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DFW In The Beginning (4 Aerial Photos)  
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23363 times:

I was inspired by the Braniff thread of a few days ago to go back through my files and dig out some old aerial photos of DFW taken not too long after its opening in 1974. Interesting to see how much the airport has grown over the past 34 years.









Comments welcome...

Tom at MSY


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23361 times:

Looking at that 2nd pic, 13L/31R was open at the beginning?


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User currently offlinePhilhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23322 times:

Neat photos!  thumbsup 


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23316 times:

I went to DFW the first time in 1978. Flying Braniff from ORD-DFW, then that crappy little commuter thing called Rio, down to ILE and Ft. Hood.

I thought it was huge then, but it certainly has grown.

Last trip through there was in 2000 on AA from ABQ via DFW to DCA. Unbelieveable how to have to generally hurry through the AA terminals there.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3049 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23282 times:

What good times, eh? I first flew to DFW in '79, when Texas International inaugurated service to MOB. We got in line at like 5:30am, and snagged .79 promotional tickets to DFW.

Back in the day...... AA, BN, TI and DL all had major operations there. CO was pretty well-represented also, IIRC. The AA 707's were AWESOME!!



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 23261 times:

How much has it grown really? Only one new terminal, right? Were there 5 runways at the beginning?


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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23249 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
Were there 5 runways at the beginning?

3 runways, I believe.

-Rampart


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23222 times:

Although DFW has changed, for those of us that lived/live in the Metroplex, the real jaw dropper is the growth around DFW. In '74 you might as well have been flying out of central Kansas for all the development you could see around DFW, but now houses, hotels and business crowd right up to the airport property line, not to mention the support buildings that have sprung up on the airport proper.


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23206 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
Only one new terminal, right?

Yes, but Terminals A and E have been greatly expanded since then. Plus, each terminal now has many more gates than they did back then.



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User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23207 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
How much has it grown really? Only one new terminal, right? Were there 5 runways at the beginning?

If you look at the pics, only 2W was a full terminal - the others were partial. So, they built out 3 terminals, added the satellite A and E (which are vacant now), a new terminal D and 4 more runways. I would consider that sizeable growth.

What's even more interesting is the amount of nothingness around it - look how the infrastructure and towns around it have grown!!


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6456 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23185 times:

The road going through the terminals was originally there, correct?


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23170 times:



Quoting Searpqx (Reply 7):
Although DFW has changed, for those of us that lived/live in the Metroplex, the real jaw dropper is the growth around DFW

That's the first thing I noticed from these photos.....it is all prairie out there..I lived there is 1995-99 and it was all filled in.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23149 times:



Quoting Rampart (Reply 6):
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
Were there 5 runways at the beginning?

3 runways, I believe.

I had forgotten this fact, but if you look closely at the third picture, just behind the taxiing aircraft, you can see the runway end and ID markiings for a runway 18R/36L (it obviously shows up a lot clearer on the original photo I've got). So originally this taxiway doubled as a runway (probably for the Rio STOL aircraft, etc)

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 7):
the real jaw dropper is the growth around DFW.

One of the basic premises of airport planning is that no matter where you build an airport, the surrounding areas will eventually be developed bigtime. DFW was the ultimate example.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23115 times:

Anyone have any info on the "STOL" runway that used to exist at DFW? I remembered seeing it in AOPA's Aviation USA directory listing for DFW circa 1991 or so...  Wink Looked like it was a section of taxiway marked out as a runway for GA ops.


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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23114 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
How much has it grown really? Only one new terminal, right? Were there 5 runways at the beginning?

There were only 3 runways in the beginning.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
The road going through the terminals was originally there, correct?

If you're talking about the road in the middle of the airport, that has always been there. I think it's called International Parkway, or some such thing. It's a toll road.

In the bottom picture, is that AA's "Fat Alcoa" (747) at the Braniff terminal? I believe Braniff rented it for a while.

Thanks, Tom in NO, these pics brought back a lot of memories.



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23045 times:

Question...

