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Iraq Airways Orders 30/737's & 10/787's!  
User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 9762 times:

SEATTLE, March 31, 2008 -- Boeing and the government of Iraq have signed an agreement in Baghdad for the purchase of 30 Next-Generation 737s and 10 787 Dreamliners. The order will be booked and added to Boeing's Orders & Deliveries Web site upon completion of the final contractual terms of the agreement.

Boeing's Statement on Iraqi Government's Fleet Selection

Another 787 carrier... Excellent news for Boeing and IA.

WARNING! DO NOT POST on the POLITICS and WAR talk in this thread!

This is a civ-av discussion about the order only!



Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
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User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 9734 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):

Another 787 carrier... Excellent news for Boeing and IA.

Very good news for both Boeing and the people of Iraq. Best of luck to Iraqi Airways as they essentially try to build an airline from scratch.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
WARNING! DO NOT POST on the POLITICS and WAR talk in this thread!

This is a civ-av discussion about the order only!

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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 9650 times:

Is the claim of Kuwait against Iraqi Airlines still active.

User currently offlineDacman From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 444 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months ago) and read 9475 times:

Hope they keep the current livery as this will look absolutly gorgeous on the 737NG and 787, one of my all time favorite liveries!

Michael
(Dacman)
LAX / LGB local



"Airliner Photography is not a crime"
User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8870 times:

Where will the 787s fly?


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7191 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8793 times:
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Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
Where will the 787s fly?

JFK?
LHR/MAN?

Where does the average person from Iraq want to go on holiday?

 confused 


User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8744 times:

Great news for Boeing and Iraqi Airways.

Nevertheless, the order is surprisingly huge. How many aircraft are they flying now (is the 767 still around?)?

What about the Airbus order for A310s that (due to Saddam's attack on Kuwait in 1990 and its aftermath) never materialised? Was it ever cancelled?

cheers, would be nice to see the stunning Iraqi livery in Western skies again,

cheers

[Edited 2008-04-01 18:15:17]


Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life.
User currently offlineB727fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8711 times:

Are they going to have a new deasign/logo?

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8695 times:



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
Where will the 787s fly?

MAN
LHR
FRA
PRG
DXB
ORY
CDG
AMS
JFK

and other destinations...



Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8683 times:

well, I guess I can answer some of my answers myself:

the 767 has apparently left (the very reliable ch-aviation.ch site does not list the 767 under their fleet anymore), its last picture is from aurumn 2006:
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furthermore, it seems that they only have a single active 727-200 (operated by Teebah Airlines, 9L-LEL):


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well, nobody believed in the Lion Air order at first neither...

cheers



Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life.
User currently offlineApache323 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8622 times:

It will be nice to see some new Iraqi airways jets flying around here, I only see the 727 and their 737-200 flying. The remaining fleet in Baghdad has been abandoned and will never fly again as the aircraft are in very poor condition and filled with dust, a sad sight to see. Good luck to Iraqi Airways and their future.

User currently offlineIAHFLYER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8456 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 8):
and other destinations...

IAH?



Little airports with the big jets are the best!! Floyd
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8202 times:

Very good news however I suspect to number to be too high. Were should they fly them?

How about delivery slots? When can we see the 787 in Iraqi colors ( hopefully old colors Big grin )

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 8):

ORY
CDG

Do you suspect one of the Paris airports or both?  Smile


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

Do Iraqi Airways have landing slots in LHR, JFK, CDG......etc.
as far as i know they have no international operations since 1990, does that mean that their landing slots have been canceled ?


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7938 times:

Interesting news! I'm glad to see that IA will keep using Boeings in the future.


R-E-S-P-E-C-T
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7923 times:

I have mixed feelings about this, I don´t know if second hand aircraft such as 767s would be better for the beginning.


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

The good news is that with all the delays from Boeing on the 787, Iraq may just be a place where you can land a plane safely by the time Iraqi Airways get their deliveries...  bomb   duck 

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26853 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7813 times:

Good news to see IA getting new fleet. I hope they do the LON-ATH-BGW as suggested a while back. Especially if they were allowed to pick up traffic on the LON-ATH portion. Anyway hope it all goes well for them. I always loved their livery.

User currently offlineJFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7610 times:



Quoting AlanUK (Reply 16):
The good news is that with all the delays from Boeing on the 787, Iraq may just be a place where you can land a plane safely by the time Iraqi Airways get their deliveries...

HaHa that is funny


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30584 posts, RR: 84
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7450 times:
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Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
Another 787 carrier... Excellent news for Boeing and IA.

Once signed, I believe this takes the 787 program over 900 firm orders.  champagne 



Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 2):
Is the claim of Kuwait against Iraqi Airlines still active.

I believe it is, but I expect it will be handled prior to the first deliveries.



Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 6):
What about the Airbus order for A310s that (due to Saddam's attack on Kuwait in 1990 and its aftermath) never materialised? Was it ever cancelled?

