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Why Is LGA Dangerous To Land At?  
User currently offline777kicksass From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 668 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

Is it because of the runways crossing over each other (doesn't that make frisco dangerous too??) or the Hudson River??

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User currently offline777kicksass From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Also, what about DCA???

User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

The runways there are fairly short for the size of aircraft there, and Flushing Bay is right at the end of the runways.

User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

Takeoff from DCA is fun! They pull up really fast and go up at such an angle! Then the turn. I consider it very entertaining.


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User currently offlineMit From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4025 times:

Calling LGA "dangerous" is something of a stretch. In the last 20 years, there have been two fatal accidents (killing 29 people) that could be partially attributed to the location/configuration of the airport.

It's certainly an operational challenge, but the airlines and controllers seem to be doing an excellent job.


User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

As far as I am aware there has only been 1 fatal accident at DCA since 1950, and that was the Palm 90 accident during a snow storm in 1981(or 1982, I can't remember). Anyway that accident was the fault of the crew, not the airport. The Miami based pilots, not used to being around much snow, never turned on the de-icing equipment. The 737 hit a bridge and went into the Potomac.

I've had a few takeoffs and landings where I wasn't certain I'd be staying dry. But somehow the plane always gets where it supposed to be.






Flying Colors Forever!
User currently offlineDL3744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

I think its fun to land at LGA!!! where is DCA???

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Laguardia is not dangerous,crowded yes but not dangerous.

And one quick correction for those unfimiliar with the NYC area,the Hudson river sepearates NJ and NY its about 15 miles to the West of Laguardia.

The water surrounding LGA is Flushing bay where the East river (separating Manhattan from Brooklyn and Queens) and the Harlem river (seperating Manahttan from the Bronx) converge to meet Long Island Sound (which seperates Long Island from Connecticut and Rhode Island).



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User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1376 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3969 times:

Flying over the red brick bldgs of Northern Queens, I always considered LGA New York's own little Kai Tak.

I guess it's Flushing bay, short runways, no overrun zones, the Grand Central Pkway right there and what with the city heat island effect and the water, some funky winds.

But what fun to fly into and out of (at least as a passenger)
I went to high school in Flushing and the teacher had to stop lecturing every few minutes when the jets were taking off over Flushing.



I may be ugly. I may be an American. But don't call me an ugly American.
User currently offlineBigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

I've been to LGA 3 times and everytime I've been, it's always been an adventure. I've always landed on 4 or 22, and always taken off on 13 and 31. I think approaching 4 is so much fun because you come sooo low over the "bricks" of northern Queens. Landing on 22 is bananas, also. It's very much like SFO, with the seemingly "controlled decent into H20." Taking off on 31 is just a beautiful thing whichever side you are on because you either have a perfect view of the world's most dynamic city, or one with a view of the entire Long Island Sound with Westchester County, CT and RI off in the distance, and if you swing around back towards the East, LGA pops into view at about your 3 o'clock. Departing on 13 is slick because you make an immediate left turn - i'd say no higher than 800' - to the East for noise abatement (over the ghetto???) and then continue on course to wherever. So even if it's "dangerous," it's something worth experiencing. Big thumbs up

User currently offlineDEN-HNL From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3941 times:

I don't know about LGA being "dangerous" but I remember my first time landing there very vividly. Those apartment building rooftops of Queens getting closer and closer!  Big thumbs up It can get your heart racing.


John Hancock
User currently offlineBigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3937 times:

I've been to LGA 3 times and everytime I've been, it's always been an adventure. I've always landed on 4 or 22, and always taken off on 13 and 31. I think approaching 4 is so much fun because you come sooo low over the "bricks" of northern Queens. Landing on 22 is bananas, also. It's very much like SFO, with the seemingly "controlled decent into H20." Taking off on 31 is just a beautiful thing whichever side you are on because you either have a perfect view of the world's most dynamic city, or one with a view of the entire Long Island Sound with Westchester County, CT and RI off in the distance, and if you swing around back towards the East, LGA pops into view at about your 3 o'clock. Departing on 13 is slick because you make an immediate left turn - i'd say no higher than 800' - to the East for noise abatement (over the ghetto???) and then continue on course to wherever. So even if it's "dangerous," it's something worth experiencing. Big thumbs up

User currently offlineBigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

I've been to LGA 3 times and everytime I've been, it's always been an adventure. I've always landed on 4 or 22, and always taken off on 13 and 31. I think approaching 4 is so much fun because you come sooo low over the "bricks" of northern Queens. Landing on 22 is bananas, also. It's very much like SFO, with the seemingly "controlled decent into H20." Taking off on 31 is just a beautiful thing whichever side you are on because you either have a perfect view of the world's most dynamic city, or one with a view of the entire Long Island Sound with Westchester County, CT and RI off in the distance, and if you swing around back towards the East, LGA pops into view at about your 3 o'clock. Departing on 13 is slick because you make an immediate left turn - i'd say no higher than 800' - to the East for noise abatement (over the ghetto???) and then continue on course to wherever. So even if it's "dangerous," it's something worth experiencing. Big thumbs up

User currently offlineFrank Lorenzo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

Water/Small Runway

-Frank Lorenzo


User currently offlineBigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

I've been to LGA 3 times and everytime I've been, it's always been an adventure. I've always landed on 4 or 22, and always taken off on 13 and 31. I think approaching 4 is so much fun because you come sooo low over the "bricks" of northern Queens. Landing on 22 is bananas, also. It's very much like SFO, with the seemingly "controlled decent into H20." Taking off on 31 is just a beautiful thing whichever side you are on because you either have a perfect view of the world's most dynamic city, or one with a view of the entire Long Island Sound with Westchester County, CT and RI off in the distance, and if you swing around back towards the East, LGA pops into view at about your 3 o'clock. Departing on 13 is slick because you make an immediate left turn - i'd say no higher than 800' - to the East for noise abatement (over the ghetto???) and then continue on course to wherever. So even if it's "dangerous," it's something worth experiencing. Big thumbs up

User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

DCA is dangerous according to pilots who work with TWA, US Airways, DL Shuttle, and CO as wellas ex EAL pilots say that DCA is an accident waiting to happen because on the way to land and take off there is alot of restricted airspace for pilots to avoid. Bare in mind that the White House, Capital and other government buildings are near by and within viewing distance so the pilot has to navigate the plane in a certain angle in order to avoid the restricted spaces and if a plane does go into these spaces and gov finds out the type of plane and airline then that airlines faces millions of dollars in fines. Landing at DCA and LGA may be fun for aviation buffs but pilots now best and trust them. I ain't no fun at all. LGA is also dangerous due to the Parkway being too close, Runways too short as also saind by CO, DL, US, TW, AC, and ex EAL pilots that have taken off and landed there. Let's not forget flushing Bay is on the other end and that landing and taking off during a Snowstorm is even more challenging to the pilots.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineSdate747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

Cause Rikers Island is right next door!  Smile  Big grin

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