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 13):
Anyone have any info on the "STOL" runway that used to exist at DFW? I remembered seeing it in AOPA's Aviation USA directory listing for DFW circa 1991 or so... Looked like it was a section of taxiway marked out as a runway for GA ops.

...is answered here:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 12):
had forgotten this fact, but if you look closely at the third picture, just behind the taxiing aircraft, you can see the runway end and ID markiings for a runway 18R/36L (it obviously shows up a lot clearer on the original photo I've got). So originally this taxiway doubled as a runway (probably for the Rio STOL aircraft, etc)

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 22994 times:



Quote:
Looking at that 2nd pic, 13L/31R was open at the beginning?

13/31 was part of Great Southwest International airport - the old Ft. Worth airport, yes? Technically, that would make it the oldest runway at DFW.

I passed through this airport in December, 1974, as a child of eight years old. We had arrived from LAX on AA flight 122, a 727 (thanks to departedflights.com, I know the plane for sure AND the flight number!!), and we transferred on a space-age looking tram to Frontier Airlines flight 572 (I believe), a CV580. I remember being told this airport was almost brand new, and it was so BIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ironically, I have no memory of any Braniff planes at all - you'd think something like that would have been obvious, but nope!!



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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 22914 times:

13/31 was part of Great Southwest International airport - the old Ft. Worth airport, yes? Technically, that would make it the oldest runway at DFW.

No; GSW was actually at the southwestern end of the DFW property, a few miles from the original DFW 13/31, which is in the northeastern portion of DFW. A small abandoned piece of GSW's old runway 17 and its taxiway pokes just north of route 183, west of the interchange with International Parkway. The current boulevard in front of AA's headquarters is exactly on the alignment of that runway; I'm not sure if it's actual pavement of that runway. No portion of GSW's runways is part of the current runway complex at DFW.

There was a recent thread about GSW that featured a bunch of good aerial photos from Google Earth, and detailed commentary from experts. Here are a couple of good pages about the airport:

http://oldterminals.topcities.com/fort%20worth.html
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_...man/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm

My travels never took me to the Metroplex until i was an adult in the 1990's; unfortunately I never got to see Braniff beauties flying in and out of either DAL or DFW! I only remember ever seeing BI a/c at ORD.

Jim

[Edited 2008-04-01 13:35:38]


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 22848 times:

Quote:
No; GSW was actually at the southwestern end of the DFW property, a few miles from the original DFW 13/31, which is in the northeastern portion of DFW. A small abandoned piece of GSW's old runway 17 and its taxiway pokes just north of route 183, west of the interchange with International Parkway. The current boulevard in front of AA's headquarters is exactly on the alignment of that runway; I'm not sure if it's actual pavement of that runway. No portion of GSW's runways is part of the current runway complex at DFW.

Thank you for clarifying!! I was mistaken.

On google maps, runway 17/35's northern edge and taxiway is not only VERY visible, but so is the remnants of 13/31, what I thought was the 13/31 at DFW. Fascinating!!

[Edited 2008-04-01 14:00:14]


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User currently offlineSWABrian From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 22788 times:

Don't forget that for many years, DFW was known as the Dallas/Fort Worth Regional Airport--the "International" title didn't come until much later. As big as the facility is, and as barren as the land was around it, now people complain about airport noise. That's the flip side of build it and they will come.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 22742 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 18):
On google maps, runway 17/35's northern edge and taxiway is not only VERY visible, but so is the remnants of 13/31, what I thought was the 13/31 at DFW. Fascinating!!

If you look here, you'll see what we're talking about.

If you look at Amon Carter Blvd, and follow it north until it hits 183 right at the south end of the airport, you can clearly see the end of the old GSW runway. The current Amon Carter Boulveard is the old runway repaved and resurfaced - suffice it to say, it is a very long, very straight, and very flat street.

Also, for those interested, the below is partially cut from my post on another thread about GSW:

The satellite picture above gives you a view of pretty much AA's entire operational base.

