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SQ Load Improvement To IAH?  
User currently offlineSlovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7692 times:

I'm just wondering if loads have improved on the SIN-DME-IAH route. They were less than impressive the first few flights so just seeing if I can get an update.

Thanks

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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7667 times:

It is inappropriate for loads on a Singapore Airlines route to be divulged on a public forum as it is commercially sensitive.

However, to go some way to answering your question, the loads do please me, especially the mix and are a far cry from the Greek Tragedy-esque expressions that first manifested on this forum and others after the first flight!

There was a small article in Singapore's Business Times which I shall quote an excerpt of here which should assist you:




Stronger demand for SIA's first, business class seats to Houston
240 words
4 April 2008
Business Times Singapore
English
(c) 2008 Singapore Press Holdings Limited

SINGAPORE Airlines (SIA) is seeing stronger demand for its business and first-class seats than for economy on its newly launched Singapore-Houston route - but the airline hopes to counter this by selling Houston as an attractive tourist spot for leisure travellers.

'Houston is not a hot tourist point even for Singaporeans who travel a lot,' said Xavier Lim, divisional vice-president of marketing for SIA, adding that the airline aims to educate those in the travel trade as well as raise awareness among leisure travellers with regard to the city as a holiday destination.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7646 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):
but the airline hopes to counter this by selling Houston as an attractive tourist spot for leisure travellers.

Houston as an attractive tourist spot??? For whom? Guantanamo inmates?  Silly



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7633 times:

Well there are things such as the Kennedy Space Centre and the Admiral Nimitz Museum amongst others.

MyTravelGalaxy has a good list of stuff to do.

Also, there are apparently a bunch of treasures to discover.




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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7623 times:

Singapore_Air,

On Saturday night, I believe, did SQ substitute a B772 on the flight? The FAA site was showing the flight plan tag as a 772, just wondering...

JSD



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7584 times:



Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 4):
On Saturday night, I believe, did SQ substitute a B772 on the flight?

No, I believe customers continued to experience the Romance of Travel on board 9V-SWA, a Boeing 777-300ER  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineSSRJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7571 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):
It is inappropriate for loads on a Singapore Airlines route to be divulged on a public forum as it is commercially sensitive.

Wow! That sounds like a statement that could be generated by a police state organ!
If we didn't discuss loads, we'd be chopping off a lot of the conversations spun on a-net!
(No hard feelings. Have a nice day)  Smile



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User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7570 times:

Having visited Houston with my gf for a short break last month I'd like to say we found it a great place to visit.

Over three days we visited the rodeo (where international visitors have free hospitality), NASA, The Sam Houston Racetrack, a few of the museums, the Galleria shopping mall, downtown Aquarium, Hard Rock cafe not to mention plenty of bars.

We found there was lots to see and do in Houston and will hopefully return some day.

Cheers

David


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7571 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 3):
Well there are things such as the Kennedy Space Centre and the Admiral Nimitz Museum amongst others.

There is nothing in this dump worth flying 25 hours to visit. If you're flying that far you're better off going to Florida, where the Space Center is the real thing, the beaches are nice, and you can visit the rat in Orlando.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7568 times:



Quoting SSRJ (Reply 6):
No hard feelings

hehe. None taken. Human curiosity is something that should be celebrated and if it's on an internet forum, why not.



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User currently offlineCMB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 414 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7404 times:

Despite popular (or ignorant) belief, Houston is a great place to visit. So many interesting things to do and see, the people are awesome, food is some of the best around, weather permits the outdoor activites that abound throughout the entire area from beaches to sailing to hiking through the thick pine forests.

It's not New York, but it's a pretty great city in its own right. If you're not the kind of funky, explorative, open-minded person that Houston embraces, then you will probably not enjoy yourself here. And if this explanation doesn't sound like the people of Houston or the city of Houston itself, then you are in for a pretty big surprise.

Oh yeah, you'll experience these things ONLY if you leave the offices and surrounding hotels of the MANY Fortune 500 companies based in the area.  Wink


User currently offlineCMB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 414 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7384 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):
If you're flying that far you're better off going to Florida, where the Space Center is the real thing, the beaches are nice, and you can visit the rat in Orlando.

Seriously, you're comparing apples to oranges. Two completely different places. Singapore Airlines is not advertising a route to Florida, they are advertising a route to Houston. Why would Singapore say "Please fly us to Houston, but once there you're better off connecting to a Continental flight to ANYWHERE in Florida".

Get real. Someone or something in Houston must have really done you wrong.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7383 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):
you're better off going to Florida, where the Space Center is the real thing,

Your serious?



