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Ryanair: Major Expansion At Barcelona Girona  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19260 posts, RR: 52
Posted (6 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

From: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=08&month=apr&story=rte-en-020408

RYANAIR ANNOUNCES MAJOR EXPANSION AT BARCELONA GIRONA

14 AIRCRAFT, 75 ROUTES, 8M PASSENGERS AND 8,000 JOBS BY 2012

Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline today (2nd April) announced that it will add 5 new aircraft at its Barcelona Girona base as part of a major expansion that will increase Ryanair’s Girona routes to 75 and passenger numbers to 8m p.a. by 2012.

These 8 million passengers will save €800m compared to Iberia’s high fares and fuel surcharges at Barcelona El Prat and will generate a visitor spend of €1.2bn p.a. in the Catalan region.

Announcing today’s Girona expansion, Ryanair’s Deputy CEO Michael Cawley said;

“Ryanair started flying from Barcelona Girona, our first Spanish airport, in 2002 and the partnership has been a phenomenal success, bringing Europe’s guaranteed lowest fares to millions of Catalans and providing the region with millions of visitors from all over Europe.

“This expansion will see Ryanair’s investment at the airport rise to 14 aircraft worth $1bn. This will support 8,000 jobs in the region, including 500 highly paid Ryanair pilot, cabin crew and engineering positions.

“We congratulate the Catalan region’s success in securing this low cost agreement against robust competition from other low cost, efficient European airports which will now place business and tourism throughout Catalonia on a fast track for growth”.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Our very own FR publicity man is in overdrive. i remember when Gerona, not Girona, why do FR spell it like that? was the preserve of charter airlines and they served a full service to holidaymakers even on a 1.45 min sector to LGW.

User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Also its Gerona, gateway to Costa Brava, ie Lloret de Mar and not Barcelona!!!

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19260 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 3980 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 1):
Our very own FR publicity man is in overdrive.

Oh, shut up you ChavvyCharterQueen.  Wink

Girona = Catalan spelling
Gerona = Spanish spelling



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineACEregular From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3867 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):


Quoting Orion737 (Reply 1):
Our very own FR publicity man is in overdrive.

Oh, shut up you ChavvyCharterQueen.

Girona = Catalan spelling
Gerona = Spanish spelling

Cheers Pe@rson, I'll put my fingers to rest.


User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6456 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3834 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
Girona = Catalan spelling
Gerona = Spanish spelling

According to the Spanish Constitution you mean Castilian (Castellano) spellling!  Wink

And of course there is also Galician (Gallego) and Basque (Euskera) as other "official" languages in Spain among other regional languages.



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3834 times:

Its just i never saw it written as Girona anywhere else. Package holiday brochures since the 70s have refered to the airport as Gerona and used it as a gateway to the Costa Brava. it was never used to access Barcelona seriously until Ryanair marketed it as Girona Barcelona.

User currently offlineACEregular From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Queue Violins and the story of the sad demise of G-BYAG operating a Thomson package holiday flight aboard a boeing 757-200 featuring Britannia's 360 service from Caqrdiff to Gerona in September 1999.

User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 3530 times:



Quoting Planemaker (Reply 5):
According to the Spanish Constitution you mean Castilian (Castellano) spellling! Wink

Both Castillian (Castellano) and Spanish (Español) are they official designation. You can use one or another, both are correct.



Flying Together
User currently offlineIb16uk From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 3450 times:

Exciting news for Girona base

Any body have any ideas on the new routes these 5 new planes will fly on ??


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2759 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3367 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
Its just i never saw it written as Girona anywhere else. Package holiday brochures since the 70s have refered to the airport as Gerona and used it as a gateway to the Costa Brava. it was never used to access Barcelona seriously until Ryanair marketed it as Girona Barcelona.

As Pe@arson said GIRONA is the correct spelling in Catalan, the regional and official language of the area. I'm sure FR is just trying to appeal to the local market (for once I defend an FR action) compared to IB in BCN who are seen as very Spanish (not Catalan). If you travel to the area, you will see GIRONA everywhere.



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Will that make Girona/Gerona Ryanair's largest continental base, replacing HHN?

User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6456 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3364 times:



Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 8):
Both Castillian (Castellano) and Spanish (Español) are they official designation. You can use one or another, both are correct.

Sorry but not so. While almost everyone knows what one means when using Español in the context of the "language" however it is not "official designation."

From the constitution...

Artículo 3

1. El castellano es la lengua española oficial del Estado. Todos los españoles tienen el deber de conocerla y el derecho a usarla.

2. Las demás lenguas españolas serán también oficiales en las respectivas Comunidades Autónomas de acuerdo con sus Estatutos.

3. La riqueza de las distintas modalidades lingüísticas de España es un patrimonio cultural que será objeto de especial respeto y protección.



Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - A. Einstein
User currently offlineMestrugo From Chile, joined Apr 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

Even non-catalan people in Spain call the city and its province 'Girona' nowadays. I also remember when they switched car license plates from GE- to GI- for Gironese cars. That is, before the province-based system was abandoned in favor of the cryptic system they use nowadays.

Then again, the airport is 60 miles away from Barcelona, so calling it 'Girona - Barcelona' is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion. Kinda like New Hampshire's Manchester-Boston Regional Airport, about as far away from Boston as Girona's is from Barcelona.


