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AA And The A300  
User currently offlinePillowtester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16429 times:

What is the story on American Airlines' A300 fleet? Why or how did the acquire them? Why did they decide not to expand the fleet or add other Airbus types? How long will the remain in service?

Does any other American carrier currently operate the A300?


...said Dan jubilantly.
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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16441 times:

35-1 is a pretty big fleet, and there's just never been another airplane that offers the mix of cost and passenger and cargo density.

Its an amazing workhorse for those short-to-mid-hauls. They will stay in service until the 787-3 (or -8, as the case may be) arrives to replace them.

A 767 cannot do their job.

NS


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16435 times:

Not sure if it's the whole story, but supposedly the planes cargo capacity had something to do with it on their NY-Caribbean runs-hence why that's pretty much the only routes they operate on. (Although I did once, absolutely positively swear I saw one at LAX once. If only I could find the picture to prove it.)

I think that they also got a really good deal on them.

FedEx and UPS are only other carriers I know of that had them, though Continental, Eastern, Presidential, and Northeastern are all former operators.


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9149 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16391 times:



Quoting Pillowtester (Thread starter):
Does any other American carrier currently operate the A300?

Fedex and UPS operate 120 of them, Fedex also has 70 A310s.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16400 times:

One of the reasons that AA keeps a fleet of them - and you've probably noticed they're all on east coast/Caribbean routes - is that they are VOLUMINOUS cargo carriers.

Despite the multiple threads on this, and the number of times I have been told, I can't remember for sure...but I believe the name of the cargo pack is LD2. The 767 is slightly two narrow to pack two of them across, but the A300 can fit two of them side-by-side, completely filling the cargo hold.

Flights from the east coast (most specifically New York and Miami) to Caribbean locations filled with VFR - visiting friends and relative passengers - are loaded to the gills with goods that are simply not available on the islands. I can't imagine the weight difference on a Miami to Port-Au-Prince flight compared with the return flight...AA needs every cubic inch of space they can get on flights like that, and for the $$$$ value, the A300 provides it.



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Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16384 times:
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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33009 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16378 times:



Quoting Matt D (Reply 2):
the planes cargo capacity had something to do with it on their NY-Caribbean runs-hence why that's pretty much the only routes they operate on

No they don't. They operate mainly on high density Miami-Caribbean/Central America/South America flights. They are on many NY-Caribbean runs, but the majority operate on MIA services.



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User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16345 times:

How old are they? Were they purchased new from Airbus? All at the same time, or over a period of time?


...said Dan jubilantly.
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16333 times:

All new from Airbus, although the financing methods vary.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):
I can't remember for sure...but I believe the name of the cargo pack is LD2.

The A300 can carry 2 LD3 side by side, just like a 777, 747, DC-10, or MD-11.

The 767 cannot.

NS


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16238 times:



Quoting Gigneil (Reply 8):
All new from Airbus, although the financing methods vary.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):
I can't remember for sure...but I believe the name of the cargo pack is LD2.

The A300 can carry 2 LD3 side by side, just like a 777, 747, DC-10, or MD-11.

The 767 cannot.

That's true, but 767 does have its own cargo container type which can fit side by side. It's obviously, not nearly as ideal, but if, for some reason, it were necessary, a 767-300ER could fairly effectively step in for an A300 on an AA route (or vice-versa, in some instances, if the A300 range were to be far enough).

I dunno, they bought A300 and 767-300ER at the same time, and ultimately decided to build up their 767 fleet instead of their A300 fleet, they must have a reason.



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User currently offlineWilax From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 16163 times:



Quoting PillowTester (Reply 7):
How old are they? Were they purchased new from Airbus? All at the same time, or over a period of time?

The AB6's were purchased brand spanking new from Airbus. The first of which were painted gray and later polished to match the rest of the fleet. They used to fly LAX-MIA at first, so I got to see quite a few before they were replaced with 763's, and 777's.


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 737 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 16053 times:

I believe the leases expire in 2012 and that is when AA is to get rid of them.

User currently offlineNA747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 15742 times:



Quoting Matt D (Reply 2):
Although I did once, absolutely positively swear I saw one at LAX once. If only I could find the picture to prove it.)

Matt D, you're right. We did fly them in the early 90's between MIA/LAX. I used to often work the flights as a gate agent.
We flew the A300 between MIA/ORD back then, too.


User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15563 times:



Quoting NA747 (Reply 12):
We flew the A300 between MIA/ORD back then, too.

