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Around The World On ZED Fares?  
User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6849 times:

So I have vacation starting on the 14th and have 17 days(at least) in a row off. And since my parents are gone, I have no one to travel with. So I figured I'd just hop on a plane at LAX and head west and just go around the world using ZED fares(non-revenue standby for airline employees). So basically I'm just curious what tips any of you on here would have as far as...

1)Basic flight logistics. I'm thinking US-Singapore-SYD(A380 flight)-India-South Africa-Middle East-Europe and back.
-what are good times, routes, airlines, etc...
2)finding a place to stay in these places the day you show up
3)currency exchange

I know this is kind of a random thread and all over the place. But any help from those of you who have done anything like this would be greatly appreciated!


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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6844 times:



Quoting FlyUSCG (Thread starter):
Basic flight logistics. I'm thinking US-Singapore-SYD(A380 flight)-India-South Africa-Middle East-Europe and back.
-what are good times, routes, airlines, etc...

FWIW, SQ has NO ZED fares with any airlines. The best you can do is ID75.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6833 times:

Tip #1....Avoid Hawaii right now if you want to non-rev. With the demise of AQ and TZ, every flight on every airline into and out of HNL is full.

You could go LAX-NRT-SIN-SYD on SQ, then SYD-JNB on QF, then JNB-DBX-LHR/CDG/FRA on Emirates and then back to the US from there.

Have fun.

HALFA



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6832 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 1):
FWIW, SQ has NO ZED fares with any airlines.

Why is that?

HALFA



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6811 times:

Just three years ago a buddy and I used ZED fares to go around the world in five days. We were both supervisors in PIT for US Airways Express and just decided to go one week. We left PIT on a Monday afternoon on a US CRJ200 to EWR. From EWR we took the train JFK and took a VS 744 to LHR and arrived on Tuesday. Later that Tuesday we flew BA to HKG and arrived Wednesday afternoon. On Thursday we took a CX 744 to LAX that arrived that same day thanks to the International Date Line. We arrived back home Friday via a few connecting flights state side. All told the trip cost less than $350.

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6789 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 3):
Why is that?

HALFA

They would have to be reciprocal. The only OAL agreements are ID75. Staff travel isn't a big priority at SQ.


User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6787 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 1):
FWIW, SQ has NO ZED fares with any airlines. The best you can do is ID75

Just checked out my interline agreement packet and you're right. All it says is "75% SA Unlimited". And since I have no idea what an ID75 is, perhaps you could enlighten me!

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 4):
took a VS 744 to LHR and arrived on Tuesday

So do you basically just walk up to that airlines ticket counter and they can handle it right there for you? I also work for US Airways express and know about the travel office in CLT, but frankly, I have zero idea where and when I'm going to do this specifically so I'm guessing they would be of little help.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6773 times:

You need to buy the ZED fares from your own airline. I just called the airlines I planed on flying and checked the loads every other day and for about a week before hand. I had no trouble getting any seats until I got to LAX and tried to get to PIT. That took a bit of jumping around and connecting flights to get home. Just do you research and have a couple of back up flights with the ZED ticket in hand just in case. You can always get a full refund. Always have a way to get to your own companies ticket counter, even if its thousands of miles away. When we got to HKG we had a ZED ticket back to LHR, one to SFO and the ticket to LAX. If you get stuck the only place you can buy a ZED fare is with your company.

[Edited 2008-04-04 18:23:39]

User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6764 times:



Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 6):
And since I have no idea what an ID75 is, perhaps you could enlighten me!

I believe it's that 75% of the ticket price is covered by the airline.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6758 times:



Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 6):
Just checked out my interline agreement packet and you're right. All it says is "75% SA Unlimited". And since I have no idea what an ID75 is, perhaps you could enlighten me!

ID75 is a 75% discount on the highest unrestricted Y fare in the market. SQ does not offer any ID fares for any other class of service and you will not be accommodated in any other class. You are much better off purchasing a discounted fare and having a confirmed seat. Trying to go from SIN to anyplace in OZ or visa versa on SQ can be somewhat difficult during the slowest season and impossible during the peak seasons.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6725 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 5):

They would have to be reciprocal. The only OAL agreements are ID75. Staff travel isn't a big priority at SQ.

So hypothetically speaking, if our HA pass bureau manager emailed the SQ pass bureau manager with an offer of reciprocal unlimited ZED fares for staff of the two carriers, the SQ pass bureau manager would probably not except the offer, because staff travel isn't a big priority at SQ? Just curious. The staff of SQ has nothing better than ID75 agreements with any carrier? The SQ employees are ok with that?


HALFA



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6714 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 10):
So hypothetically speaking, if our HA pass bureau manager emailed the SQ pass bureau manager with an offer of reciprocal unlimited ZED fares for staff of the two carriers, the SQ pass bureau manager would probably not except the offer, because staff travel isn't a big priority at SQ? Just curious. The staff of SQ has nothing better than ID75 agreements with any carrier? The SQ employees are ok with that?

Well, it would be decided on by the HR Director. The answer would be thanks but no thanks. Generally speaking, we only have ID75 on any other carrier. As far as employees being OK with that, we don't really have any other options than to be satisfied.

The rationale for the lack of ZED agreements is simple. SQ has more business than they can handle, they don't want to have NRSA travel dilute their product. Whether or not anyone agrees with that is a mute point. That position is managements position and it won't change in my lifetime.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6699 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
As far as employees being OK with that, we don't really have any other options than to be satisfied.

Thanks for your response. It's very interesting to me. Are your employees at SQ allowed to travel NRSA on your own carrier? If so, the argument made about diluting the product wouldn't make much sense.

HALFA



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6685 times:



Quoting HALFA (Reply 12):
Thanks for your response. It's very interesting to me. Are your employees at SQ allowed to travel NRSA on your own carrier? If so, the argument made about diluting the product wouldn't make much sense

Yes, we do get NRSA on our own carrier.

As far as the product dilution, you're preaching to the choir. The policy will not change in my lifetime, so you either accept it or move on to another carrier. To be honest, it's not a big deal with full flights and the hassles that go along with NRSA travel.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6675 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 13):
As far as the product dilution, you're preaching to the choir.

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Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 13):
To be honest, it's not a big deal with full flights and the hassles that go along with NRSA travel.

I guess I didn't realize that SQ's load factors were so high. I've often thought of using SQ for my travels around the world but it would require catching them from LAX as you no longer serve HNL. Guess I'll have to cross SQ off of my ZED fare wish list.  Sad

Aloha,
HALFA



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