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User currently offlineN471WN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1537 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11971 times:
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UAL and FedEx have just announced that they are donating a DC-10-30 freighter to ORBIS International (the flying eye clinic) to replace the older DC-10-10 which had replaced the first donated a/c which was a DC-8. Congrats to both carriers for this wonderful gift.

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9032 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11959 times:
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Quoting N471WN (Thread starter):

I am happy to hear that! That's terrific!!
Thanks UAL and FedEx!

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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11892 times:

Question is UAL on this deal because it was United's Airplane to begin with?


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User currently offlineN471WN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1537 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11823 times:
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yes it was a UAL a/c

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11746 times:

Hmm,a freighter should work for Orbis. Though they do carry pax,they won't have any windows. I know Orbis' DC-10 is the oldest DC-10 out there , #2 off the line.


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User currently offlineFlyingClrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11744 times:

I suppose this plane will undergo a D check as part of the conversion process?

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11719 times:

Hmmmm, I didn't know that UA still "owned" a DC-10. Where is it currently?


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User currently offlineN471WN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1537 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11687 times:
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I think it is parked in Goodyear---saw it there last week but this may not be the one but my guess is that it is

User currently offlineSpdBrdConcorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11139 times:

I think the pilots are retired UAL DC 10 crews and Fedex provides the MX work +technicians as well as helps with any shipping needs...

User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11081 times:
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Orbis former DC10-10 was the 2nd one every built, N220AU. My comail mentioned UA bird, N1853U as the new Orbis a/c. FX pilots will fly it for Orbis on a volunteer basis and our MX will donate time to service it. The 3rd generation a/c is a DC-10-30.


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User currently offlineIFlyTWA From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11075 times:

Is it this DC-10?


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Edit: Never mind. I just saw FXramper post that it will be N1853U.


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User currently offlineRavel From Finland, joined Feb 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10799 times:



Quoting IFlyTWA (Reply 10):
Never mind. I just saw FXramper post that it will be N1853U.

Wouldn't a DC-10-30ER have suited them better, or does it matter in ORBIS' operations?


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10706 times:



Quoting Ravel (Reply 11):
Wouldn't a DC-10-30ER have suited them better, or does it matter in ORBIS' operations?

I think the aircraft that is used now is just a Dc 10-10 so I don´t think it really matters.
Is the aircraft lighter then a regular passenger Dc 10 or is the weight the same with all the hospital equipment installed ?



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10548 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 12):
Is the aircraft lighter then a regular passenger Dc 10 or is the weight the same with all the hospital equipment installed ?

I remember reading that it weighs alot more with the stregnthened floor to keep it from 'bouncing' when people wallk on it. It also has less range due to its jigher weight.



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User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6907 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10473 times:

Who owns the plane now? If it is UA, I presume that FX is paying them half its value? Or is their part the Mx support?


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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9497 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 9):
My comail mentioned

I didn't get a co-mail article.

Stupid ops...  Wink



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4106 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9185 times:

Wasn't the original DC-8 also donated from UA? Good to still see some charity in this industry.

I imagine FX was going to buy it, hence why they are also donating?


User currently offlineTjcab From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8184 times:

very nice gesture. Also a nice tax benefit? or is the aircraft completely depreciated?

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8093 times:



Quoting Tjcab (Reply 17):
Also a nice tax benefit? or is the aircraft completely depreciated?

I'm sure the answer is yes on both accounts. There isn't alot of interest in over 25-year old DC-10's,anymore.I'm sure it will cost a small fortune to transfer the eye equipment over.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7907 times:
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 16):
Wasn't the original DC-8 also donated from UA? Good to still see some charity in this industry.

Yes, it was a DC8-21.

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It's now in China, and in a pretty sad state. It was the 4th aircraft produced and the 2nd one delivered to UA. It was retired in December of 1976. ProjectOrbis acquired it from UA in 1982 by donation.



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User currently offlineTockeyhockey From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7655 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 4):
Hmm,a freighter should work for Orbis. Though they do carry pax,they won't have any windows. I know Orbis' DC-10 is the oldest DC-10 out there , #2 off the line.

not to be crass, but the lack of windows really won't matter to the majority of people using the service.


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6907 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7532 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 4):
I know Orbis' DC-10 is the oldest DC-10 out there , #2 off the line.

Just out of curiosity, what became of #1?



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User currently offlineLearjet23 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7150 times:

Remember the former PSA L-1011 that some church was using as a prop to pull in the "love gifts" I think TBN had it, then Operation Blessing, then who knws... It was a flying hospital that only went out for three months then went broke.... What ever happened to that, my grandmother sent a large check to help outfit that plane.

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6680 times:



Quoting SEPilot (Reply 21):
Just out of curiosity, what became of #1?

AFAIK,it was an AA bird and was scrapped....

Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 20):
not to be crass, but the lack of windows really won't matter to the majority of people using the service.

Except for the Dr's and nurses that fly along.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6285 times:



Quoting Learjet23 (Reply 22):
Remember the former PSA L-1011 that some church was using as a prop to pull in the "love gifts" I think TBN had it, then Operation Blessing, then who knws... It was a flying hospital that only went out for three months then went broke.... What ever happened to that, my grandmother sent a large check to help outfit that plane.

The last I heard it was still stored in Tucson:

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25 Douglasdc10 : My question as a DC-10 fan is: What will happen with #2 now? I hope that it finds a new home in a good museum. #1 was among the DC-10s which were acqu
26 SEPilot : Thanks for the info.
27 Captoveur : I am thinking beer cans.
28 FXramper : You corporate sales guys don't get the good stuff in comail, Ryan. We both know this.
29 UAL727NE : Yep I used to see it and drive a tug by it everyday. I wish I could have it. It makes me sad seeing it just sit everyday.
30 OceansWorld : When a pax aircraft is converted to freighter, do they remove the windows or are they simply covered ? In the later case, can't they simply remove th
31 United1 : The windows are removed and plugged generaly (they are on this aircraft), they can remove the plugs reinstall the windows as far as I know however.
32 Post contains links OceansWorld : Thanks for the quick reply. On the actual Orbis aircraft most windows were kept, so I wonder whether they'll reinstall some for the recovery room of
33 Ned Kelly : The covered windows can still be seen on this aircraft, so I don't think it will be too difficult to use them again. I don't know if the windows are a
34 Rwessel : Well, for one thing there aren't that many -30ERs, so that may have been an issue. And it's not like this aircraft will get that many flight hours. T
35 United_Fan : This has been discussed before,the alum is differant..
36 CosmicCruiser : It's my understanding that it's always been Fedex pilots in the DC-10. I was speaking to an Orbis nurse last month in the Philippines, the jet was on
37 OceansWorld : That's probably why they need a DC-10-30, which will help take off out of shorter fields as well as range. A series 30 still offer at least an additi
38 DocLightning : Yeah. Nobody would ever dream of performing an ophthalmologic procedure on a flying plane. Too dangerous. It is not a true hospital. It's more like a
39 CosmicCruiser : From what this fellow told me the main mission is to teach other doctors in these remote locations how to perform the work and not just to do the wor
40 DocLightning : Yeah, they do outreach and physician education. It's a major teaching operation. Med students rarely get to go, but if you get the chance, you jump a
41 Mcdu : What UAL is doing goodwill? With all the posters that seem to wish them to go away you would think the company was a pariah. Kudos to UAL and FedEx. G
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