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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9323 times:

I know we have another thread where people are talking about how the resignation of the VP is a sign that Skybus is failing. But my question is about how it can be saved. I know that any moves has to be done by the company itself and that we as outsiders have no power. But what can the company do to avoid becoming the next airline to go down this year? Here are my 10 suggestions:

1. The people at the top need to meet and create a plan to return to profitability. They need to look at what is causing them to struggle and make these changes fast. They can tweek their business model enough so it works.

2. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. THEY HAVE TO OFFER CONNECTIONS! They need to reschedule their flights to allow this. Passengers will take their baggage off of the rack and then put it on the rack going onto the next plane they fly. There is nothing insecure about this as long as they don't leave the terminal because the bags have already been screened for any dangerous items. CMH and especially GSO have little O&D, but they are in good locations. In a few months GSO won't even have a flight to BOS. Why would flights to PSM work unless you're connecting?

3. 10 for $10 is great. But 25 for $25 or even 40 for $40 isn't that bad. If they could sell a ticket from PSM to BUR for $40 one way that is still a hell of a lot cheaper than any other airline. Oil is expensive and maybe down the road Skybus will be profitable enough and the economy will allow $10 fares to be more viable. But that isn't the case right now.

4. They have to do better reassessments of the cities they start service too. For instance, Buffalo didn't work but the reasons are fairly obvious: CMH is only a 5 hour drive away so there are a lot of people who would go that route, and like I said GSO has little O&D.

5. They need more customer service, like a phone number to call. Even if that means hiring people you will still get more money.

6. Advertising. Nobody knows who they are yet and they need to get their message out.

7. Customer surveys. You want to keep them happy so they'll keep coming back, and this is the way to do it.

8. IFE. You rent out small entertainment consoles and they will pay for themselves after a few flights. People would like to kill time playing games even if they aren't Halo, Guitar Hero, or Mario Kart. I've spent a lot of time playing Minesweeper. It's better than nothing.

9. I don't know anything about stocks, but maybe going public would help? If it doesn't let me know.

10. Adding new routes may not have been such a good idea. They should've waited a bit. ATA shrunk a bit to help offset costs, although obviously that didn't work.

I only get to fly on average once every three years. Even though there are people here who may disagree, I don't think it's too late for them and that the ULCC model can work in America. Metaphorically speaking they are a sinking ship but if the holes are plugged they will survive. This is one of the airlines I watch the most and I want to see them survive. Let's wish them luck and hope for the best.


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9288 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
1. The people at the top need to meet and create a plan to return to profitability. They need to look at what is causing them to struggle and make these changes fast. They can tweek their business model enough so it works.

That is a good start, though once they get a plan they have to make the commitment to follow through and not abandoned at the drop of a hat.



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9283 times:

Wait...

You want Skybus to survive?



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9255 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
9. I don't know anything about stocks, but maybe going public would help? If it doesn't let me know.

This is an awful market for IPO's, and would be even worse for an airline. If they went public and the shares bombed, it could be a death blow. From today's WSJ, it sounds like Skybus might not be as in bad shape as some think:

A spokesman said Skybus still intends to turn a profit sometime this year but is trimming its schedule, dropping some routes and reducing the number of daily flights on others due to fuel prices.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120722184832186009.html

Of course, the Bear Stearns chief was harping on how their liquidity was fine, and we see what happened to them.

Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):

8. IFE. You rent out small entertainment consoles and they will pay for themselves after a few flights. People would like to kill time playing games even if they aren't Halo, Guitar Hero, or Mario Kart. I've spent a lot of time playing Minesweeper. It's better than nothing.

They probably shouldn't be investing some much needed capital in IFE at this time. That can probably wait until another expansionary period in the industry, if they make it that far.



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User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9237 times:

Why would you want to save Skybus? it is a bottom feeder and a disgrace to airline, it deserves its fate and good luck to th idiots that took A320 jobs for RJ wages undercutting all their fellow pilots wages.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9186 times:



Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 2):
You want Skybus to survive?



Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
Why would you want to save Skybus? it is a bottom feeder and a disgrace to airline, it deserves its fate and good luck to th idiots that took A320 jobs for RJ wages undercutting all their fellow pilots wages.

I don't exactly have the same sentiment as the thread starter, but if they pull it together and prove they can function and compete as a viable airline, good for them. If not, they will simply fold and confirm the majority's opinion on them. Time will tell.