I think AA flew the A300 on ORD-MIA as late as 1994. I remember, because I picked up my girlfriend returning to ORD from her grandfather's funeral and was not only surprised to see an A300, but was even more surprised that the entire fuselage was painted gray.


User currently offlineGolftango From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15531 times:

AA also used the A300 for the BDL -> SJU -> BDL run.

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15422 times:



Quoting Matt D (Reply 2):
Continental, Eastern, Presidential, and Northeastern are all former operators.

Don´t forget Pan Am and Carnival.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 11):
I believe the leases expire in 2012 and that is when AA is to get rid of them.

If they get a replacement by that time.

What was the reason why AA never replaced them with A330s ? I know Airbus tried to sell them A333s a while ago ?
Too heavy ?



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User currently offlineA318 From Bahamas, joined Jan 2008, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15408 times:

I've been seeing an AA A300 almost everyday now at FLL... anyone know the deal with that?


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15391 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 15):
What was the reason why AA never replaced them with A330s ? I know Airbus tried to sell them A333s a while ago ?
Too heavy ?

I very highly doubt that we'll ever see another Airbus in the AA fleet.



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User currently offlineJimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15389 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 15):
What was the reason why AA never replaced them with A330s ? I know Airbus tried to sell them A333s a while ago ?
Too heavy ?

a.) Doesn't the "gentlemen's" agreement between AA and Boeing stand (where AA only buys Boeing?)

b.) I seem to remember hearing that AA was a little burned by fingerpointing from Airbus after AA 597.

But things do change, so it's possible. However, I've always wondered, why not replace the A300s with 772s?


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15385 times:



Quoting Jimbobjoe (Reply 18):
why not replace the A300s with 772s?

Far too big.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15358 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 17):
I very highly doubt that we'll ever see another Airbus in the AA fleet.

Never say never.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15356 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 20):
Never say never.

Nope, AA and DL you can be 99.99% certain that they won't order Airbus



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33009 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15297 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 21):
Quoting Columba (Reply 20):
Never say never.

Nope, AA and DL you can be 99.99% certain that they won't order Airbus

Not at all. I would not be shocked if AA ordered Airbus A330/350s as an A300 replacement. They aren't going to go for the 787 by default.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15284 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
Not at all. I would not be shocked if AA ordered Airbus A330/350s as an A300 replacement. They aren't going to go for the 787 by default.

Well, I think it would be a huge shock, but I said the same thing about the USAF ordering Airbus and look what happened with that



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33009 posts, RR: 71
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15262 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 23):

Well, I think it would be a huge shock, but I said the same thing about the USAF ordering Airbus and look what happened with that

It would be a shock, but it is entirely realistic.

If Airbus can offer a better package, and a better plane for AA's needs, AA will buy Airbus. These myths of "gentleman's agreements" are ridiculous and simply not true; any such agreement could potentially hurt AA's ability to bargain for new plane orders.



