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User currently offlineMSP718 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

I was thinking tonight, with the shut down of ATA do you think Sun Country would be interested in purchasing any of there 737-800's or try to get some gates at MDW?

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User currently offlineAAH732UAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2823 times:



Quoting MSP718 (Thread starter):
I was thinking tonight, with the shut down of ATA do you think Sun Country would be interested in purchasing any of there 737-800's or try to get some gates at MDW?

Maybe but SCX is not in the best of health again right now if I am right? And the last time they tried fleet growth during a sick time, they closed down.


User currently offlineExpressjet_erj From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Sun Country just announced reductions and furloughs. So I would say probably not.

I could see the break down of ATA aircraft something like this:

738s: CO, DL, WN (long shot, but possible)
752s: DL, CO
753s: CO, NW



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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2737 times:



Quoting Expressjet_erj (Reply 2):
738s: CO, DL, WN (long shot, but possible)
752s: DL, CO
753s: CO, NW

AA may very well be interested in TZ's 738's...


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2619 times:



Quoting Expressjet_erj (Reply 2):
753s: CO, NW

Probably CO would want them. ATA's(and CO's) 753s have Rolls-Royce engines. NW's 753s have Pratt and Whitney engines(they are the only airline operating 753s with pratts).


User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2655 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2453 times:
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Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 4):
NW's 753s have Pratt and Whitney engines(they are the only airline operating 753s with pratts).

But isn't their a kit where they can convert them to P&W?
Blue



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4266 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2440 times:



Quoting Expressjet_erj (Reply 2):
I could see the break down of ATA aircraft something like this:

738s: CO, DL, WN (long shot, but possible)
752s: DL, CO
753s: CO, NW

There is also some land mass outside the USA, as you might have heared. Especially if there will be a recession, CO, DL and NW won't be interested either, while airlines in India, China, the Mid east and Russia still seem to pick up anything that flies and pay good money for it.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7504 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2304 times:



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 5):
But isn't their a kit where they can convert them to P&W?
Blue

Yes and its not hard, just expensive.



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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2655 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2208 times:
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Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 7):
Yes and its not hard, just expensive.

Oh. Do you know how much?
Blue



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2136 times:



Quoting Expressjet_erj (Reply 2):
Sun Country just announced reductions and furloughs. So I would say probably not.

Yea their busy time of year is over so I doubt it. Send back the Transavia Leases and tread water for awhile.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7504 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2128 times:



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 8):
Oh. Do you know how much?
Blue

I don't I just remember a memo a long while ago about what it would cost NW to convert the engines and NW didn't think it would be worth the cost.



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User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 903 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2092 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9):
Send back the Transavia Leases and tread water for awhile.

That's the story of Sun Country's life. I think with the current, very careful management (look at their slowwww expansion since bankruptcy) that this summer will be hard, but it won't bust the company.



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User currently offlinePAAClipper707 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2023 times:



Quoting Expressjet_erj (Reply 2):

Dont forget AS..... might be in the market to pick up some ATA 738's



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User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2023 times:



Quoting N908AW (Reply 11):
That's the story of Sun Country's life. I think with the current, very careful management (look at their slowwww expansion since bankruptcy)

They are slow to grow becuase last time they tried to go head to head one some pretty popular NW routes out of here, and clearly lost. They dont want to make the same mistake twice. The Transiva deal is nice. It gives them additional airplanes when needed, winter time in Minnesota. SY may be fuloughing and reducing back, but going as far as to say they will shut down is putting it out there IMHO.



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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1548 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

SY has been through a lot in the years, I dont think it is there time yet. They have a decent following here in MSP and do well in the winter season. Yes, this summer might be difficult for them, but I think they should be able to weather it out. If need be, they can send a number of there birds to Transavia for there busy season  Wink


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