I believe it is still active on Airbus' books, but eventually it will be removed when the new government formally rejects the contract. They might take something else or I expect Airbus just keeps the deposits per a normal default.


User currently offlineRJAF From Jordan, joined Jan 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7254 times:



Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 6):
is the 767 still around?)?

Well yes it is and is owned by Teebah Airlines and wet leased to Royal Falcon ( a new Jordanian scheduled charter airline). Registered JY-JRF



Chance favors the prepared mind
User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7222 times:

Good news indeed, surprised such big order........ perhaps over kill.....

Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
Where does the average person from Iraq want to go on holiday?

I would say nowhere for some time, however I believe once things "settle in" these plains will be filled by Iraqi people......


Cheers,

[Edited 2008-04-02 14:48:48]

[Edited 2008-04-02 14:49:26]

User currently offlineBringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7116 times:

A lot of buisness oreinted travel will take place once iraq becomes more safe and is well on the road to prosperity . The next decade will see many wester buisnesses setting up shop in iraq , these aircrafts would be much needed to connect baghdad to major western capitals aswell as to cities around the middle east (737's) .

User currently offlineATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7100 times:



Quoting Bringiton (Reply 22):
A lot of buisness oreinted travel will take place once iraq becomes more safe and is well on the road to prosperity . The next decade will see many wester buisnesses setting up shop in iraq

Wow for once we are being positive here on A.net, it's kinda nice!

Do we know what type of 737's they will be receiving?

~Brandon



Everyday, the fluffy temptation of wheat!
User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7041 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 5):
Where does the average person from Iraq want to go on holiday?

That's my question. Sure you see German, English, Chinese tourists etc. but I've never heard someone say "yeah we are in from Baghdad for a week to relax." So I'm real curious as well!



Go big or go home
25 Chgoflyer : Amazing how every Euro commented on how the order what perhaps to big..... what do you care? Your not paying.
26 Columba : I don´t want to talk politics here but I see different priorities in Iraq then brand new longhaul aircraft. There are enough cheap second hand aircr
27 Aruba : I can't wait to see a IA aircraft in JFK. Maybe one day i'll et to visit.
28 Post contains images FD728 : Considering the fact that Kuwait wants to seize some Iraqi planes, the order isn't necessarily too large. Maybe this completes the planned fleet renew
29 Travellin'man : Any word on how this is being financed? Is Exim bank involved or are there other participations by financial institutions?
30 Stitch : With the delays in the 787 and A380 program, the leasing market is getting pretty tight right now when it comes to good second-hand current generatio
31 IAD787 : You can count on a IAD-BGW. Baghdad is the largest embassy in the world for the United States. It's a prime diplomatic shuttle.
32 8herveg : Really why MAN...many Iraqis living there? I can see any of the following being operated (short and long-haul) Abu Dhabi Aleppo Amman Amsterdam Ankar
33 Tb727 : LOL, I get it...I was thinking that just looking at the title. LMAO. Add DTW to the list of cities.[Edited 2008-04-03 10:58:45]
34 Stitch : And IAH.
35 Aviationwiz : While some may view my question as political, I think it's a legitimate question about the order, and that is, who's paying for the airplanes? Does th
36 Stitch : None of the press releases I saw mentioned the financing. Options would include the Iraqi government paying for it themselves from oil revenues, or t
37 Tb727 : Where do I send my resume to fly for them?
38 Swissy : Perhaps "we" can see the possible/reasonble economics behind a possible market for Iraq Airways.... Well said Stitch (as usual), the market is very t
39 Bennett123 : Stitch I think that you are assuming that passengers would recognise a new plane if it fell on them. A new coat of paint and a tarted up interior and
40 Bennett123 : Giving this issue a bit more thought, I would check out FR/EZY/AQ/TZ all of which are about to offload B737NG. If you lease them for 5 years or so, th
41 8herveg : I can understand IAH, because of oil...but why DTW?
42 L410Turbolet : Precisely. You are. With your taxes.
43 Tb727 : There are more Iraqi's there than anywhere else in the world outside of Baghdad. Exactly. They should just take NW's DC-9's, way cheaper and they hav
44 Columba : Dearborn Michigan is the largest Iraqi community outside of Iraq if I recall correctly.
45 Tb727 : Last I heard the number is somewhere in the 50,000 range for Iraqi's in the Detroit area.
46 RJAF : Not exactly, Jordan has about 800,000 Iraqis. Syria I believe have even more.
47 Tb727 : Ok, in North America.
48 NW748i : Bhutan, without a doubt. I might add that I think routes will be more determined by where the investment money is coming from... I have a feeling tha
49 CaptOveur : Maybe their idea of a vacation is to drive a cab?
50 Stitch : True, but when the US had an embargo on Iraq and Boeing could not sell them planes, France's willingness to do so landed the original A310 order. And
51 AirRyan : I think their going to use those 787's on a much needed SDA-LAS for all the sinners wishing to go to Sin City.
52 Gkirk : Yup. Loads of Iraqis in Glasgow as well.
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