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25 RJ111 : Aviation is never certain.
26 QantasHeavy : I thought Airbus made AA a super sweet deal on them. Eastern basically got the A300 for a steal. Given the financial situations of the airlines, I wou
27 Jetblueguy22 : I thought they just ran the 757 on that route. Blue
28 Columba : Okay AA has a preference for Boeing and the differences after flight 597 did not help to strengthen the relationship between Airbus and American Airl
29 Trintocan : If I remember correctly the reason AA bought the A300s was that they had a disagreement with Boeing at that time over the 767s (circa 1987) and they e
30 Ferroviarius : Good afternoon. Just for the record, AA also used their A300s on JFK-LHR. I had been on one of these flights (but, again, this was years ago) and all
31 Post contains links and images LuiePL : Nope, I remember the A300. They used to have a 752 in the morning and 738 in the afternoon but switch to 1 A300 per day. That was 2-3 years ago and t
32 NA747 : An A300 was assigned to do the FLL/PAP run (in the a.m.) and FLL/SJU run (in the p.m.). This started with the 14DEC07 sked chg. On a side note, this
33 Ludavid777 : Would someone care to explain what LD2 / LD3 mean? I imagine those big aluminum containers they put cargo in?
34 Post contains links and images Dvincent : For many years it used to be A300s with seasonal 757 service (fall). Last April the A300 was axed from BDL entirely. Hasn't been back since, has been
35 Columbia107 : AA have also used them in the past on theJFK/ Bermuda run. I recall having seen them at Bermuda some 4 years ago. In those days, half a dozen times ea
36 QQflyboy : You got it. The LD2 and LD3 names differentiate their size. And FYI for everyone else, the miff between AA and Airbus is over flight 587 JFK-SDQ Nov.
37 Albird87 : The main reason why AA hasnt replaced the A300 is actually that there isnt another aircraft that can do what AAs A300s do! There are aircraft around
38 AAL0616 : And ORY before the forced switch to CDG, as well as BOS-LHR/ORY. Yes, there were some operational issues. The deployment of the 306s on these specifi
39 Jfk777 : Thank GoD, AA is its last years if using the A300. The ScAArebus has been a nightmare as it gets older. AA better place the huge 787 order with 787-3
40 ConcordeBoy : I would. Not due to OEM, but mostly due to weight/cycles, particularly in the case of the A330. 587
41 Columba : Many airlines have replaced their A300/A310s with A330s with very few exceptions AA and LH being the only ones.
42 DiscoverCSG : Put CO and WN in that pile, as well. Now, AA uses 762's on some JFK-BDA flights. On the current timetable, I think it's the morning JFK-BDA flight th
43 Xtoler : Are there no more AA A300's in BOS anymore. Seems like I used to see at least one quite a bit when I did the RIC-BOS for TransStates. That was only a
44 DeltaL1011man : don't forget CO its not a myth......Its there BUT AA doesn't have to buy boeing. At one time AA,DL,CO all signed a contract to by Boeing. After MD an
45 Albird87 : Still a lot longer aircraft than the A300 the 772A. Shorter wings were on the cards for the 772A! Not as in they were going to use shorter wings but
46 Dvincent : BOS has no A300 service anymore. SJU is served by 757s.[Edited 2008-04-07 10:35:59]
47 ConcordeBoy : ...you basically just invalidated your own statement. One of the big reasons that hasn't happened is because the A330 is far too heavy to constitute
48 MAH4546 : No, they will not. AA can order from Airbus, and they'll still get awesome deals from Boeing. Do you think Boeing is going to suddenly sour on such a
49 YULYMX : How about some A310? similar belly?
50 YULWinterSkies : So can the 787, but it is not airborne yet... Why replace them at half their life-time or even less? Some of their 767s at a lot older, yet they are
51 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : I spent a weekend travelling on them...they are so great from a size standpoint, mechanically they are not reliable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
52 Post contains links and images MSYtristar : Show some love for the AA A300's...they are workhorses, and they serve their niche well.
53 RwSEA : I agree. I also would like to remind everyone that these "gentlemens agreements" were signed in the 1990s when the airlines were all literally printi
54 BA747 : AA902 and AA903 flights which are on the A300 CCS/MIA and MIA/CCS respectively are always late due to problems with the aircraft. The planes are too o
55 N62NA : And EWR-LHR too - and MIA-EWR also. How true... I was on an A300 JFK-MIA last week... first problem was the fire alarm was stuck on for about 10 minu
56 Viscount724 : AA A300 deliveries: 1988 - 13 1989 - 12 1991 - 5 1992 - 4 1993 - 1 Total - 35
57 AirJamaica : Flew the A300 from MIA to MCO after changing planes in MIA from KIN. Old birds but the ride was comfortable. They used to fly the JFK/KIN route for y
58 TrijetsRMissed : I hate to break it to everyone who thinks AA will buy A330's or A350's but it is not going to happen. AA will go through Boeing exclusively for mainli
59 AA767400 : 34 with one lost as 587.