The two humongous pinwheel buildings down Amon Carter are AA's headquarters buildings - with two huge parking garages in between. Several of the warehouses across Amon Carter, along with several south of Trinity Blvd (the street running east-west at the bottom of the picture) that aren't in the shot, have been used by AA for overflow office space at various times.

Just south of the AA CP4/CP5 headquarters buildings is what - in this picture - appears to be a construction site. This picture is a few years old. That construction site is now the headquarters of the AA Federal Credit Union, which is one of the ten largest credit unions in America. It's a really nice building. It was completed some time around 2004, if I remember correctly.

Across Highway 360, on both sides of FAA Boulevard, you can see AA's entire training complex. That complex - which is absolutely massive - includes the Learning Center (FA training), Flight Academy (pilot training), and Flagship University (other training, meetings, conferences, annual stockholders meetings, etc.).

Just west (to the left) of that complex is AA's Southern Reservations Office, or SRO, their largest res office, and probably now one of the largest remaining in-house airline res centers in America. You can see the SRO's parking lots, which are round and curved.

Finally, south of the training and conference center, and the SRO, along Highway 360, just north of Trinity Boulevard, you can see these weird looking buildings that are almost in an elongated checker-board pattern - buildings intermixed with areas of open space. Most people don't know it, and many don't even know the buildings are there because they are very weirdly positioned and hard to see from the road, but this is actually AA's original headquarters in the area, and was AA's second headquarters in the Metroplex. When AA moved down in 1979, they initially moved into offices in Grand Prairie while this building was being built. They moved into that building around 1980-81, I believe, and then moved again around 1989-90 to the newest headquarters, where they still are now. This building then became known as the STIN (Sabre Travel Information Network) Building, and served - for years, well up into the 1990s - as the headquarters for SABRE. Now, while I'm not positive, I believe SABRE still owns the building but now leases it own to other tenants. Could be wrong, though.

Just some info for those interested.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 22645 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 20):
This building then became known as the STIN (Sabre Travel Information Network) Building, and served - for years, well up into the 1990s - as the headquarters for SABRE.

Yep, worked there for STIN as well as in CP4 (SABRE) and CP5 (AA). Quite a campus, and a real PITA to get around if you had meetings outside your building. Though being able to park in shade at Centerport, vs. the open lots at STIN was always nice.

Is CP2 still in use? When I was there last, Aadvantage and Res Admin were based over there.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11712 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 22593 times:



Quoting Searpqx (Reply 21):
Quite a campus, and a real PITA to get around if you had meetings outside your building.

True, but CP4, CP5 and (formerly) CP2 do have the tunnels.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 21):
Is CP2 still in use? When I was there last, Aadvantage and Res Admin were based over there.

No. AA has been out of CP2 for 3-4 years now - when you drive by now, its just dark - waiting to figure out what to do with it. They found mold in a few of the closets over there and it wasn't worth fixing up - that place was a dump anyway. They moved much of what was over in CP2 (AAdvantage and Customer Relations) to the CPOC buildings (new buildings on the south side of Trinity), and then moved those departments again into some open spaces here and there in CP4 and CP5 about 2 years ago.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 22555 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 22):
that place was a dump anyway.

That it was, but downright elegant compared to CP1! I had a cube over there briefly, and we had a daily pool on which ceiling tile(s) would crumble and fall during the day. I always figured that the old SABRE programmers were so cranky because they had to work in CP1.  Smile



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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 22529 times:



Quoting SWABrian (Reply 19):
As big as the facility is, and as barren as the land was around it, now people complain about airport noise. That's the flip side of build it and they will come.

I'm not 100% sure but I think I connected thru there in 1978 on a college trip...but I do recall that it was out in the middle of nowhere pretty much and now, based on Google maps, it's just part of surrounding cities/towns...

Are there any more current A.net pix that match up closely to some of those in OP on thread? That'd be interesting to see to me, but finding them is not my best skill.