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7342 times:



Quoting CMB320 (Reply 11):
Two completely different places. Singapore Airlines is not advertising a route to Florida, they are advertising a route to Houston

No sh!t Dick Tracy. One has a leisure market, one doesn't.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 12):
Your serious?

Both are "the real thing" I suppose, but one has shuttle launches.

Quoting CMB320 (Reply 11):
Get real. Someone or something in Houston must have really done you wrong.

Please, tell me all about the leisure market to Houston.



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3675 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7295 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8):
There is nothing in this dump worth flying 25 hours to visit.

 rotfl  Houstonians and people who have previously lived here have this great love-hate relationship with the city, me included.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
Please, tell me all about the leisure market to Houston.

The only thing I can think of are the influx of international visitors at the Houston Galleria, as well as Katy Mills and the new Houston Premium Outlets out on 290. Shopping is big and hear people talk about deals they get here than anywhere else. Other stuff ... the Museum District, the Theater District, Midtown, the new Discovery Green ... it takes a while and patience to find these places, but there are hidden gems in this insane city that would mean for many a drive into the city!  goodvibes 

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 3):
Kennedy Space Centre

KSC is in Florida. Houston/Clear Lake is home to the Johnson Space Center.

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):
Stronger demand for SIA's first, business class seats to Houston

Back to the topic on hand ... glad to hear there is definitely business and premium demand on this route so that it would last at least a year so I can take it to Asia! Any word on cargo on the route as well?



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7642 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7277 times:

I sure hope that the loads pick up. This routing is most certainly not a tourist one. At least if they can do well in F and J, then the route has chance for survival.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
Houston as an attractive tourist spot???

In my opinion Houston is a great place to live, but its not really tourist friendly. There really isnt good public transit and the tourist hot spots are few. My dad lives in Houston and loves it and I also like Houston, but for a tourist I think DFW (the night life is better in Dallas and western Culture in Fort Worth is so much fun), Austin (nightlife is awesome and the hill country is beautiful), or San Antonio (gotta love the riverwalk) would be better bets.

Houston is a city of business not a city of leisure (granted there are a few leisure spots around). This is the reason why Houston can support EK, QR, and SQ services. Houston is Texas's international city.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3967 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7244 times:

Glad to see that the First and Biz sections are doing better (I wonder what freight is doing?). I was cynical at first about this service at first, especially after the anemic loads that were reported after the first week. I am glad to see that I might have been wrong and I sincerely hope that I am dead wrong and SQ does well in Houston. I remain skeptical but increasingly hopeful that this service will succeed.

Maverick's tacky comments aside, I have to agree that Houston is a tough sell as a leisure destination (hell, I don't even think that the powers that be in Houston, see the city as a 'tourist destination") . Now if SQ can pull this off, and successfully sell H-Town as a 'hip" place to visit, then they are truly miracle workers.

Thomas

[Edited 2008-04-08 10:52:07]


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User currently offlineCMB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 414 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7142 times:



Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 16):
Houston is a tough sell as a leisure destination

I agree, but I don't think they are trying to sell Houston as a leisure destination. I think they're simply trying to make it more attractive for people going there on business, stating that there are certainly "leisurely and enjoyable" things to do while you are there on business. Simple as that.

I don't really believe ANYBODY is trying to sell Houston as a leisure destination, including like you said, the powers that be in the city. It's not possible, and I think we can all agree that Houston can not and will probably never become a "leisure destination". However, it's not a sleepy oil town with nothing to do. SQ would be stupid to not point out at least a couple of the many things to do in the area that would benefit the business travelers with some extra time on their hands.

Again, what does any of this have to do with Florida? Can we stay on topic? Houston is not Florida, California, or any other destination that rely's mainly on tourist traffic. We're a business city, with some fun things thrown in the mix to keep people busy.


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7096 times:



Quoting CMB320 (Reply 17):
I don't think they are trying to sell Houston as a leisure destination.

I'd like to point to:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 1):
but the airline hopes to counter this by selling Houston as an attractive tourist spot for leisure travellers.

as Exhibit A.

I don't really know if SQ is trying to sell Houston as a leisure destination (it seems that they are), but I have a difficult time believing that a Singapore resident would really pick Houston as a vacation destination.

It's hard enough to convince US residents that Houston is a vacation destination.

SQ should continue to focus on the (substantial) business market in Houston.


User currently offlineBWE320 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7096 times:



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 15):
but for a tourist I think DFW (the night life is better in Dallas and western Culture in Fort Worth is so much fun), Austin (nightlife is awesome and the hill country is beautiful), or San Antonio (gotta love the riverwalk) would be better bets.

