However many people here in the UK - myself included - do not consider these to be true London airports. I know they have London in their names but that is really only for propaganda purposes. The only true London airports are Heathrow, Gatwick and City.
And if you assume on average 350 seats per flight this means there are about 26.000 seats available on a daily basis between the two cities (if you consider both directions).
It truly is astonishing.
The levels of capacity traffic - to say nothing of profitability and prestige - on the air route between New York and London is virtually without equal anywhere else in the world.
These are, obviously, the world's two greatest cities (I would argue, though some would say there are others in the same league) and the economic, social, political and cultural ties between them are staggeringly immense.
UAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 39395 times:
Waw, i would say this is the most number of flights between two international cities.
Is it DXB that comes after New York from London ??
EK - 5 LHR, 3 LGW
BA- 3 LHR
VS- 1 LHR
Silver Jet- 1 STN
Biman- 1 LHR
Royal Brunei- 1 LHR
Pizzaandplanes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 38555 times:
Quoting F.pier (Reply 10): And if you assume on average 350 seats per flight this means there are about 26.000 seats available on a daily basis between the two cities (if you consider both directions).
I would be surprised if the average is that high! Remember, Eos and Silverjet are only 48 seats. CO operates 757's to LGW which are only 210 and the 767 max capacity is around 220.
That makes a total of 10 daily flights non-stop to either JFK or EWR, the Continental 757s seating plan is 16 business/159 economy (175 total). The 767 wont be much more and the PIA 777 is from Pakistan so will not have many spare seats available onwards to NY. So a rough figure of about 1,750 seats a day is probably quite close, only a fraction of the 26,000 a day from the 'London' airports.
Also to be taken into account is LHR and LGW have a mass of flights to other US airports, the regionals do not so if you want to go elsewhere in the US from the regions you have to change at JFK/EWR or go to LHR/LGW, I think this makes the difference even greater between the seats from the regions compared to those from London airports.
I have thought for a few years now that Manchester WITH TWO RUNWAYS should be turned into the UKs third gateway after LHR/LGW but the system is so tunnel visioned its amazing hence STN has taken off.
Apollo13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 36843 times:
Now we are only askingthe question about New York London Flights, but are there flights to New York and return from other airports in England such as Manchester, Birmingham. If so then how many flights from England as a whole are there to New York? And then just for fun How many Flights are there a day (on average just to be simple) to the US from England and return as well?
LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 36685 times:
Quoting Apollo13 (Reply 21): Now we are only askingthe question about New York London Flights, but are there flights to New York and return from other airports in England such as Manchester, Birmingham. If so then how many flights from England as a whole are there to New York? And then just for fun How many Flights are there a day (on average just to be simple) to the US from England and return as well?
Post 20 has your answers sir. Most service to the UK regions from NY (EWR) is on Continental Airlines. They serve 8 UK cites - LHR, LGW, BRS, BHX, MAN, GLA, EDI and BFS.
8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 36327 times:
Quoting KennyK (Reply 20): Delta - 1 767 JFK or on days when this flight does not run a PIA 777
The Delta flight runs every day! And it is by a B757 now. PIA aren't there to step in if Delta do not run....Delta always run it! The PIA service is a completly different flight and runs I think about 4 x a week!
: Just a thought, Could someone with a bit know work out total flights capacity etc for SYD - MEL as there are alot of flights Razza74
: How 'bout ya, Maddog888, I'm with you on that. I can kind of see calling Gatwick and Heathrow London as they are close, or at least close by American
: Unless they have given new definition to a place where airplanes land and take off, then, yes they are airports. Just because they are not as well se
: Is this the route that QF operates every half and hour?
: See 8herveg's valid point: Also, 38 miles to Stansted. However if you are needing to go to East London then Stansted is a better option than Heathrow
: Using Stylo777's info: BA - 8 747's - 2328 seats (high-density business) 3 777's - 687 seats (4-class [Y+]) 1 767 - 180 seats BA total seats = 3195 V
: Yes, some frequencies are at 15min intervals Razza74
: I meant 26.000 for both directions. But 9.200 x 2 = 18.400 which is a quite big number,,,,
: Seems like there are 68 flights MEL-SYD tomorrow (Monday): Flight D MEL A SYD Equip QF 400 06:00 07:20 763 DJ 801 06:00 07:20 73G DJ 803 06:15 07:35
: Jeez, that is really many flights. Every 30minutes there is a QF flight.
: From the City of London - the financial heart, Gatwick is the quickest to get too, followed by Luton, with Heathrow trailing in third place. By rail
: AIRLINES WHO USED TO FLY LON-NYC. Before I get on to answer some stuff raised so far, how about this? Alitalia flew LHR-JFK with DC8s (from Rome of co
: Gatwick is such a pain to get to. Luton is great. Heatrow not too good. If I could go EWR-LTN or JFK-LTN in economy class, I'd be very happy!
: Did you get over it? Now, that's nothing and pales compared with Tokyo-Sapporo and Tokyo-Fukuoka.
: Each of them have direct train service to London.
: Not only that, but it's the same train line! Thameslink, or whatever it's called now. At Gatwick, the station is part of the terminal building, but a
: Gatwick is in many ways the best connected of all London airports, with fast trains from both London Bridge and Victoria, and direct rail links to mu
: Oh yeah, I just flew Air-India from JFK to LHR the other week, $219 one way inc tax. Wonderful flight. When the weather is cold, except December. Feb
: How do you figure 26,000 daily? Plus, not all flights have 350 seats as many are on B767s and some on B757s. If you want to be astonished I did this
: Yeah, but that's a domestic, short haul flight segment. It's really impressive to see that much capacity on a route, but it's not the same as seeing
: After New York,which city (long haul/outside of Europe) sees the highest number of frequencies from LON.I would imagine with 15 daily flights it would
: I thought HND-CTS was still the world's busiest air route in number of passengers.It was for many years. Has it now fallen behind HND-FUK? The last t
: Not enough. Signed, The Heathrow Expansion Support Group.
: HKG is also up there will 11. LAX has 10. ORD has 13.
: New York averages 25 flights per day from London Dubai - 15 Chicago - 13 Hong Kong - 11 Los Angeles, Washington - 9 Bombay, Toronto - 8 Singapore - 7
: Have you count with the new AF service?? People tends to miss it.
: I'll do that!!! 30x DJ 73G - 4680 seats 28x QF 763 - 7112 seats 7x QF 73H - 1176 seats 1x UA 744 - 347 seats 1x JQ 332 - 303 seats Total daily seats
: I did. But I forgot AA's second summer flight, so yea, it's 10 flights: BA 279 10:05-13:10 744 UA 935 10:35-13:48 777 AA 137 11:25-14:40 777 VS 007 1
: ? Post 1 details 39 on one day. No way the average is 25.
: Ugh! Something clearly wrong with me today! LHRJFK AA 115 08:30-11:00 777 LHRJFK DL 004 08:30-11:15 767 LHRJFK BA 117 08:55-11:20 744 LHREWR BA 185 0
: Someone should figure out the number of flights from London (LGW, LHR, STN, etc.) to the US on a daily basis, i'm sure it is in the 100's - 200's.
: Well a bit off-topic : And how many America-Europe flights daily ? Constantin