Personally, I give them less than a year, if that, but it will be interesting how it plays out.



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User currently offlineJayDub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9193 times:

Let them die. SkyBus is yet another example of a failed business model and failed product...and is a disgrace to an industry that is already a shadow of its former self...

[Edited 2008-04-04 09:51:47]

User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9116 times:

Do we need yet another Skybus thread? This poor horse has been beaten to death. JayDub is right. Let them die. Let's get back to more productive threads, like why Boeing is better than Airbus.  duck 

User currently offlineFlyer62 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 9097 times:

here we go again bashing skybus! give them a chance! I guess alot of you dont remember People Express? Skybus is alot like people Express.the same consept,you pay for food,drinks, and checking bags,People Express was a very succesful airline until they expanded to fast and was killed by the competition,of course People Express had a diffferent route structure than SkyBus.all Skybus needs to do is better their management and tweak their route system and business modelAlso they badly need flights to either MCO or SFB! Orlando is a money maker! so folks give them a chance! dont knock them if you have never flown them,they do need to offer connections as well to better their service.I flew them from PSM to CMH and the service was good,ontime departure and arrivalthe aircraft clean,on board service was good and friendly flight attendants and Skybus does not fly A-320s its A-319s

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9031 times:
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Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
create a plan to return to profitability

That is a large assumption. How are you measuring profitability? They are just now a year old, so there really is no history here...


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1922 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8996 times:

So, why would Skybus surviving with ALL of these changes (which would make them less Skybus-like) be better than just letting it go and having other airlines fill the void?

It seems (from a distance, admittedly) that most of the points of their business model are high risk with regard to customer acceptance... and I don't think it's working. If they change all of those things then they're just a "me too" airline.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8998 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
1. The people at the top need to meet and create a plan to return to profitability.

Further, how can you "return" to profitability when you were NEVER profitable and your business plan is unlikely to ever make you so.

Isn't that just like saying: "start a new airline with a different plan." ?

If that's so, I vote for someone just starting a new airline with a different plan...  Wink



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User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3147 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8926 times:

I'd argue that there is less wrong with the Skybus business model than their network model.

With their product, they need to be heavy into high demand, leisure-focused markets that can generate volume under most any circumstance. I'm happy to see them focusing more attention on Florida. They need to do a LOT more of that and they particularly need to be in the deepest Florida market of all, Central Florida.

They need to start generating some cash flow. No market has the ability to do that for SX like Central Florida. They ought to be taking advantage of the fact that families are getting priced out of the market by fare increases at even the other LCC's. They can truly provide an alternative. That should be their focus. Hopefully they will figure it out before it is too late.


User currently offlineGregarious119 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 531 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8792 times:



Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
Why would you want to save Skybus? it is a bottom feeder and a disgrace to airline, it deserves its fate and good luck to th idiots that took A320 jobs for RJ wages undercutting all their fellow pilots wages.

Boy...this is really in the spirit of an airline enthusiast's website, eh?

So you're blaming these guys for taking jobs on nicer aircraft? For the same wages, if I got to choose between working on an iMac or a Dell, I'd choose the iMac. For the same wages, if I got to choose driving a mid-size sedan or a pinto....I think I'd choose the sedan.

Catching the trend?


User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8760 times:



Quoting JayDub (Reply 6):
Let them die. SkyBus is yet another example of a failed business model and failed product...and is a disgrace to an industry that is already a shadow of its former self...

The same could be said for a lot of US legacies.


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2639 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8720 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
The people at the top need to meet and create a plan to return to profitability.

return??? To return to something , you had to once be there.

Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. THEY HAVE TO OFFER CONNECTIONS!

I agree with you on this!!!

Quoting BOStonsox (Thread starter):
They need more customer service, like a phone number to call.

Also agree.. is there any other airline that does not have a phone number??



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User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 968 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8710 times:



Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 7):
Do we need yet another Skybus thread? This poor horse has been beaten to death. JayDub is right. Let them die. Let's get back to more productive threads, like why Boeing is better than Airbus.

Absolutely LOL, but wait you put a comment in, so......

Quoting Gregarious119 (Reply 13):
Boy...this is really in the spirit of an airline enthusiast's website, eh?