User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3208 times:



Quoting Planemaker (Reply 12):
Sorry but not so. While almost everyone knows what one means when using Español in the context of the "language" however it is not "official designation."

From the constitution...

Excuse me, but you are wrong. I stated that both designations Castillian/Spanish were correct, therefor the use of one or another is clearly correct. Perhaps you would like to verify this on the website of Real Academia de la Lengua Española, it is the only organism who can dictate what it is and what it is not correct.



Flying Together
User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3188 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3185 times:



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 11):
Will that make Girona/Gerona Ryanair's largest continental base, replacing HHN?

No, as Hahn will also be growing according to the 2005 multi-year investment plan:

Quote:
Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 low fares airline today (11th November 2005) announced a $1 billion multi year expansion plan for its base at Frankfurt Hahn. By 2012 Ryanair will have 18 based aircraft, operate over 50 routes, carry 8 million passengers p.a. and have created over 8,000 jobs at Frankfurt Hahn airport.

Source: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=05&month=nov&story=gen-en-111105

So whereas GRO will have 14 a/c by 2012, HHN will still be larger with 18 a/c.

I don't know, however, to what extent the plan is still valid. But I haven't seen indications that it's not valid any longer.


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Has gerona lost any carriers since FR took over, I mean, moved in? Are there any charter flights remaining in Summer or is all one can see Ryanair planes?

User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3083 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
We congratulate the Catalan region’s success in securing this low cost agreement

Wonder what the conditions were. 50% of airport taxes earmarked for Ryanair, like in Billund?



I scratch my head, therefore I am.
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9113 posts, RR: 70
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3048 times:



Quoting ACEregular (Reply 7):
Queue Violins and the story of the sad demise of G-BYAG operating a Thomson package holiday flight aboard a boeing 757-200 featuring Britannia's 360 service from Caqrdiff to Gerona in September 1999.

Gerona and Britannia never really got on that great. When I flew there with BY back in 1996 we did two go arounds on our B762 and then diverted to BCN. Let me tell you, GRO-BCN isn't exactly that short a drive. It's 55 miles! Say I wanted to go to BCN and ended up in GRO then that would be 110 miles in a taxi return trip. Not exactly cheap!

Anyway, nice for FR. MAN-GRO starts soon right?



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Good point. Flying to Gerona with FR for a trip to barcelona may seem cheap but you got to figure in the fare to get from Gerona to Barcelona. As MYT332 points out it wont be cheap. I suppose FR Gerona flights are ok if you want to go to some resort that was popular in the 1970s with package tourists, like lloret De Mar !!! haha

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 811 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Does anybody know what routes will Ryanair be flying out of these airports?

Any guesses?



CY@Uk
User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6456 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2737 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 19):
Flying to Gerona with FR for a trip to barcelona may seem cheap but you got to figure in the fare to get from Gerona to Barcelona.

It really depends on what fare you get. I have sometimes gotten better fares on easyJet and when you factor in the tranport convenience and cost to BCN it is a better bet even if the FR fare & transport is slightly lower out of Girona.

Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 14):
Excuse me, but you are wrong. I stated that both designations Castillian/Spanish were correct, therefor the use of one or another is clearly correct.

No, you said... "Both Castillian (Castellano) and Spanish (Español) are the official designation."

Art. 3 of The Constitution clearly states Castellano... not Español - and that is the "official designation" of the language of Spain. And that is why I put a  Wink after my original comment. I never said that Español is incorrect... and all that the Real Academia reflects is that Españo has come into common usage.

So, until the Constitution is changed, Castellano remains the "official designation" of the language of Spain.  Smile



Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - A. Einstein
User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2668 times:



Quoting Planemaker (Reply 21):
No, you said... "Both Castillian (Castellano) and Spanish (Español) are the official designation."

Art. 3 of The Constitution clearly states Castellano... not Español - and that is the "official designation" of the language of Spain. And that is why I put a Wink after my original comment. I never said that Español is incorrect... and all that the Real Academia reflects is that Españo has come into common usage.

So, until the Constitution is changed, Castellano remains the "official designation" of the language of Spain.

Could you stop this?? i'm Spanish, i'm telling you both designations are official. The Spanish Constitution doesn't do the language ruling. It is the Real Academia Española de la Lengua. That organism decides what it is and what is it not correct, accepted or official. I insist, both Español and Castellano are the official designation of my mother language, and both, one or another, can be used. By using Castellano, the Spanish Constitution isn't saying that Español is not official.



Flying Together
User currently offlineTUIflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2590 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
Has gerona lost any carriers since FR took over, I mean, moved in? Are there any charter flights remaining in Summer or is all one can see Ryanair planes?

TOM still maintain a presence at GRO for the package holidays to the Costa Brava, although it isn't really a major destination like ALC, PMI or IBZ.

TUIflyer



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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1569 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

How will high fuel prices affect this expansion? Whatever Ryanair and MOL have done, they're still vulnerable.


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineTUIflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2558 times:



Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 24):

FR is big enough to handle the fuel costs, it will be the smaller airlines that will pay - as we have already seen with the likes of TZ and Aloha.

TUIflyer



Don't just travel, travel with a smile. . .
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