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25 Post contains links and images KELPkid : Nah, it's because they were tasked with keeping the world's largest assembly language program going http://www.techworld.com/opsys/features/index.cfm
26 Post contains images Tom in NO : John, here are a couple of fairly recent photos from the a.net collection: Tom at MSY
27 Commavia : Say what you will about SABRE - but there's something to be said for a computer network system that is, even today, nearly five decades after its ini
28 DCA-ROCguy : Thank you for clarifying!! I was mistaken. On google maps, runway 17/35's northern edge and taxiway is not only VERY visible, but so is the remnants o
29 Tom in NO : ...while wondering why a thread discussing 34-year old DFW aerial photos devolved into a computer discussion... Yep. that's the one, I believe. My fir
30 Jsnww81 : Great shots, Tom! It is incredible to see how much DFW has grown, and even more so how the surrounding suburbs have grown. Irving was a small city in
31 ZuluLima : The scary thing is, DFW hasn't even come close to reaching it's potential capacity. I was reading something not to long ago, from the DFW website I be
32 Post contains images Sailas : Amazing photos:D I love the american architecture and how the highway just goes through. 10 stars for these photos!
33 KC135TopBoom : That is correct, originally the runways were 13/31, 17L/35R (now 17R/35L), and 17R/35L (now 18L/36R). Terminal B also expanded, twice now since the o
34 WA707atMSP : Not many people know that DFW was originally supposed to have FIVE terminals when it opened. Unbuilt terminal 4W (across International Parkway from th
35 Post contains images LoneStarMike : This is a horrible 30-year old picture, but shows one of the two large holdrooms LoneStarMike
36 Ssides : Looking back at airport and overall aviation planning back in the late 60s, early 70s, it's interesting to think about what could have been had we no
37 Commavia : Ah yes, the old West Reduced lot. I have oh-so-many memories as a kid of parking there and checking in at the little "outhouse" building in the middl
38 OPNLguy : That was my exact same thought when I saw the first photo. There's no development on SH114 on either the Irving or Grapevine sides, and I-635/LBJ doe
39 WA707atMSP : One of the reasons DFW was built was to keep the noise from SST takeoffs and landings away from populated areas. If oil had stayed affordable, many m
40 EXAAUADL : Hey, how did the holding rooms operate?
41 N702ML : Always glad to help. Greg
42 Jcavinato : The PHX Airport Authority and the city of Phoenix talk of PHX being responsible for 25,000 jobs of all kinds as a result of that airport's activities.
43 Post contains links Commavia : According to this press release issued by, admittedly, a biased source - DFW Airport - from last September, DFW's economic impact on the Metroplex to
44 EXAAUADL : Without DFW, the Dallas-Forth Worth area would have been probably marginally larger than Kansas City or maybe at absolute best Denver. Atlanta also o
45 Post contains links Ssides : American Airlines alone employs over 22,000 people in the DFW area, so I'd bet that at least 30,000 local jobs are tied to DFW Airport -- and that's
46 JayDavis : I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that in terms of size, DFW is actually larger than the island of Manhattan in NYC. Everything's bigger in
47 Post contains images LoneStarMike : You cleared security and then waited in one of two large holdrooms. Each holdroom had one of those big arrivals/departures boards. You can barely mak
48 Saxman66 : I'd really like to see more photos inside the "old" terminals. Like the one above, and it just fascinated me how you can still see remnants of where t
49 Jsnww81 : Awesome pictures, LoneStarMike. Please share any more you might have. I vaguely remember those overhead signs that said "Flight" and "To" when I was a
50 Jsnww81 : Originally each of the terminals was to have three lanside sections - A, B and C. Each terminal 'section' contained ticket counters and baggage claim
51 Commavia : I just wanted to say that this thread has been one of the most interesting and informative I have seen in quite some time. These old pictures, stories
52 Post contains images LoneStarMike : I do have a few more. These were all taken sometime after late November 1975 - probably early 1976. I got my driver's license in November 1975 and af