Since when was SX a REAL airline?
Wait I'll call 'em on my cell and ask 'em.
Does anyone happen to have their number?

Let's keep this up. Afterall we need a stupid business model to bash bash bash.
Wait I'm off to write a book!
No, I don't agree so I am going to take the rest of my life off.

Wait their 45% load factor is a sure link to Profits, I can see the dough rolling into this well thought through plan.



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlineMcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1436 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8660 times:

Having Skybus fail is better for the industry than them surviving. It is a carrier that has taken draconian steps at employees pay and benefits. It does nothing to better the industry and is failing because of the unrealistic fares and true operating cost. While I will personally mourn the loss of AQ and TZ as they were long established carriers with rich history, carriers such as VX and SX are not part of the group that I would mourn their loss. With capacity at the current rates the new entrants tread on the margin of first year rates of pay for employees and warranties on airplanes. Maybe even 100bbl oil will eat away this margin and allow these companies to assume the role of the dodo bird.

User currently offlineLuisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8511 times:



Quoting Gregarious119 (Reply 13):
So you're blaming these guys for taking jobs on nicer aircraft? For the same wages, if I got to choose between working on an iMac or a Dell, I'd choose the iMac. For the same wages, if I got to choose driving a mid-size sedan or a pinto....I think I'd choose the sedan.

Catching the trend?

But what if everyone else is paying more for you to work on an iMac and a Sedan than a Dell or a Pinto and one company comes by and says I'll pay you the same but your equipment will be better, then all the other companies lower their wages on iMacs and Sedans and pinto and dell wages become even lower.

Catching the trend?

A pilot USUALLY doesn't care what he is flying, $ and quality of life SHOULD be the determining factor in taking a job, not Shiny New Jet Syndrome. SkyBus Pilots and Flight Attendants are scabs in my book.

But wait I just remember that all pilots are prima donas with millions in the bank working 10 days a month with a wife three mistresses five houses and 3 Ferraris. Get it straight most regionals pay poverty wages and airlines like SkyBus and idiots with Shiny New Jet syndrome are the reason for this.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8488 times:



Quoting Luisca (Reply 18):
SkyBus Pilots and Flight Attendants are scabs in my book.

If someone is willing to work for less, then that's the salary the market has settled on. That's how markets work.

Quoting Luisca (Reply 18):
Get it straight most regionals pay poverty wages and airlines like SkyBus and idiots with Shiny New Jet syndrome are the reason for this.

If people weren't willing to work at those wages, then they would be forced to pay more. The fact is that there is an oversupply of pilots, leading to lower wages. Whining isn't going to stop it.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8455 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 12):
They need to do a LOT more of that and they particularly need to be in the deepest Florida market of all, Central Florida.

i agree, i still am suprised they havent done LAL yet....under 45 min to TPA AND MCO!, Plus its closer to disney than SFB is!!

The other option is TIX which can be Orlando/Port Canveral/Cocoa Beach. TIX is a towered, Part 139 airport already which was more than PGD was prior to Skybus.



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User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8379 times:



Quoting BillReid (Reply 16):
Absolutely LOL, but wait you put a comment in, so......

HaHa. It's infectious I guess. I find it amazing they still have cheerleaders left, although the numbers are dwindling.


User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8361 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 19):
If someone is willing to work for less, then that's the salary the market has settled on. That's how markets work.

They only take these jobs in hopes of gaining the experiance they need to get on with CAL, DAL, UAL, etc. The sad thing is by taking jobs like this they put another shot in the heart of the companies they really want to work for.


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3147 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8360 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 20):
i agree, i still am suprised they havent done LAL yet....under 45 min to TPA AND MCO!, Plus its closer to disney than SFB is!!

The other option is TIX which can be Orlando/Port Canveral/Cocoa Beach. TIX is a towered, Part 139 airport already which was more than PGD was prior to Skybus.

Don't forget MLB. Turnkey operation there.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8321 times:



Quoting Okie73 (Reply 22):

They only take these jobs in hopes of gaining the experiance they need to get on with CAL, DAL, UAL, etc. The sad thing is by taking jobs like this they put another shot in the heart of the companies they really want to work for.

But the fact remains that there are too many pilots out there for too few jobs, and it will just get worse as more airlines liquidate and merge.