60 CrAAzy : As previously mentioned according to AA's 2007 Annual report, AA has a total 34 A300s. Average aircraft age is 18 years. AA owns 10 of the aircraft an
61 Columba : This seems to be an AA problem all other airlines that use them find them pretty reliable But the routes LH uses the A300 are shorter than the routes
62 BlueSky1976 : It's not too big. It's too heavy for the particular mission A300s are flying. Now 787-8 on the other hand - that's a different story. AA will eventua
63 Columba : Are there any delivery slots left for AA ?
64 BlueSky1976 : I wouldn't be surprised at all if Boeing had 10 - 15 slots reserved for the initial A300 replacement batch. Remember BA 787 order?
65 DCAjet : Thank you - The much talked about A300-600 reliability issues are a reflection of AA's mx or its ops. Lufthansa (although a smaller fleet at 14 units
66 DCAjet : Thank you - The much talked about A300-600 reliability issues are a reflection of either AA's mx or its ops. Lufthansa, for one, (although a smaller
67 Jfk777 : Lufthansa did buy A330-300 for meduim haul international routes. They use them widely to the USA east coast and the midwest. Lufthnsa did finally fin
68 Mortyman : Yes, I remember flying AA A300 " Luxury Liner " already back in 1990. From NewYork to San Juan and from San Juan to Miami. Cool
69 PillowTester : Technically the A300-600 is an A300B4... the A300B4-600.
70 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : I just read AA will not be getting rid of their last MD80's until 2020!!!!!!!!!!! Never mind the Scarebus...2020 and MD80 out there...wow
71 Columba : Despite the A330-300 the A300 still plays an important part for LH´s and will not be replaced anytime soon. LH did replace their A310-300s with A330
72 Milesrich : Senator John McCain (R-AZ) is not on the board of American, and can't call anyone in Ft. Worth in purchasing to put a little friendly pressure on the
73 Golftango : When did the A300 serve SXM? I've seen photos of the bus over Maho before.
74 PlaneHunter : Not necessarily - it would be interesting to know some details how JAL's 763s perform compared to the A300s. PH
75 Viscount724 : And further than that including the west coast. LH uses the A330-300 FRA-SEA and starting next month FRA-YYC.
76 ConcordeBoy : Doesn't matter relatively... both are still well beneath the A-market, for the most part. Says whom? Add DL. Add WN.
77 Gigneil : The A300-600R can carry more passengers and cargo and should do so at much lower cost. The question is - is that capacity needed? NS
78 TrijetsRMissed : I don't buy your theory. AA has relied on one manufacturer for the last 15 years, and will continue to. Yes many operators have operated the A330 alo
79 AAL0616 : Well, do not take this in the wrong spirit, however: Although a very longstanding pro-Boeing user and supporter, I must remind our fellow readers tha
80 PlaneHunter : The cargo capacity is definitely not needed on the domestic hops. PH
81 Teme82 : Add 6 months new delays to that and possible more delays ...
82 ArniePie : Not that I doubt your statement but doesn't AA have to cancel a lot of flights lately (MD80) because of problems with maintenance, more specifically
83 Columba : Although they have ordered only new Boeings they fleet consists of MDs and Airbusses. I know you will say MDs are Boeings now but they were not when
84 AJMIA : Amen to that. It makes me crazy. I don't see AA letting the A300 go without a new aircraft (787) for at least a 1/1 replacement. There are many 757 r
85 Columba : Yes I believe that, too most likely it will be the MD 80 that will be reduced.
86 AAL0616 : This is very true. As has happened before, if aircraft are withdrawn from service in the near-term because of the economy they will be MD-80s (althou
87 Cubsrule : How many domestic routes do they fly? I can only think of two (MIA-MCO and MIA-JFK). It was more of a paperwork problem than an actual problem with m
88 Gigneil : But what about the passenger capacity? We're talking about JAL, sorta as a corollary. We'll get back on topic. NS
89 Cubsrule : Thanks; reading the whole thread would have helped.
90 Post contains links and images SXDFC : Again Never say never! Just imagine these three at DFW or JFK!
91 TrijetsRMissed : Just postponing the inevitable. That is a proactive measure to abide by a new AD. In 25+ years of service, the wiring has never been an issue with th
92 ConcordeBoy : ...that apparently are unaware of the world's 3rd and 4th largest airline, as well as America's busiest domestic carrier. How sharp of them. All of w
93 Columba : Well, they do make more money than AA seems to me they are doing something right ( I am mainly speaking of AF-KLM, SQ and LH as they said a couple of
94 Post contains links Zeke : "Although Delta is talking to Airbus about the A350, we don’t expect Delta to deviate from its long history of ordering Boeing exclusively." from h
95 BrianDromey : Just like the USAF would never order the 330 based tanker. Dude, welcome to the real world, ANYTHING is possible. Never say never, you might get your
96 Columba : It is interesting how you define a "long history" these days. DL was founded in 1924 and operated Boeings, Convairs, Lockheeds, Douglas etc... In 199