53 MeanGreen : This is a really great thread! I have to go to B tomorrow and I will see what I can find that might be from the BI days!
54 PennStation : Well...we're all just a bunch of old farts now, aren't we! I guess that I'm one too, because I just LOVE this thread. See the bench in LoneStarMike's
55 Jsnww81 : More great shots! Those orange tiles stuck around in 2W for quite awhile after Braniff shut down. They were one of the last things to be removed - the
56 Commavia : Yeah, that does look bad. I think it is part of a slowly-evolving aesthetic upgrade at DFW. It is happening gradually - over the span of years - term
57 EXAAUADL : With regards to conenctions, did a connecting pax have to go to the hold room after arriving in DFW or could you just walk to the jetway where you con
58 Commavia : Thankfully, us locals know about the service road - no tolls!
59 Searpqx : As late as 1995, it was pretty easy to find indications of the original BN occupation in 2W. Those god awful leather seats were still there (stylish
60 Tom in NO : Mike, those are some incredible pictures you've posted! Thanks for adding them to the thread! Great comments, guys...keep 'em coming. Tom at MSY
61 PExDCA : The final death blow to any significant remnant of BI in Terminal 2W was when it was expanded in the mid-late 90's and AA took 10 gates there. The pa
62 Jsnww81 : That's correct. I believe it was 1998 or early 1999 when American made their first move into Terminal 2W. They took over about ten gates and built a
63 Post contains links Dfwcre8tive : I like seeing these older photos. I wish DFW Airport would create some small museum or exhibit about the development of the airport. There are some go
64 DCA-ROCguy : Just wanted to note that I'm really enjoying reading all the history of DFW and seeing all these photos. Things got a bit crazy since my last post so
65 Post contains links N702ML : i know, i know i have a big gap in the TWA collection in the 1970s. However, here is another EXCELLENT site that shows multiple TWA maps during the 1
66 Post contains links DCA-ROCguy : i know, i know i have a big gap in the TWA collection in the 1970s. However, here is another EXCELLENT site that shows multiple TWA maps during the 19
67 RedTailDTW : Well, when I was there in 2002, American Eagle had flights at Satellite A2 (A2A-A2N) and Terminal B (B2-B15). Later they took over more of B to inclu
68 Commavia : The B extension opened in 1999, if I remember correctly The extension added a total of 5 gates, and then they also took over 4 gates in the main term
69 Revelation : Nah, all old programmers are cranky!
70 TN757Flyer : I recall in the early 70's while living in TN reading about the building of this airport in I believe Popular Science magazine. I was awed at it's pla
71 Jsnww81 : I was in junior high school when all the screaming was going on, and even then I remember why the hell they thought they had a right to be upset. In
72 LoneStarMike : I think that must have been a charter. I have a book about the history of DFW and it briefly mentioned that TWA had started service at DFW before Bra
73 Ssides : I was just wondering ... where to Eagle's Saab flights operate from now? Are they at B with the rest of Eagle, or are they still down at the "low A"
74 Post contains links and images Dfwcre8tive : Here are some interesting illustrations I found online: http://www.lookandlearn.com/blog/?p=215 http://www.cardcow.com/images/set6/card10285_fr.jpg
75 DCA-ROCguy : In fairness to Grapevine, 18-36 West will bring aircraft somewhat close to the city's downtown district, which I suppose was there before the airport
76 RedTailDTW : All American Eagle Saab flights depart/arrive at gates B35-B39 BTW, does anyone know when United will finally move out of Terminal B? Mason
77 Ssides : I think United is still there because of the Red Carpet Club -- if they can find a way/place to move the club, they would probably do so, but I under
78 Commavia : It is, indeed, because of the RCC, but not quite for the reason Ssides mentioned. After Delta left in 2005, and left tons of open space in E, DFW mad
79 EXAAUADL : A couple of things..I have an OAG from 1973 and 1976 and it is interesting that BN didnt serve DFW-LAx/SFO/SAN/LAS/PHX Also I live the futuristic diag
80 EXAAUADL : Actually i think the pic might have 5 runways, still too few for 13 terminals