That's the problem with labor, it makes people think that they not only have a right to jobs, but a right to a certain salary level in those jobs. And to top that off they call the people who are just trying to earn a living "scabs."



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25 Caspian27 : Exactly! People Express was a low-morale, low quality airline that put alot of people out of business. My father lost his job with Frontier due to th
26 RL757PVD : Im sure MLB would be able to offer a sweet deal as well, I just question MLB's abaility to serve the "Mouse" crowd (Disnet etc). MLB would be great i
27 Jetlanta : 70 miles to Disney on US-192. 26 miles to the Port...plus sits perfectly in between St. Augustine and Ft. Lauderdale along the coast.
28 RL757PVD : Id still like to see LAL for their Mouse-port but i agree MLB fits in well for their Florida puzzle. MLB SJG (now UST) LAL PGD and FLL are each a sim
29 ScottB : That doesn't work. As an example, it is permissible to have a knife or liquids in checked baggage -- so allowing someone to access his or her checked
30 QuestAir : Is it likely that Skybus will be around by the end the month? Or will they fold sooner?
31 MOBflyer : The $10 fares are a loss leader and they are much cheaper than a frequent flier program - and are arguably more effective. The $10 fares are the hear
32 Socalfive : This is the year that the weak will perish. If they're already hobbling on a crutch, they're in trouble. I don't wish any of them to die, but those th
33 Drewwright : There are currently too many doctors in the US for too few jobs. Do the same laws of supply and demand still apply? We are already seeing signs of di
34 Caspian27 : Welcome to my RR list! People don't understand the truth...My first 3 years of 121 flying I made around 20k per year. City bus drivers have less resp
35 Newark777 : I think you just answered your own question there. Who knows, why don't you ask some doctors. I don't feel they are greedy, just that they feel that
36 BOStonsox : While this is yet another Skybus thread the others didn't really discuss how they could survive. I know Skybus isn't the friendliest airline out there
37 Boo22 : turn out the lights the party is over..... No mas.
38 Okie73 : I'm going to disagree. At the regional level, airlines are having a hard time filling new hire positions. Minimum qualifications have been lowered to
39 AirframeAS : I actually agree with DeltaAVL's logic on this. The flying public has. Yet, SX has not changed their business model since day 1 of ops and still doin
40 BlueShamu330s : Man, that's one big chip on those 21-25 year old shoulders. Welcome to the real world of supply and demand. Shamu
41 BOStonsox : And if the rumors are true that Skybus is dead, that is why. I mean, they didn't have to completely change their business model. Some parts of it wer
42 Cadet57 : Well the other thread is gone. I see no news articles via google, and posts here have been deleted. I think this is someone dropping bs. Thou, as I s
43 Luisca : 21-25 year old shoulders that have to work two jobs and prays he doesn't get sick because he cant afford health insurance all just to pay rent and bi
44 TN757Flyer : As soon as I saw that post, I started looking for news, and saw nothing. My guess it the person was just stirring the pot. While I expect it (SX goin
45 BOStonsox : Me too. Nada.
46 ZuluLima : I wasn't pot-stirring. Check my post history, that's not what I do. I have it on good authority that Skybus will be no more as of the last CMH flight
47 Rojo : In my opinion, it is good that Skybus started flying from Columbus since local companies were the ones backing up the business plan, but it should hav
48 BlueShamu330s : So stop blaming flight crew who, in their view (and to which they are entitled), are furthering their career by progressing onto bigger metal for a c
49 FlyDeltaJets87 : This implies they were profitable at some point, which to my knowledge, they haven't been. Yes there is. You can put "dangerous weapons" like guns, k
50 TN757Flyer : OK. So if no announcement is made, then we can assume what? Your sources are unreliable? It is indeed a pot stirring? Trust me I'm not fan of the Bus
51 Cadet57 : I questioned it earler. All Im saying is wait for tomorrow morning. Thats all.
52 KAA330 : okay just make SX Florida! itll fly A318/19/20 from MCO,LAL,SFB and TIX to CMH Just my thoughts
53 MAH4546 : That's why it is "insider information." You obviously cannot link to insider information, or it wouldn't be insider.
54 TN757Flyer : Well all I can say is, their website is taking reservations. I just made a "test" reservation for May, CMH-SWF-CMH and it let me get as far as the pa
