Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3595 posts, RR: 5 Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2060 times:
What intra-Hawaiian routes exist / existed that by-passed HNL and have been served by something larger than single-engined Cessna 208s or Cessna 402/404s? I.e., any aircraft type including or larger than a 19 seater.
The only such routes I have been on have been KOA-OGG and ITO-KOA on Island Air.
Has there ever been stuff like KOA-LIH, ITO-OGG, LIH-OGG by Hawaiian, Aloha, MidPacific, Royal Hawaiian, Discovery, Mahalo?
Aloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2304 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2024 times:
Ytib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 493 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1981 times:
Quoting Vfw614 (Thread starter): Has there ever been stuff like KOA-LIH, ITO-OGG, LIH-OGG by Hawaiian, Aloha, MidPacific, Royal Hawaiian, Discovery, Mahalo?
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3595 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1716 times:
Thnaks for the list. Surprised to see so many of these flights.
Has it ever been seriously discussed to serve places like Waimea, Hana or Princeville again by something larger than a Cessna (e.g. by Island Air ?). I think at one point Hawaiian served Waimea with their Shorts 330, and Hana used to be served by the even larger Convairs. Have the road conditions improved so much that transiting through KOA, OGG or LIH instead is attractive enough even for pax who are not overly cost-sensitive? Or is the main reason for the lack of such flights that with direct flights from the mainland to KOA, LIH and OGG it is nowadays just an additional car-drive to reach these places rather than a connecting flight from HNL plus the drive?
Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3139 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1576 times:
When WP went all Dash8, it left Princeville without air service, unless air taxi carriers serve there.
IIRC ... LW serves Hana & Kamuela with their Caravans.
As beautiful as these places are, the amount of pax traffic doesn't support anything larger than a Caravan, except maybe a Twin Otter.
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Jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1859 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1424 times:
Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 3): I think at one point Hawaiian served Waimea with their Shorts 330
Even better than the 330, in the late 1960s and for much of the 1970s, Hawaiian served Waimea with the DC9. There was a daily run from HNL, continuing on to either Hilo or Kona (the old Kona airport closer to town) depending on the day. I believe at various points there was an OGG-MUE service with the DC9 as well.
In those pre-Deregulation days I suppose it made more sense - before 1970, when Keahole airport and the Queen Kaahumanu Highway were finished, it was difficult for Waimea/Kohala coast residents to get to either ITO or the old KOA. I'm not sure when Hawaiian dropped DC9 flights at MUE, but it was most likely in the late 1970s.
Up until a few years ago, Hawaiian was running jets through LNY and MKK as well, on the HNL-LNY-MKK-HNL milk run.
Jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1859 posts, RR: 17 Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1200 times:
Just did a bit more digging - looks like Hawaiian dropped MUE in 1977-1979. I believe HNM was dropped when the airline went all-jet.
In the 1950s Hawaiian also served Upolu on the Big Island. OGG took over as the main Maui airport in 1951, if I'm not mistaken - prior to that civilian flights used the airport south of Puunene.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4397 posts, RR: 17 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1163 times:
Quoting Jsnww81 (Reply 6): In the 1950s Hawaiian also served Upolu on the Big Island. OGG took over as the main Maui airport in 1951, if I'm not mistaken - prior to that civilian flights used the airport south of Puunene.
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