So; Texas should be marketed as the whole state with Houston as a starting point. That could make a nice road trip followed by a stay at the sea side (South Padre Island or Mustang Island). If you are flying such a long distance you want to see probably more than only one city.


User currently offlinePhilhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7084 times:

Well keep in mind that the airline also has to sell Signapore and Moscow as destinations from Houston. To me, that doesn't seem all that far fetched.

I've lived here all of my life, and I appreciate the difficulty in selling the city. Most people that I entertain come here for business and then explore leisure outlets. If you are here already, it's not a hard city to find something to do. Space Center Houston is not in and of itself worth coming to Houston for, but definitely worth checking out if you are coming anyways.



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7642 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7072 times:



Quoting BWE320 (Reply 19):
So; Texas should be marketed as the whole state with Houston as a starting point. That could make a nice road trip followed by a stay at the sea side (South Padre Island or Mustang Island). If you are flying such a long distance you want to see probably more than only one city.

For out of country visitors, Dallas or Houston would have to be starting points because those are the only two cities that you can get to nonstop from overseas.

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
It's hard enough to convince US residents that Houston is a vacation destination.

Thats because it isnt. Its a wonderful town to settle down in and buy a house, but its not a great city for a tourist.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3967 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7072 times:



Quoting CMB320 (Reply 17):
Again, what does any of this have to do with Florida? Can we stay on topic? Houston is not Florida, California, or any other destination that rely's mainly on tourist traffic. We're a business city, with some fun things thrown in the mix to keep people busy.

Agreed, how and why FLA was thrown into the conversation eludes me.

This is my 15th year in Houston and have learned to love this city (stress...'learned') with all of it's blemishes. In that short time, I have seen a city that was already in a state of transition before I moved here, from a southern backwater to a global business hub. A city that has become the home to myriad of cultures and ethnicities, which really sets it apart from Dallas, Austin and San Antone. Houston may not be a 'world class' city it has become an 'international city'. Indeed the Houston area does have a lot to offer the biz traveler and his family (should they decide to bring them along) during their downtime.

Again, if SQ can successfully market the city as such, more power to 'em.

Thomas



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17544 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7066 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 14):
The only thing I can think of are the influx of international visitors at the Houston Galleria, as well as Katy Mills and the new Houston Premium Outlets out on 290.

True, but if you're coming from SIN, why would you fly way past DXB (or any other shopping mecca in Asia) to come to Houston. I don't think this flight has a lot going for it, particularly leisure traffic.



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User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6889 times:

There is plenty to do in Houston and the surrounding area.

1) CRUISES- The Norwegian Dream departs from Houston. Carnival's Ecstasy and Conquest as well as Royal Caribbean's Voyager of the Seas departs from Galveston.

2) CITY LIFE- World class museums (Menil, MFA, Contemporary Arts, Science, Children's., Holocaust, Bayou Bend, Rienzi, Twombly, etc...) dining/bars, parks (Hermann, Memorial, Discovery Green, Armand Bayou...) sports (nba, nfl, mlb, wnba, mls, ahl, college) and more...

3) EVENTS- 3 week rodeo. World's largest art car parade. Marathon. Cinco de Mayo. Only night time gay pride parade in the states. International Festival. NCAA hoops tourney. I-Fest.

4) QUIRKY- Beer Can House. Orange Show. Art Car Museum. Ice Houses. Ship Chanel. Lawndale Art Center. Forbidden Gardens replica. Museum of Funeral History.

5) Close Proximity (relative) to Galveston, New Orleans, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Corpus, South Padre Island, Mexican resorts, etc... Also can be a jumping off point for Big Bend National Park and the Deep South.