55 Surfrider1978 : Like the typical " I heard a flight attendant and a pilot talking and they told me....."
56 BOStonsox : Already responded to that one. You can? I didn't know that. But I'm sure they can have someone move the checked baggage from flight to flight. At fir
57 Cadet57 : Or or, My cousin who is a contract worker talked to a caterer who heard it from a lav cleaner who slept with a mesa flight attendant and she said...
58 Surfrider1978 : haha.. i had a bad day and that just made me laugh...good stuff!!!
59 FlyDeltaJets87 : Are you being sarcastic here (sorry, tone and emotions are often hard to read over the internet). Nah- definitely Bean Town. I guess it all depends o
60 MAH4546 : ATA was taking reservations until 11.45PM, fifteen minutes before announcing shut-down.
61 Jetblueguy22 : COnnection are big. I bet most pax flying connect. They need to add that option. Raising ticket prices would also be good. Like you said 40 for $40 i
62 Mawelsh : Mmmm...wow the other day they cancelled my Wednesday CMH to BUR flights in July and I had the chance to rebook another day or get a refund. I'm thinki
63 Nkops : I'm guessing the whole point of this thread has become moot now.... sorry Skybus employees.
64 AAflyguy : Yeah, just read the article on the Columbus Dispatch homepage...ciao SkyBus..shortlived venture.
65 Post contains images Jetblueguy22 : Skybus    Its sad to see 3 go in 1 week. Hope we don't see more. For the employees of Skybus I hope you all find jobs soon. Blue[Edited 2008-04-04 1
66 Post contains links AirTran737 : http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live...ss/stories/2008/04/04/skybust.html she's dead
67 GALLEYSTEW : Honestly, I wouldn't want to see any other airline stop flying. BUT, that being said, these last few years were NOT the best time to start a new carri
68 Qantas787 : I guess there has to be a millisecond somewhere when it goes from go-stop.
69 FlyDeltaJets87 : Make that four: Aloha Champion (announced they'll be ceasing operations in May, I believe) ATA Skybus. I believe that stock will now be worth $0.00.
70 FutureUALpilot : Thank God, and good riddance to that disgrace of an airline.
71 Post contains links COERJ145 : Straight from the horses mouth.... www.skybus.com Skybus Airlines will cease all operations effective Saturday, April 5. Skybus struggled to overcome
72 COERJ145 :
73 Nkops : think it might be time to lock this thread.... it's kind of pointless now, isn't it??
74 BAKJet : This week sure has been a hard one for the airline industry, hasn't it. RIP Aloha ATA Champion Air Skybus
75 Bohlman : Not to mention FreedomA possibly losing their Delta contract, which to my knowledge is most of their business. Here's a question though, what happens
76 Ikramerica : Yep. Only two issues. Everything else was great. Business plan was bullet proof. It wasn't THEIR fault this happened...
77 Jetdeltamsy : Why all the negativity about this new entrant. They have a different business model because more traditional models are not working. It would be refr
78 TN757Flyer : Yeah, I'll admit I was wrong on the timing, but who can blame me? This forum is rife with people who claim to have inside information and most of the
79 Avek00 : No disrespect, but this HAS to be one of the funniest threads of all time....
80 EA CO AS : SX execs must sleep so much easier knowing THEY had nothing to do with this - it's just something that "happened to them."
81 Ikramerica : ROFL. Well, I'm already lying down, but I am laughing out loud. LOL. Maybe they should have read a.net back in fall of 2006 when we all told them ord
82 Mir : People did. And it didn't work out. Perhaps someone now will. The SX model had promise, but their route structure made absolutely no sense at all. -M
83 Ikramerica : No no, please no. I didn't mean start another airline with that model. I meant start another airline with a different model. A different plan. Here's
84 BOStonsox : Yeah, I know. I saw a post yesterday (or maybe today?) where someone said they would be gone in two weeks. I didn't believe him. But who knew they'd
85 Mariner : When did anyone on a.net give them a chance? mariner
86 StuckInCA : You did, unless I'm mistaken. There were a few.
87 Ikramerica : I'll take the morphine if he's not gonna need it... There were a few, actually. I went back and read some of the threads. There were some staunch sup
88 Mariner : A very few. Mostly - understandably - the people who worked for them, or who had some connection with them. mariner
89 Post contains links Diamond : Please continue all Skybus conversations in the following thread: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3919268/
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