81 Jsnww81 : Wasn't Delta operating something crazy like three Crown Rooms in Terminal E when they closed the hub? Could United potentially move the RCC into one
82 Commavia : Amazingly, yes. AA had three Admirals Clubs spread over three terminals and Delta had three Crown Room Clubs in a single terminal. The only problem i
83 TN757Flyer : Yep. I recall seeing a WA D10 several times parked at one of the south end gates of 4E around the time of the merger. Not sure what the gate number w
84 DCA-ROCguy : Speaking of the satellite, someone correct me, but didn't DL's original idea have a matching satellite planned for the opposite corner of 4E? I know A
85 N160lh : Yes... Their were three... The big one is still at Gate 10, the small one in the satellite (used to love that one... mainly because it was closed on
86 TN757Flyer : I also seem to recall one of the earliest controversies for DFW was when their dollar bill changers only gave back 95 cents. That made news all the wa
87 Brons2 : Yeah really. In the first photo, it doesn't appear that there is any development at all between the airport and Grapevine Lake. Nowadays, that area i
88 CIDflyer : DFW is an awesome airport. I love terminal D, one of the best I have been to. Before they got most of the airlines to move from B to E after Delta clo
89 Commavia : Indeed it is. Like I said - I have traveled around the world, and probably been to 300-400 airports in my life, and I still keep coming back home to
90 Ramprat74 : I worked at DFW in 94/95. We United used gates 2-3-4. We also used gate 1 before Valujet came into DFW. All three gates had the Braniff logo's inside.
91 Jsnww81 : Correct - Gates 12 and 13 were the main 747 gates used by Braniff. That's why they have larger departure lounges jutting out from the terminal and do
92 Commavia : During AF's time at DFW - which I believe was 1999 to 2001 (I know it ended after 9/11, but not sure exactly when it started) - they were in E, and u
93 Jsnww81 : United definitely moved in the late 1990s - they were in the low 2W gates that AA took over first. Continental must have moved around the same time,
94 Commavia : Then it was 1999. The extension at the south end of B, and AA's opening of operations in that terminal, started in 1999 - May, I think. It wasn't nea
95 Phatfarmlines : Any reason behind why AA and EA would select this method operation in the beginning? Where were the gate podiums located? This seems highly inefficie
96 Commavia : I'd imagine it has something to do with the original design use for the terminal. It's important to remember that back in 1974, when the airport open
97 WA707atMSP : Until 1961, DAL - LAX / SFO / SAN / PHX were AA monopoly markets, and there was no single carrier service DAL-LAS. In 1961, DL was awarded DAL- LAX /
98 Tom in NO : The contributions of yours and others have carried it a long way further than I figured it would go. Somewhere at the house, I've got a business card
99 SWABrian : At the height of our flight numbers in the early 90s, we parked up to seven live flights on the ramp next to and in front of the online building. Pas
100 PExDCA : On my first business trip to Dallas I had a chance to stay at the Hyatt in DFW Airport and the Airtrans train had a stop there. I must have rode that
101 Davidlc3 : Trivia Moment.... We were building a house when DFW was under construction....we could not get concrete for the foundation as all available concrete w
102 Airbatica : I drove by that section of the B terminal today. The double jetbridges are in fact still there and in use. It appears that Eagle is replacing the "fi
103 Post contains images Tom in NO : I found it last night. Here it is.....the date on it is November 1, 1983: Tom at MSY
104 Post contains images Tom in NO : While I was digging up the Airtrans card last night, I also dug up this DFW guide that Braniff put out. I had to scan it in sections.....this first on
105 William : Thanks Tom for the walk down memory lane.
106 Albydal : I grew up in Dallas and remember taking a kindergarten field trip to DFW around 1988-89. One of the parts I remember vividly was touring the Airtrans
107 Jsnww81 : I did a field trip to DFW in the second grade (which for me was the 1988-1989 school year.) One of my classmates' mothers was a Delta flight attendan
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