25 AznMadSci : I'm thinking it's the confusion between the Kennedy and Johnson Space Center. I don't think we're among the international powerhouse of leisure desti
26 MarcoPoloWorld : With no disrespect to neither Texas nor Florida, I agree with the implicit assumption that the preferred primary sites for a Singaporean to visit wou
27 Drerx7 : If this route survives then my guess is they carrying gold up front and in the belly.
28 Malaysia : SQ might can somebody for dilvulging SQ data
29 Post contains links STT757 : The Kennedy Space Center is in Florida, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Space_Center the Johnson Space Center is in Houston. http://en.wikipedia
30 ConcordeBoy : Easy fix... just tag the IAH downtime to MSY, instant full Y cabin. Sure there'll be an increase in airborne nudity and drunken arrests, but y'know, t
31 Speedbird2025 : Negative Jeff.. 9V-SWA was present on Sat night. --Nate
32 MaverickM11 : Full of....?
33 SeaBosDca : Move Houston to somewhere with better weather and you might have a shot of convincing me...
34 Drerx7 : Houston is a city that people come to for business or to visit friends/family...and then have a good time. I'm a native Houstonian and it a great city
35 Norcal773 : SQ sure is advertising Houston as a tourist spot. I flew them yesterday and the magazines onboard go on and on about what a great tourist spot Houston
36 BlueShamu330s : Oh, a politician in waiting Which, I believe, speaks volumes for how the loads actually are. Certain people not in anyway associated with or employed
37 Singapore_Air : Same can be said for your goading. MORE! MORE! Hear hear!
38 Ryanair!!! : The radio ads for SQ's flights to Houston have begun in feverish pitch here in Singapore. Only Business and Economy Class ia talked about and Houston
39 AznMadSci : Anyway we can get a preview?
40 Ryanair!!! : I am kinda technically-challenged when it comes to this. Hahahahaha... Let me see what can I do.
41 Coal : Ha! Sorry, but you know better than me that 90% of Singaporeans give Americans a run for their money in terms of never leaving their country! And thi
42 DocPepz : So many people in the office go to Malaysia or Thailand for the weekend. I wonder why though.... It's quite stressful going way for 3-4 days, where 2
43 ConcordeBoy : ...um, did ya finish the rest of that post cher?
44 Aviasian : Wow . . . you did talk to enough people to cheerfully say that 90% of Singaporeans don't travel . . . just because they don't go to Malaysia, Thailan
45 Post contains links St530 : I dug up this article from the Jakarta Post, which seems to be part of SQ's efforts to market Houston as a tourist spot: http://www.thejakartapost.com
46 MarcoPoloWorld : That says it all, doesn't it? And as far as "fourth largest city" goes, we we all know that city boundaries in the US do not reflect functional bound
47 Drerx7 : In terms of air service correct...but it has significance in the non-aviation world of course.
48 Chugach : That's the best post about Houston on this thread. Just because some cities don't break their backs catering to the tourist crowd doesn't mean they a
49 Pylon101 : Judging from the opinions MOW seems to be of no interest for Southerners and Singaporeans...It's okay. I guess from October to April Y class is suppos
50 Justloveplanes : I am a Houstonian too. It is a great place and it helps if you have someone show you around. What makes Houston so nice is the variety and the deep an
51 Globetraveller : I think that it will be very difficult for SQ to sell many Y tickets from SIN all the way to IAH. People on business will use J and F and it is unlike
52 Post contains images Super80DFW : Well, since we are discussing how Houston is a leisure market, lets name some things it is famous for: Oil (Pollution), Space Center (No launches), an
53 Drerx7 : I lost...I had a pool going as to how long it would take before Dallas showed up and 'represented'
54 Thomasphoto60 : Kiddo, I've lived in Dallas, and well,, as the old saying goes, "those that live in glass houses........." I took 52 posts, for a thread that was rec
55 Super80DFW : If you really think about it, Arlington really makes the Metroplex fun!
56 LAXdude1023 : As someone who lives elsewhere, but spends tons of time in both cities: Houston is: More international More laid back More high yeilding business tra
57 MaverickM11 : What would an MSY tag fill a SQ 77W going the long way 'round the world to Asia with, paloma ?
58 Triley1057 : First and Business seem to be sold out during the first part of May between IAH and DME. I am sure that there is quite a bit of cargo being flown on t
59 JayDavis : Hey Thomasphoto60, You know Houston sucks compared to to Dallas. We have The Dallas Cowboys, 5 time National Football League Champions, The Dallas Sta
60 Post contains images Kanebear : As if I couldn't just post the information from Sabre or Amadeus? Not perfect but pretty reliable as indicators go. Oh come now. There're FAR worse p
61 Analog : Beaches? I live within walking distance of the nearest beach (it is GLS, isn't it); in over a year I have not even touched the water. Yuck. As far as
62 Da man : Don't forget the Comets and the Dynamo. While I personally don't like those sports, they are quite successful...
63 LAXdude1023 : Actually Dallas and Houston are about on the same level as far as shopping goes. I wouldnt say Houston is better or worse than Dallas in that realm.
