 paying passengers on it to get it to a maintenance base over flying a plane with 0 paying passengers on it to get it to a maintenance base. If the plane has to get there one way or the other, it may be worth it to make it a scheduled flight.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32702 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

AA and LY will have quite an extensive codeshare agreement at launch. Following the first phase, AA/LY hope to implement an extensive codeshare agreement on AA's Latin/Caribbean routes from Miami and JFK by the end of the year.

The initial LY/AA codeshares, for those who are interested, follows.

AA* code on LY* routes:

EWR-TLV
JFK-TLV
LAX-TLV
MIA-TLV

TLV-CDG
TLV-FCO
TLV-FRA
TLV-LHR
TLV-MAD
TLV-ZRH

LY* code on AA/MQ routes:

All AA flights from CDG, FCO, FRA, LHR, MAD, and ZRH

BOS-YYZ

EWR-DFW
EWR-LAX
EWR-ORD
EWR-RDU
EWR-STL

JFK-BOS
JFK-CLE
JFK-DCA
JFK-DFW
JFK-LAX
JFK-MIA
JFK-ORD
JFK-RDU
JFK-SEA
JFK-SFO
JFK-SJU
JFK-YUL
JFK-YYZ

LAX-AUS
LAX-DEN
LAX-HNL
LAX-LAS
LAX-MIA
LAX-SAN
LAX-SFO
LAX-STL
LAX-SJC
LAX-YYZ

MIA-ATL
MIA-CLT
MIA-IND
MIA-LAS
MIA-MCO
MIA-MEM
MIA-PHL
MIA-PIT
MIA-RDU
MIA-TPA
MIA-YYZ
ORD-YYZ



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User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3197 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 4):
Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 3):
Didn't AE already fly to CWA only a year or two ago before they cut the route?

To my knowledge, it has been many years since Eagle has flown to CWA. I do believe they did in the past fly ORD-CWA with SAABs or ATRs, way back in the day (like 80s-90s), but I don't think they've flown to CWA since the millennium. Could well be wrong, though.

You're pretty much correct. I know for certain that CWA lasted into 1999 (I worked in reservations that year and remember it during my time in RES), and at the latest, ended in 2000. It was ended during the ramp-up of ERJ service at ORD.


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4261 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

Now if only they will start service to ATW? UA has added capacity by bringing some 70 seaters in recently, and YX is keeping the same frequency with the CRJ's they had with ERJ's, which adds capacity. I still think ATW is underserved.

User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

OK I have an answer to your question:

Eagle last served ORD CWA on May 19, 1999 with ATR42s.

Matt


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2672 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

MAH, will LY now use AA's terminal at Kennedy, or will they stay put? It'd be great to see T8 put to more use (not to mention it makes connections a hell of a lot easier both ways).

User currently offlineATA1011Tristar From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2786 times:



Quoting Commavia (Thread starter):
Effective 1Jun08, Eagle will begin 3x daily service from Chicago/ORD to Wausau-Stevens Point, Wisconsin/CWA:

YEEEEEE - HAAAAAW!!! This just put a huge smile on my face. I'm so excited for my hometown airport!

 champagne  biggrin 


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22876 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2643 times:



Quoting Apodino (Reply 13):
I still think ATW is underserved.

I tend to agree, though the proximity to GRB hurts some. I think that for a long time ZW kept MQ out of ATW; there was too much capacity because of ZW's base there (didn't all 146 trips have to start/end in ATW?). If that's true, then the competitive environment should be much better for MQ now.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32702 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

This really doesn't have to do with the original topic, but since this is an AA/news thread and it isn't "big news" to start its own thread, might as well...

Some of the execs from AA's Miami offices will be in Georgetown, Guyana next week in hopes of finalizing plans to fly to the Guyanese capital by November 2008. The plan - from what I hear - is five weekly 737-800s.

AA has also asked the Venezuelan government - again - to please approve their Miami-Valencia application ASAP following the shut-down of Aeropostal, which leaves Valencia with no non-stop service to the U.S. American Airlines is ready to start service to Valencia, Venezuela within 45 days of Venezuelan approval, if not sooner.

Also, once the Colombia-USA route authority decision is finalized, American Airlines will make a final decision on whether or not to fly to Cartagena, Colombia, with service starting by July,



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22876 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2394 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
Some of the execs from AA's Miami offices will be in Georgetown, Guyana next week in hopes of finalizing plans to fly to the Guyanese capital by November 2008. The plan - from what I hear - is five weekly 737-800s.

The last time they tried (or, more accurately maybe, thought about trying), they couldn't get Guyanan government approval, right?

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
American Airlines is ready to start service to Valencia, Venezuela within 45 days of Venezuelan approval, if not sooner.

Another ~daily 738 route?



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