Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16155 times:
Not sure if it's the whole story, but supposedly the planes cargo capacity had something to do with it on their NY-Caribbean runs-hence why that's pretty much the only routes they operate on. (Although I did once, absolutely positively swear I saw one at LAX once. If only I could find the picture to prove it.)
I think that they also got a really good deal on them.
FedEx and UPS are only other carriers I know of that had them, though Continental, Eastern, Presidential, and Northeastern are all former operators.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16120 times:
One of the reasons that AA keeps a fleet of them - and you've probably noticed they're all on east coast/Caribbean routes - is that they are VOLUMINOUS cargo carriers.
Despite the multiple threads on this, and the number of times I have been told, I can't remember for sure...but I believe the name of the cargo pack is LD2. The 767 is slightly two narrow to pack two of them across, but the A300 can fit two of them side-by-side, completely filling the cargo hold.
Flights from the east coast (most specifically New York and Miami) to Caribbean locations filled with VFR - visiting friends and relative passengers - are loaded to the gills with goods that are simply not available on the islands. I can't imagine the weight difference on a Miami to Port-Au-Prince flight compared with the return flight...AA needs every cubic inch of space they can get on flights like that, and for the $$$$ value, the A300 provides it.
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FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 15958 times:
Quoting Gigneil (Reply 8): All new from Airbus, although the financing methods vary.
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):
I can't remember for sure...but I believe the name of the cargo pack is LD2.
The A300 can carry 2 LD3 side by side, just like a 777, 747, DC-10, or MD-11.
The 767 cannot.
That's true, but 767 does have its own cargo container type which can fit side by side. It's obviously, not nearly as ideal, but if, for some reason, it were necessary, a 767-300ER could fairly effectively step in for an A300 on an AA route (or vice-versa, in some instances, if the A300 range were to be far enough).
I dunno, they bought A300 and 767-300ER at the same time, and ultimately decided to build up their 767 fleet instead of their A300 fleet, they must have a reason.
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Wilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15883 times:
Quoting PillowTester (Reply 7): How old are they? Were they purchased new from Airbus? All at the same time, or over a period of time?
The AB6's were purchased brand spanking new from Airbus. The first of which were painted gray and later polished to match the rest of the fleet. They used to fly LAX-MIA at first, so I got to see quite a few before they were replaced with 763's, and 777's.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15283 times:
Quoting NA747 (Reply 12): We flew the A300 between MIA/ORD back then, too.
I think AA flew the A300 on ORD-MIA as late as 1994. I remember, because I picked up my girlfriend returning to ORD from her grandfather's funeral and was not only surprised to see an A300, but was even more surprised that the entire fuselage was painted gray.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32005 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 14982 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):
Well, I think it would be a huge shock, but I said the same thing about the USAF ordering Airbus and look what happened with that
It would be a shock, but it is entirely realistic.
If Airbus can offer a better package, and a better plane for AA's needs, AA will buy Airbus. These myths of "gentleman's agreements" are ridiculous and simply not true; any such agreement could potentially hurt AA's ability to bargain for new plane orders.