64 Saigonhouston : Screw you two and water high & above your head. You always have a negative comment about Houston. This thread is not Dallas vs. Houston. This is all
65 WesternA318 : Hey, I just moved to Houston, and have found a junkload of stuff to do and places to see. It is not that bad.
66 Lexy : I could name off a large list of things to do in Houston. NASA just off the top and Galveston, TX would be next.
67 WesternA318 : Not to mention the Meridian or Verizon center when a good band is in town, or the Rocbar or Hard Rock for other days.
68 Thomasphoto60 : Don't sweat too much what Jay has to say. He and I like to joke around, especially when it comes to Dallas v Houston, in particular when the subject
69 JayDavis : Thanks Thomasphoto60, for straightening the other poster out. Yep, you knew it was just good-natured ribbing. I actually like coming down to IAH (Shoc
70 Coal : Small sample size But seriously, when my Singaporean colleagues are surprised that I travel so much in SEA and I asked them why they don't, the answe
71 MaverickM11 : ....would you fly 25 hours to either of those? Most I know would barely drive the half hour it takes to get to either location. Same sh!t different c
72 Airbazar : No offense but I find Florida to be a dump. I won't travel 3 hours to do a vacation there save for some very few beach destinations, let alone 25 hou
73 Post contains links 102IAHexpress : The high temp. will be 72f today. With relative humidity at 56%. So much for that swampy muggy weather year round nonsense. We had another beautiful w
74 MaverickM11 : I agree...lived there for seven years and when I graduated I left the state and thought "NEVER again in the South". Well never say never, cuz you mig
75 Post contains images Kanebear : You forgot the Shops at Willow Bend up near Plano... my point with regards to Houston is that just about everything you can find between those three
76 TN757Flyer : I can't imagine SQ would have just opened up IAH unless they thought there was sufficient business traffic to justify the route. The thing just start
77 LAXdude1023 : I love both cities. My one and only complaint about Houston is the lack of a really good night life. My only complaint about Dallas its too formal. F
78 CMB320 : No nightlife? You have to be kidding. We need to spend some time together. I just spent Saturday night and last night out until 6 in the morning jump
79 LAXdude1023 : Houstons nightlife is very spotty. Dallas has clubs that are right next to one another. Even most of my friends from Houston think that Dalas and Aus
80 CMB320 : So does Houston. I went to 3 different clubs and 2 bars all in the same area last night in Houston. Oh God, I can't believe I just contributed to thi
81 TN757Flyer : Thank you. I lived in Dallas for 17 years and for every one of those years it was a continual pissing contest about which city was better. And for th
82 Yellowtail : Back to the topic.... I see lots of advertising around Houston now. On my extended pass through IAH yesterday (thanks to CO cancelling my flight) I no
83 Thomasphoto60 : Such insightful comments. Care to enlighten us, the great unwashed masses, as to the Utopia in which you reside? Thomas
84 MaverickM11 : Houston.
85 Blr2Syr : Do u work for them ???
86 Toxtethogrady : Hate to break it to you, but Dallas is only known overseas as the place where Kennedy got shot. About all the tourists from across the Pond come to s
87 Toxtethogrady : I would argue the point about the arts scene. Houston has the Ballet, the Grand Opera and the Symphony. Dallas has a sculpture garden and Fort Worth'
88 Toxtethogrady : I suppose I should also admit to being absolutely flabbergasted that Singapore Airlines is attempting to do something that the Greater Houston Partner
89 AznMadSci : Yes, I agree with you here. They can't even come up with a catchy slogan for this city. Back to the topic on hand ... with all this talk about DL/NW
90 Yellowtail : My brother was on the IAH-DME segment 10 days or so ago....says the premium cabins were pretty full but that Y was empty...said it looked like a lot o
91 LAXdude1023 : This is what I keep hearing over and over. If CO could join Star Alliance or codeshare with SQ, that would sure help. Dallas has all of those things
92 JayDavis : Uh, I don't really think there is a "place" where JR got shot. That was make-believe. Another thing that Dallas is famous for is this little professi
93 Post contains images Thomasphoto60 : For the time being perhaps, but don't get too cocky there ,Big J, IAH is catching up and fast. Remember we now have CI, KE (early Sat AM, under the c
94 JayDavis : I know, I was just ribbing you Thomas. I'm really not that much of a Cowboys fan. I'm more of a college sports fan. Go Texas Tech Red Raiders !!!! I a
95 MarcoPoloWorld : Well said! I myself enjoyed my time as a student in Florida, but once finished, I was glad to get out of there. The people are nice, but gosh are you
96 Toxtethogrady : I always thought it should have been "The Big Enchilada". In recognition of its size and diversity...
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Should CO Move HQ To IAH? Why Downtown? posted Tue Nov 27 2007 15:48:35 by AirRyan
SQ 380 Schedule To LHR posted Sun Nov 25 2007 15:40:21 by Amciver
Korean Air To IAH? posted Sun Dec 23 2007 02:40:08 by Pbb152
Should CO Move HQ To IAH? Why Downtown? posted Tue Nov 27 2007 15:48:35 by AirRyan
SQ 380 Schedule To LHR posted Sun Nov 25 2007 15:40:21 by Amciver