97 757ops : I remember them it stopped pretty much after to AA A306 crased in Queens and they used to operate EWR-LHR too with A300 back then
98 Cubsrule : 752s rotate throughout the system, so it's impossible to break down the dispatch reliability that way.
99 WorldTraveler : You probably didn’t REALLY want me to get involved in this thead… which I hadn’t even bothered to read until you asked me to do so. Yes, DL has
100 ConcordeBoy : Ah yes, two groups who've experienced Dereg-IV for a grand total of 11 days; and one with such governance that it can essentially fire chicks for sho
101 Hush-Kit : Just want to keep in mind that AA flew those A300 in the 90'ties over the big pond, as far as I can recall it was from NYC, BOS to some destinations i
102 Viscount724 : LH also used their A300-600s for while on transatlantic routes soon after they were delivered. I recall them operating FRA-YUL and FRA-PHL and possib
103 Zeke : Not really, read it again. The commentary from Scott does not indicated they were not "very interested" in the A350, all it says is they were talking
104 ConcordeBoy : ...you gotta be joking with this. Basically conceding defeat, blaming such on "history" (as if that, in and of itself, worth a bucket o' snot) and so
105 UltimateDelta : The cargo containers are actually LD3s. The LD2s were developed for the 767 because the LD3 was too big for it.
106 N1120A : WAY too heavy in the case of both the A333 and A332. Further, QF's experience has shown the limitations of the A330 on short haul, quick turn flights
107 Zeke : The difference between the 777 and the A350 I think is like the 737-300/400 was to the A320. The A320 outclassed that frame, and becuase of "history"
108 N1120A : Within their range band, the 737 Classic are more efficient.
109 TrijetsRMissed : That's completely irrelevant, it's all about competition. An airline like LH is basically a shoe-in to make a profit and at the very least not suffer
110 Ckfred : AA has a 20-year contract with Boeing to replace the fleet that existed in 1997. I think Boeing has taken delivery of around 225 aircraft, so AA has
111 ConcordeBoy : What manner of inane parallel are you attempting to draw with this? DL barely had anything to do with all three of them. Heck, they only ever ordered
112 Cubsrule : I see wingletted 752s in STL at least once a day; sometimes as many as 25% of our 20 or so 752 flights have winglets.
113 MSYtristar : Agree 100%. But as with numerous other posts, you have to realize that one poster on here is pretty much blinded by all things Airbus...and Boeing ju
114 Zeke : What is the logic then for the 30+ operators who dumped them for A320s ? Looks like DL will now be operating both the A320 and A330. Something must h
115 N1120A : 30+? That ordered them new? That actually removed them from the fleet (that gets rid of a lot, including Lufthansa and United)? Oh, and did you see t
116 Zeke : Thinking of the following .... Aegean Airlines, Aer Lingus, Aeroflot, Air Berlin, Air Caledonie, Air France, Air Malta, Air New Zealand, Air One, Air
117 MoMan : AA will almost certainly be renewing the leases on the 6 aircraft this and next year, if only for an additional 5 years. They do not have the capacit
118 Cubsrule : AA has pretty steadfastly stuck to the policy of keeping certain types out of certain stations, which I suspect means we won't be seeing the A300 at
119 TrijetsRMissed : How do you figure? I'd love to see the A300 back at ORD but highly doubt this will ever happen.
120 N1120A : Um, Boeing created a product with superior range, and that scaled larger to replace it.
121 MoMan : As fuel prices rise and AA loses more money, they will have to look at their rationalization plans to keep aircraft in certain cities only to reduce
122 Cubsrule : If they fill the seats and do so profitably (an assumption on my part, but it's probably a reasonable assumption based on the number of connections f
123 TrijetsRMissed : Well, AA did that for several years in the '90s so anything is possible. I still think it is doubtful, but probably more likely then the 738 returnin
124 SKORD : Hi. Im booked to travel on an AA A-300 in Oct from SJU-MIA. Can anyone tell me the condition of the Cabin on these a/c? The only Cabin shots i can fin
125 Flighty : Are we forgetting that DL is about to become one of the largest Airbus operators in the world, with the NW fleet? Are we forgetting that AA might as w
126 N62NA : I've flown on AA A300s quite a bit and the cabins range from "OK" condition to very good condition. Just depends on which plane you actually get that
127 SKORD : Oh i hope not! Got a 50min connection in MIA onto TPA. I have booked us 10AB as according to Seatguru, these offer the best window views in the whole
128 United_Fan : Just listening to JFK tower,and AAL896 from PAP just lost nose-gear steering after landing....those A300's have so many issues ...
129 MasseyBrown : Confirming crAAzy's data, AA said, during their earnings conference call, that the leases on three A300's will expire in 2008 and that the aircraft wi
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