Firefly_cyhz From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 167 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
Not all airport codes start with Y. I believe that the Y in the airport codes means the airport has a METAR and a TAF. If someone were asking and there is a Y then it mean yes (Y) there is. I am not sure if that is all correct but that is what I was told.
The Ticketor From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 434 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1507 times:
It has nothing to do with METAR being available. He is talking about the IATA thre-letter codes, and yes, as far as I know all Canadian airports start with Y. I have no idea why, but I have thought about it too. Makes it easy to know where in the world the airport is ocated though...
The Ticketor From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 434 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
Not silly at all, my friend. I work in the business (airline employee) and I'm always interested in finding not only how things are, but also WHY, but this I don't know.
I don't know of any other country that has codes with a common first letter.
BostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 462 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
I wonder if a study has ever been made on whether having a non-mnemonic airport code increases the rate of mis-directed luggage? An airport code like BOS, SFO, or DFW is hard to make a mistake on, but codes that do not suggest the city the airport serves (such as YYZ, YUL, IAD, RSW, etc.) might cause a problem for the guy doing curbside baggage checking.
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1491 times:
It is a throw back from the rail road days....for some reason each city was designated a Y code...YVR Vancouver, YTO Toronto, YML Montreal.....when airports came around it was easier to just use the existing system rather then develop a new code for every city....
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NorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 39 Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1452 times:
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Ummm actually 3 letter Canadian codes can start with X Y or Z
Bathurst NB (ZBF) springs to mind as a Z designator, but Y is by far the most prevalent, and FYI, its not just airports that have designators, VORs have the same series.
for the 4 letter codes, all Canadian airports start with C
CYYZ, CYYC, CYVR, CZBF, and so on, just like all US airports are Kxxx designated. However there are certain requirements for an airport to receive a Cxxx code, all of which are satisfied anyways for the airport to be opened to commercial traffic, if the airport doesnt meet these requirements it gets a random alpha-numeric designator something like 00BV.
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Nicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
The Ticketor: I am sorry to contradict you, but you are wrong. Not all airports in Canada have a CY-- designator, it could be CZ-- or CX--
The Y as the second letter designate that a VOR is assossiated with the airport, it's in the A.I.P (Aeronautical Information Publication) just look in it. BTW CYUL is an airport and YUL is a VOR so be careful not to forget the C at the begining
Polaris From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1132 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1427 times:
In the early 1900s, in order to organize global radio communication, the International Telegraph Union (now the International Telecommunication Union) assigned radio communication prefixes to each country. These are called callsign blocks. (This is the same as each country being assigned its aircraft registration prefixes.)
Canada was assigned the blocks CF to CK, CY to CZ, VA to VG, VO, VX to VY, XJ to XO. Canada reserved CY to CZ for radio communication in transportation. Airport radio communication received their callsigns from this prefix block - therefore: CYYZ, CYUL, CYVR, CZBF, etc. Drop the C and you have the airport codes starting with Y or Z.
The Canadians on the site will recognize the CF to CK block as being reserved for commercial radio/TV - for example: CKOI, CFCF, CKVR, CITV, CHEZ, etc.
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 55 Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1408 times:
FLY 8: Yes things are a little harder in Europe. For some reason, Northern Europe is given E-designators, while Central and Southern Europe is given L-designators. Then, the second letter is to distinguish country. So Vienna, Austria is LOWW, the "O" is for Austria (Österreich). Amsterdam, the Netherlands is EHAM, H for Holland, and the AM now makes sense. Frankfurt, is EDDF, D for Deutschland, and I think Paris-de Gaulle is LFPG. Hope is explains a little.
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Gibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1405 times:
Addition to FLY 8 and LH423:
Yes, it does make sense! Also applies for Switzerland:
LSZH - Zurich (ZRH)
LSGG - Geneva (GVA)
S = Switzerland, duh!
Although ZH is related with the Canton abbreviation (like CA - California) GG does not stand for Geneva, it would have to be GE. But we all know the Swiss - have to make things even more complicated than they already are!
The Ticketor From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 434 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1370 times:
Sorry if I was unclear or if I misunderstood, but I was talking about IATA three-letter airportcodes, not anything else. Let's not confuse the four-letter codes and three-letter codes. YUL is most surely a IATA thre-letter code for Dorval AIRPORT. I don't think I'm right, I infact KNOW that I'm right. When you travel to Dorval and they put a YUL tag on your bag, do you think they've tagged it to a VOR?? I think not.
There might be other Canadian airports with IATA THRE-LETTER CODES that do not start with Y, but I haven't heard of any.
Nicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
The Ticketor: It depends from what perspective you see things. From a PAX perspective CYUL and YUL are both the airport, while for a pilot CYUL is the airport and YUL is the VOR, so which one are you talking about?